Feedback on possible High-End Gaming build

xXCallMeGreenyXx

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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-PRO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($644.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($47.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($94.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2009.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-14 02:24 EDT-0400)

Also Win8 users get a free upgrade to 8.1 right?
 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($135.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.46 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($644.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($55.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Vengeance C70 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1773.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-14 02:37 EDT-0400)

For numerous reasons this build is way better, pm me if you want to know why they are better. I will see it in the morning and answer you then. Also yes Windows 8 users get free upgrade to 8.1 but I think it's a limited offer.

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Yes, they get a free upgrade. There are a lot of things with that build that I wouldn't go with.

1) There's absolutely no need to go with an i7. All you gain is a tiny bit of L3 cashe and hyperthreading, neither of which affect gaming, and neither of which are likely to in the future.

2) Don't go with a prebuilt liquid cooler. Unless you're doing a small form factor build, there's no reason. Go with a good air cooler, which will be quieter, have just as good performance, and will be easier to clean.

3)Don't go with 1x8GB of ram, go with 2x4GB so you can run in dual channel.

4) First, where's your SSD. Seriously, with a budget like this, you need at least a 128GB ssd to put windows and programs on. Remember that data and games (aside from games you want loading screens to go away in like MMOs or Skyrim) don't gain a benefit from being on an SSD, but having windows and programs on there will make everything much snappier. I would also go with a 2 or 3 GB Western Digital Caviar Blue - Toshiba drives aren't amazing, and you likely really won't need 3TB of storage.

5) Drop the sound card. Seriously, there is absolutely NO point for it and you won't get better sound unless you're using headphones that are high impedance and can't be run from your motherboard audio. If that were the case, you'd want a way higher quality sound card and would know what to be looking for, anyways.

6) That's actually a pretty good looking case, and is well built. Nice pick.

7) While XFX is good, for that much money, I would go seasonic. Get the X-650 if you don't have plans for SLI in the future, or the X-850 if you do. They're some of the best made power supplies out there... as in, they rendered Jonny guru almost speechless.

6) Bad pick on the monitor. 144Hz is a gimmick over 120Hz, and those screens are only mediocre on color quality. I highly, HIGHLY suggest a BenQ 120Hz monitor. It's slightly more expensive, but the color quality will be way, way better; they're just about the best TN panels out there.
 

xXCallMeGreenyXx

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Thanks for the feedback first of all,
1. I forgot to mention I will be doing Video Editing and 3D Modelling, so I know why I chose the i7
2. Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo?
3. I will most likely either get 2x8GB RAM to start off with or get another stick as an upgrade.
4. SSD, once again, I forgot. I know there's a Samsung 256GB for something like ~$175
5. Sound Card, thanks for letting me know.
6. Thanks, seen some good reviews on the case.
7. I plan to go 780 SLI so 850w is good for me, I will check out the Seasonic X-850.
6. I think you mean '8' but oh well
Would you be talking about the XL2420T(E)?
 
Aright, that's fine, that changes both the i7 and the RAM.

The EVO is a good option, but you could also consider heavy hitters if you're interested in heavy overclocking.

As for the SSDs, you don't need 256GB unless you're dual booting. Remember that all data and all games except for those you want the loading screens to go away in (i.e. MMOs or single player games like Skyrim) don't get any benefit from being installed on your SSD.

For the sound card, no worries. I made that mistake a few years ago after asking for a Xonar DX for my birthday, and realizing that it gave me absolutely no benefit. My stereo system is hooked up by optical out on the motherboard, which skips any internal DAC and uses the DAC on the receiver, and my headphones weren't good enough quality to make a difference. I've since rectified that, and now love my sound card, but it was very disappointing at first.

Yeah, I'm actually a big fan of those handles - I buy them by themselves to add as mods to cases, since I do small form factor builds, but I've never seen them already built into a case before.

Ahh, in that case 850w is just about the sweet spot, and I do highly recommend the X- series. They provide the cleanest, most reliable power I've ever seen.

You think I mean 8? 8 what? I'm confused.

I own the XL2420T, and freaking love it, but BenQ has a new model now, the XL2720T. (It's not a 27in monitor like the naming would have you believe, oddly enough.)
 

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Thanks for all the information!
In your first reply, you went 6, 7, 6 instead of 6, 7, 8 xD

6) That's actually a pretty good looking case, and is well built. Nice pick.

7) While XFX is good, for that much money, I would go seasonic. Get the X-650 if you don't have plans for SLI in the future, or the X-850 if you do. They're some of the best made power supplies out there... as in, they rendered Jonny guru almost speechless.

6) Bad pick on the monitor. 144Hz is a gimmick over 120Hz, and those screens are only mediocre on color quality. I highly, HIGHLY suggest a BenQ 120Hz monitor. It's slightly more expensive, but the color quality will be way, way better; they're just about the best TN panels out there.

But anyway, apparently the XL2420TE is a bit better plus cheaper (by like $10), so I'll figure why not. And I'll check out the XL2720T as well :)
 

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