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October 14, 2013 10:23:32 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: about 3-4 weeks from now

Budget Range: 500-650 (tax + shipping included)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, and basic use

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: CPU, gpu, mobo, ram, hard drive, cd drive, case, power supply

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Canadian online sites ( tigerdirect, bestdirect / ncix / newegg.ca / amazon.(ca)or (com) )
and all other sites I may have missed.

Location: Canada

Parts Preferences: doesn't really matter

Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 ( already have that )

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: New pc

More about : budget 500 650

October 14, 2013 1:09:38 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($100.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($212.05 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.00 @ Vuugo)
Total: $626.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-14 16:07 EDT-0400)

This is what I cam up with. I'm less knowledgable on the AMD side of things but I figured this would hold up pretty well on what you're looking to do. Hopefully this can give you an idea.
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October 14, 2013 1:21:20 PM

TNoDz_ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($100.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($212.05 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.00 @ Vuugo)
Total: $626.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-14 16:07 EDT-0400)

This is what I cam up with. I'm less knowledgable on the AMD side of things but I figured this would hold up pretty well on what you're looking to do. Hopefully this can give you an idea.


Id say you did pretty well ( i didnt look at the mobo) but I love the Phenom cpus
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October 14, 2013 2:06:27 PM

I would of gone for the FX series but they were a little bit pricey compared to phenom and I'm pretty sure the phenom holds its own pretty well against the FX chip series.
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October 14, 2013 2:15:19 PM

TNoDz_ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 EXTREME4 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($100.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($51.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB Video Card ($212.05 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.00 @ Vuugo)
Total: $626.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-14 16:07 EDT-0400)

This is what I cam up with. I'm less knowledgable on the AMD side of things but I figured this would hold up pretty well on what you're looking to do. Hopefully this can give you an idea.


thanks! do you think I should get a newer cpu such as the AMD FX-6300
and shouldn't I get 2x4GB 1600mhz memory sticks?
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October 14, 2013 2:20:36 PM

To be honest, the Phenom series has powered many budget gaming PCs. Yes the FX-6300 has two extra cores and improved power consumption but the Phenom chip I suggested is only .1ghz less powerfull than the FX-6300.

In the end, games rely much more on the GPU than the CPU. Reinvest that 30$ into a future SSD drive you could add to your build.

And yes, get the Corsair CMX8GX3M2A1600C9 at 55.99 off amazon. I forgot to check the mhz on the RAM I put.
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October 14, 2013 3:38:55 PM

thinking of just getting the A8-5600k for 99$ since I cannot find the 965 anywhere online

What mobo should I get with the A8-5600k
preferably between 60-80$
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October 14, 2013 3:56:04 PM

I came up with this

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1OR3O
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1OR3O/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1OR3O/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.99 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.44 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.75 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $638.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-14 18:54 EDT-0400)
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October 15, 2013 5:54:52 AM

mario296 said:
thinking of just getting the A8-5600k for 99$ since I cannot find the 965 anywhere online

What mobo should I get with the A8-5600k
preferably between 60-80$


I am at work so I cannot find the link but the did a test on the FX-6100 series versus an AMD Phenom IIx4 BE edition. and they were pretty much on par (except for the small fact that the Phenom has about 3-4 years of age on the FX)

This is my personal opinion if you are giong to game do not get an APU, yeah it will work but you will hate yourself in the long run. Trust me I know, I built a budget game rig for about $380 running on an FM1 mobo and A6-5600k I think, and it worked but as soon as I wanted to upgrade I found my options limited.

Get an AM3+ mobo and the a cheap (true) dual core cpu it will run games fine. Too many people try to get the latest and greatest and it is not needed. Follow benchmarks but I have built systems that were supposed to bottleneck the gpu and have been fine. Its called overclocking. :D 
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October 15, 2013 7:36:39 AM

chosen12k6 said:
mario296 said:
thinking of just getting the A8-5600k for 99$ since I cannot find the 965 anywhere online

What mobo should I get with the A8-5600k
preferably between 60-80$


I am at work so I cannot find the link but the did a test on the FX-6100 series versus an AMD Phenom IIx4 BE edition. and they were pretty much on par (except for the small fact that the Phenom has about 3-4 years of age on the FX)

This is my personal opinion if you are giong to game do not get an APU, yeah it will work but you will hate yourself in the long run. Trust me I know, I built a budget game rig for about $380 running on an FM1 mobo and A6-5600k I think, and it worked but as soon as I wanted to upgrade I found my options limited.

Get an AM3+ mobo and the a cheap (true) dual core cpu it will run games fine. Too many people try to get the latest and greatest and it is not needed. Follow benchmarks but I have built systems that were supposed to bottleneck the gpu and have been fine. Its called overclocking. :D 


I completly agree with chosen here. Although budget gaming rigs leave you short of breath when it comes to the parts you can buy, you're ultimate goal is to build something sound that you'll be able to expand whenever you feel necessary. Right now you have a max of 650$ but over time you'll want to invest into you rig in order to keep it running at optimal speeds.

Although the term futureproofing is very taboo in this industry, the real future proof is building a rig wherein you can expand without many limitations.

I have a rig that I bought at best buy for around 500$ back in 2007. Although it's processor and many of the components are outdated by far for today's standards. I've been able, however, to upgrade my rig over time with a new psu and gpu and ram and HDD so I can stay relative to this generation of game.

I'm not saying don't go for the FX-6300. By all means go ahead. It's a very sound CPU but I would personally say that you get more bang for you buck with the phenom.
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October 15, 2013 8:38:33 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 PRO3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($72.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($58.61 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.96 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-03 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $641.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-15 11:35 EDT-0400)

this is a solid gaming machine that will play anything out now at high/ultra settings
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October 15, 2013 1:46:51 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 PRO3 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($72.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Predator Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($58.61 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.96 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-03 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $641.03
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-15 11:35 EDT-0400)

this is a solid gaming machine that will play anything out now at high/ultra settings


need canadian links :S
Isn't 430W not enough for the build tho ?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Pd32
this is what I have in mind so far
what do you guys think ?
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October 15, 2013 2:19:49 PM

Go with this GPU: Asus R7 260X-DC2OC-2GD5 which sells at 161.27$ on newegg.ca

Its the next gen Hawaii AMD GPUS and have some extra perks that the older 7870's don't have.

The rest of your build is solid as a rock and you will enjoy this computer very much.
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October 15, 2013 2:29:39 PM

TNoDz_ said:
Go with this GPU: Asus R7 260X-DC2OC-2GD5 which sells at 161.27$ on newegg.ca

Its the next gen Hawaii AMD GPUS and have some extra perks that the older 7870's don't have.

The rest of your build is solid as a rock and you will enjoy this computer very much.


Note that although newer, the R7 260X is basically a 7790 which doesn't perform as good as a 7870, the Hawaii equivalent of the 7870 is the R7 270X

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October 15, 2013 2:49:28 PM

Just ordered. Thank you all for your help!

Can someone tell me how mail-in-rebate works by any chance?
I'm going to have to do it for 3 parts
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October 15, 2013 5:46:11 PM

mario296 said:
Just ordered. Thank you all for your help!

Can someone tell me how mail-in-rebate works by any chance?
I'm going to have to do it for 3 parts


Google my friend! ;) 
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