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Can I Use OC Genie II on Stock Fan, Non-k Processor? (MSI Z77A-G45)

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October 12, 2013 7:26:02 PM

Hi people!

So I just ordered a new motherboard and its the MSI Z77A-G45. This board has the OC Genie II and I wanted to know if I could overclock my CPU with it since it does everything automatically for you with the press of a button. Now, my processor is an i7-3770 (non-k) @3.4GHz. I was hoping maybe the OC Genie II would maybe go to 3.8-3.9GHz but I have the stock fan that came with the processor. Will this work? Do you guys think the OC Genie II program will recognize the temp and calculate everything out? Any help on this matter would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Alex

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October 12, 2013 8:42:29 PM

You can use OC Genie to overclock the CPU. The CPU is the non K version though so it wont overclock to extreme measures but it should go just past turbo. The stock fan does an okay job and depending on the amount of fans in the case you might need to keep it at 3.6 or 3.7 until you get a better cooler.
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October 12, 2013 9:06:33 PM

Nitro192 said:
You can use OC Genie to overclock the CPU. The CPU is the non K version though so it wont overclock to extreme measures but it should go just past turbo. The stock fan does an okay job and depending on the amount of fans in the case you might need to keep it at 3.6 or 3.7 until you get a better cooler.


Okay thanks. What temperatures should I be looking for as an average overclock? I honestly don't know how cool the fan is at this point honestly
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October 12, 2013 9:46:01 PM

You generally want the CPU to stay at or around 60'C. Don't let it settle anywhere over 62.
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October 13, 2013 7:41:10 AM

Nitro192 said:
You generally want the CPU to stay at or around 60'C. Don't let it settle anywhere over 62.


So saying I overclock with OC Geneie II,, and under load playing, say battlefield 4, I should be around 60C?
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October 13, 2013 10:49:41 AM

In theory yes it should stay safely around 60 but all boards and chips are different, you'd have to check your temps during to see how yours responds.
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October 13, 2013 11:00:09 AM

Nitro192 said:
You generally want the CPU to stay at or around 60'C. Don't let it settle anywhere over 62.


I'd disagree with this.

The CPU is 100% fine until 100c, but I generally set a temp limit around 80c.

Yeah, your CPU is locked to its multiplier, but you may be able to get a few mhz out of it.

I wouldn't recommend overclocking your CPU though, the extra bonus isn't really worth it.

Also, you have the stock fan: so temps on stock are fine, but overclocking may push it over, so as I said before: wouldn't recommend overclocking.

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October 13, 2013 12:46:10 PM

Thanks for all the help everyone. Gladly appreciate all of it
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October 13, 2013 12:47:36 PM

PCDave said:
Nitro192 said:
You generally want the CPU to stay at or around 60'C. Don't let it settle anywhere over 62.


I'd disagree with this.

The CPU is 100% fine until 100c, but I generally set a temp limit around 80c.

Yeah, your CPU is locked to its multiplier, but you may be able to get a few mhz out of it.

I wouldn't recommend overclocking your CPU though, the extra bonus isn't really worth it.

Also, you have the stock fan: so temps on stock are fine, but overclocking may push it over, so as I said before: wouldn't recommend overclocking.

Dave


I disagree with you. My Phenom II computer crashed a 85 degrees under load
I would say dont go over 70 degrees
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October 13, 2013 1:01:07 PM

PCDave said:

I'd disagree with this.

The CPU is 100% fine until 100c, but I generally set a temp limit around 80c.

Yeah, your CPU is locked to its multiplier, but you may be able to get a few mhz out of it.

I wouldn't recommend overclocking your CPU though, the extra bonus isn't really worth it.

Also, you have the stock fan: so temps on stock are fine, but overclocking may push it over, so as I said before: wouldn't recommend overclocking.

Dave


You say 100c is fine, but you set the limit to 80c. You don't recommend OC'ing the CPU.

I find that to be a bit contradicting... If you think 100c is fine, then why do you not recommend OC'ing if you believe that 100c is fine?

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My recommendation is do not overclock with a stock heatsink. I generally prefer to keep my CPU temps below 60c. I shoot for at most 50c, but that's just me. I think "non k" model Ivy Bridge CPUs can be overclocked by 400MHz. You can try to see how high the temps go with the stock heatsink, just run a program called Prime95 and monitor temps with Core Temp.

http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=205
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Overclock at your own risk. If the temps are too high for your liking then either stop OC'ing or install a relative inexpensive heatsink like the Hyper T4

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-R...
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October 13, 2013 2:32:19 PM

jaguarskx said:
PCDave said:

I'd disagree with this.

The CPU is 100% fine until 100c, but I generally set a temp limit around 80c.

Yeah, your CPU is locked to its multiplier, but you may be able to get a few mhz out of it.

I wouldn't recommend overclocking your CPU though, the extra bonus isn't really worth it.

Also, you have the stock fan: so temps on stock are fine, but overclocking may push it over, so as I said before: wouldn't recommend overclocking.

Dave


You say 100c is fine, but you set the limit to 80c. You don't recommend OC'ing the CPU.

I find that to be a bit contradicting... If you think 100c is fine, then why do you not recommend OC'ing if you believe that 100c is fine?

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My recommendation is do not overclock with a stock heatsink. I generally prefer to keep my CPU temps below 60c. I shoot for at most 50c, but that's just me. I think "non k" model Ivy Bridge CPUs can be overclocked by 400MHz. You can try to see how high the temps go with the stock heatsink, just run a program called Prime95 and monitor temps with Core Temp.

http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=205
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Overclock at your own risk. If the temps are too high for your liking then either stop OC'ing or install a relative inexpensive heatsink like the Hyper T4

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Contact-Heatpipes-R...


Not this..
I don't recommend OC'ing the CPU with an LOCKED multipler, as you won't get anywhere.

100c is fine, its the maximum thermal threshold as set by Intel for his CPU (AMD is a different story, at poster above)
I personally prefer somewhere around 80c on max load, but even 90c is fine if the overclocking is extreme.

As I stated before: he can try overclocking, but I wouldn't recommend it it with his current set up.

Remember: I'm talking about LOAD temps.

My 3570k runs at 4.0ghz and is around 75c on heavy load, and 30c on idle.

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October 13, 2013 3:13:57 PM

I'm gonna have to agree with everyone else here. 100'C is not a safe temp at all and if you think it is you have a lot to learn about processors my friend.

There's a few ppl here who have fried their chip playing in the 90s. The recommended is 60s if you want the CPU to last as long as possible.


Also ur 3570k running at 75? my 3570k is at 4.4ghz and tops out at 45 during gaming on air. That's oddly warm and overclocking can make a significant difference. Overclocking an i5 can actually get you an average 10fps jump from stock.
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October 13, 2013 4:19:44 PM

Nitro192 said:
I'm gonna have to agree with everyone else here. 100'C is not a safe temp at all and if you think it is you have a lot to learn about processors my friend.

There's a few ppl here who have fried their chip playing in the 90s. The recommended is 60s if you want the CPU to last as long as possible.


Also ur 3570k running at 75? my 3570k is at 4.4ghz and tops out at 45 during gaming on air. That's oddly warm and overclocking can make a significant difference. Overclocking an i5 can actually get you an average 10fps jump from stock.


105c* is the MAXIMUM temp set by Intel as per intel spec, its called the TJMAX.
I never said it was safe, but the CPU can handle that for some period of time.

Source: http://cdn.overclock.net/c/c4/599x277px-c4e44dc5_5-17-2...

Frying their chips in the 90s is obviously an temperature monitor issue than, as around the high 90s mark, the CPU automatically slows down to prevent thermal degradation.

And yeah; My 3570k is running at 75c on prime 95.
I'd like to see your temps, unless you delid your CPU, those temps are amazing.
(and what game?)

and sure: overclocking will boost performance in mostly CPU bound games, however may not do anything for GPU bound games.

The choice is yours, OP.
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