650 dollar gaming pc

sagat231 · Oct 13, 2013

Is this good for gaming and compatible?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1JS6O

I looked into it and it says bad things on the storage and power supply. It worries me since the power supply runs the computer...I'm not really knowledgeable about this things. So if I can get some feedback on this.

P.S: If you decide to change some parts to a more reliable one feel free to do so. Just know that I won't overclock and price range is $650.Also I live in U.S.A cali if that helps.

filippi · Oct 13, 2013

You could try this one:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1O7zI
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1O7zI/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1O7zI/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.97 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($62.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec One ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $669.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-13 01:25 EDT-0400)

sagat231 · Oct 13, 2013

Uhm...i still find that the storage and power supply has some problems. Are they suppose to be
Like that with the storage and power supply?

filippi · Oct 13, 2013

Western Digital is a excelent brand. EVGA is good but you could go Antec, SeaSonic, Corsair. For example, I have one like that:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

sagat231 · Oct 13, 2013

Oh ok. Thank you very much. I think I'll go with your build switching the power supply to corsair.
One more thing, is this monitor compatible and good?http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008DWITHI/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?ref_=dp_ob_title_ce

MrJak · Oct 13, 2013

filippi :

sagat231 :

It is important to note that the price of this build goes over the set budget of $650, especially before rebate, at $720.88.

Also, that monitor would probably be fine, though I am by no means an expert at them, but I think, unless you need to keep it at that size, that a slightly larger monitor would suit you better for gaming.

Also, I believe a 7870 would give you a better bang for buck, especially if you won't be overclocking.
Specifically this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127722
Which would make it: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Ok7p $679.89, and $626.88 after rebates.
Though, I notice a lack of an operating System?

sagat231 · Oct 13, 2013

Would that give better performance? Also the $720.88 becomes $650 after rebates so its good.

MrJak · Oct 13, 2013

sagat231 :

It's only slightly less, so it's hardly worth mentioning, so it should really only show in resolutions over 1080p, but the cost is decently less.
The 7950 is roughly 9-20% faster (at best) for 17% more of a price tag, so that's up to you.
Yes, but the rebates can take some time, and some vendors aren't very good with them.
Also, do know that you will need to assemble these parts after you order them.

sagat231 · Oct 13, 2013

I see and yes It's actually going to be my first build so ya. About the rebates how long do they usually take?

MrJak · Oct 13, 2013

sagat231 :

They can take between two weeks and a month or two, I think.
If they're bad about it, it can take a few months.

Also, if you're not in a rush, I can get a nicely customized PC part list for you, with specs that will meet your exact needs. Because if it's only for gaming, you can definitely do well with an AMD processor.

We can also plan for future upgrades now, so you can save money later.
such as getting you a MoBo that can SLI.

sagat231 · Oct 13, 2013

Well, I also plan to use it for photo editing, watching movies, surfing web,and maybe school stuff.

MrJak · Oct 13, 2013

sagat231 :

Okay, AMD can do all of that -- what kind of photo editing will you be doing?
Also, would you plan on possibly recording your gaming sessions?

sagat231 · Oct 13, 2013

Nope just casually playing games. As tje photo editing it will probably be some basic kinds using gimp.
P.S: Games i'll probably be playing are planetside 2 and bf4

MrJak · Oct 13, 2013

sagat231 :

Okay, sounds like an all AMD computer should be better for you, as you'll be able to more effective use your money, as I doubt you'll gain much from getting Nvidia's Physx? (Though, if you want that, it may be able to be added in fairly cheaply.)

Now, on to an important question, do you want your PC to favor being cool, or quiet? (and would you be comfortable using a a closed loop water cooler for your CPU, as that may be able to do both.)

And you should, of course, choose your own case, and after we choose a board for you, then we can go on to that.

sagat231 · Oct 14, 2013

Whats a Nividia's Physx?
I would like it to be cool but not that loud either. I have never used a water cooler so I'm not comfortable to using one.

As for the case the antec one filippi suggested looks nice, though I prefer it to be white. Anyhow should I add in an extra 20 for this version? Or should I just use that 20 for better parts?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129180

If possible would this case be able to fit in budget?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010

MrJak · Oct 14, 2013

sagat231 :

http://youtu.be/EWFkDrKvBRU
http://youtu.be/9_UNRp7Wrog
http://youtu.be/m1sI8ovRIFY -- physx

It's not in many games, but it's pretty neat.

Also, I was thinking you should might get a bigger case, [strike]so we can fit a better board, such as this one:[/strike] That'll do, but I think you could get better.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131872 (It has room for two GPUs so you may be able to do crossfire (CFX) or throw in a Nvidia gpu for physx

MrJak · Oct 14, 2013

Okay, so I have two builds for you to check out: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1OKeG at $747.90, $649.89 after MiR
and the better performance solution: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1OKkM $824.91, $721.90 after MiR -- if you can stretch it, then this would probably be the best option, but mostly for its performance in Battlefield 4, otherwise it may a bit overkill.
http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-beta-gpu-cpu-benchmarks/

Both should be GREAT builds for you.

And they will be easily upgradable in the future, and the more expensive of the two should be relatively future proof, as AMD is good about keeping it's sockets, and if you ever decide to overclock later, this should do decently.
It'll also let you run more stuff while you game, so you won't have to worry about that as much.

feel free to change parts, such as the case or GPU. The 7950 is a great price, especially with one extra game over the 7850, but if you want to save money, then the 7850 is better price for performance, especially if you'd like to either try to throw in physx or put the money somewhere else, as you will need an operating system for this computer.

sagat231 · Oct 14, 2013

The video card seem to have bad reviews as well as the motherboard. Is it still reliable?
Also, is this faster and better for longevity than the one filippi suggested?

MrJak · Oct 15, 2013

sagat231 :

It's definitely much better for longevity than that one, as this gives you an SLI slot, so you can either add physx, or double up your GPU power down the road for cheaper than buying a newer graphics card -- you'll just have to buy another 7950 when you want more performance. If you ever need to upgrade CPUs, this will board being AM3+, will more than likely accommodate the next CPUs that AMD releases. Also, games are going to start taking advantage of more cores in the future, so multi cores, like the ones I picked -- 6 and 8 may end up helping more later, and are cheaper than Intel quad cores. Also, besides games, more cores makes artwork and image editing faster. (Forogt to mention earlier, MMOs, such as PlanetSide 2 should make use of extra cores)

Well, you might want to get a different version of the video card -- I suspect it's only good enough to keep it cool.

But, I feel confident that the board is good: there are more good reviews than bad, and I believe Asus is good about fixing problems. It also matches the RAM I chose for you.

But feel free to find your own board, just be sure to get one that has at least 2x PCI-Ex16 slots, and is AM3+ as I believe SLI would be very beneficial to you.

Here's an updated version, peices dropped on a better version of the 7950: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1PalD unfortunately this makes you no longer eligable for a combo discount, bringing th price up a bit. (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1PaIY for the 8350)
(You'll want to probably recheck all of the prices on the day you go to buy, to make sure you get the best deal)

Also, again, if you want to, you can choose a different case that costs less, such as these: http://bit.ly/WnexEx http://bit.ly/gkOJTc
Just be sure that they fit ATX and/ or Micro ATX and have at least seven (7) expansion slots.

Then you can put the money into other parts, but I think it's important to get a case that you like with a motherboard that you like, as these are more permanent than other parts, especially the case.

MrJak · Oct 15, 2013

Also, to give you a small idea of CPU performance:

Intel Core i5-4430: http://bit.ly/1eoZrpy 6,304 points for $190 33.18 points per dollar
AMD FX-6300: http://bit.ly/1cSMWF2 6,397 points for $110 58.15 points per dollar
AMD FX-8350: http://bit.ly/19MOGMX 9,086 points for $185 49.11 points per dollar
Intel Core i7-4770K: http://bit.ly/18jeXSG 10,102 points $328 30.80 points per dollar

sagat231 · Oct 16, 2013

Ok, Thank you very much!!

Now I just need my parents to get me these things. Thanks again. Wish I could change the best solution to pick yours. Thanks for the great help and clarification.

MrJak · Oct 16, 2013

sagat231 :

It's my pleasure

Though I'd like to know which one you pick, and how it works out for you.

MrJak · Nov 10, 2013

Also just wanted to add that I learned that Battlefield 4 should be getting an update to take better advantage of multiple cores, which should make the AMD systems even better against the intel's i5 than it already was.

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