RobCrezz writes:
> I agree, you can really get some bargains if you buy used.
Yup! One just has to be careful and sensible. With eBay, the old saying, if it
looks too good to be true then it probably is, should be borne in mind. I have
a set of personal rules I follow and they've served me well, eg. for mbds
I only bid if, a) the auction is listed as, "Returns accepted"; b) the CPU socket
protection cover is included and fitted on the CPU socket; c) the seller has
provided a close-up picture of the CPU socket pins (for Intel boards); d) the
seller's feedback is good, they have a sensible summary, and so on.
Recently I've been particularly fortunate with obtaining used 3GB GTX 580s,
2700Ks and SSDs.
> You get good protection with ebay on defective products (assuming you
> read the auction and returns policy correctly).
Very true, eBay's current policies are biased towards the buyer; since I only
use eBay to
buy items, that's fine by me.
For the novice bidder, I'd say
the wise approach is at first to only ever bid on listings that are marked with,
"Returns accepted". Also, I usually ask for model/part number confirmation
on any CPU, GPU, disk or SSD (if said info isn't already clearly visible in the pics).
Sometimes I'll ask any old question, just to gain some insight into the nature of
the seller, see if they give out a good vibe.
CaptainTom, please check my
feedback and hence the item links to see the
kind of items I've bought, winning amounts, etc., you'll see what I mean.
And here's the 2700K system I mentioned (using it to type this post):
http://valid.canardpc.com/0sftm2
The 2700K was only 150 UKP, M4E was 130, Ven-X was 25, 840 Pro 128GB
was 85, Antec 300 was 25, "unused/sealed" 850W PSU was 50, Hitachi 2TB
Enterprise SATA was 85, Quadro 4000 was 205. Beat that!
(for gaming
GPUs, two 3GB 580s was about 270 total, faster than a 780, though of course
they're louder) I might add that with the Quadro fitted, the system is almost silent.
Note that I help to keep things running as smoothly as possible for the seller
by always paying
immediately after I win an auction (why do some people
delay?? I've never understood that); my feedback shows this, it's littered with
"fast payer" comments. I suspect few things are worse for a seller than
someone who wins and then doesn't pay for ages.
In the context of aeronaut19's query, a good used GPU option is the 7970 1GHz
(yes it'll be bottlenecked by a stock 955, but the money saved vs. buying new
means he could more afford an 8350). Yesterday for the first time a 1GHz 7970
sold for less than 180 UKP on eBay UK, which is 60 less than buying new
(reference 7970s go for less of course), and that was from one of the best
sellers here (novatech), so indeed there are some good deals to be had. I'm
looking for two 7970/1GHz cards for my benching project, but I figure it makes
sense to wait until the 290X is out so that pricing has (hopefully) dropped even
further. Naturally, there are also plenty of 7950s available.
So aeronaut19, what games are you playing? Have you checked various
CPU/GPU reviews to see how said games behave? What I do is cross-ref
reviews of a target GPU with those that have used a game I'm interested in,
see how they respond to different levels of CPU power, whether they favour
AMD vs. NVIDIA GPUs (varies hugely), any driver or CF/SLI issues, etc. And
do you want to buy fully new?
Ian.