Radeon HD 7750 with intel dual core E2200

zoxim951 · Oct 15, 2013

Hello
i want to buy the Radeon HD 7750 but im afraid the CPU will bottleneck it too much
CPU: Intel Dual Core E2200 2.20Hz
Currect GPU:220gt 1gb
RAM:2gb
PSU:500W without 6 pin cable
should i buy it? this gpu is meant for gaming and what i have now is good im very happy with it but i want a little bit more performance and graphic
Thank you!

i dont really care if the bottleneck is not affecting too much
btw im playing with resolution 1280x720 or 1280x1024

photonboy · Oct 15, 2013

Hi,
First of all games VARY in how much a CPU bottlenecks things, but you should see a definite benefit in most games.

I don't know the exact difference but they are EIGHT tiers apart:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

RAM:
2GB is a little low but I'm guessing it's DDR2 which is a little expensive now and also you are on a budget. Some games will have issues with that so if you buy any new games research the requirements.

POWER SUPPLY:
You may need a new Power Supply. With an HD7750/70 the lowest I'd recommend is a quality 350W. If you can't handle any card, the Antec VP450 is a pretty good PSU for about $40. It has a single 6-pin graphics connector.

CARDS:
1) $50 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131481
Might not be the BEST card but it's pretty cheap and if it fails you still have the Warranty. If your budget is really tight consider this. I would prefer a BETTER card though.

2) $85 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102969
Reviews seem good.

3) $70 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687
This is an HD7770.

4) $90 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011
*This is an HD7770 which has really good customer reviews.

The difference in cost between most HD7770's and HD7750's is small so I recommend the HD7770 unless:
a) You want the $50 HD7750 as your budget is small, or
b) Your Power Supply can handle an HD7750 but NOT an HD7770.

Other:
a) The Sapphire HD7770 has an ADAPTER for your Power Supply (4-pin Molex to 6-pin I believe) however your PSU must still be capable of handling the load.

b) GAME.
If you didn't know, you get a free game from a list (downloadable). I strongly recommend one of the Dirt racing games as they should be less CPU-dependent than the other games.

WARNING:
avoid 2GB video cards if you have 32-bit Windows. You would lose a small amount of your 2GB of System RAM.

Summary:
- YES. You will see an improvement in most or all games.
- Power Supply.
- My recommended card is the $90 HD7770 from Sapphire (if your PSU can handle it).
- 1GB VRAM if 32-bit Windows (not 2GB).

Sangeet Khatri · Oct 15, 2013

No, it would not bottleneck your CPU at all. Even the 7770 should run fine with that CPU. And also at that resolution, the 7750 is going to perform very good even with quite newer games, so get the 7750.

Also could you post some other specs of your build, like PSU, RAM, etc.. etc..

You need to tell that what PSU are you having. That is the most important thing as for now.

Sangeet Khatri · Oct 15, 2013

No, it would not bottleneck your CPU at all. Even the 7770 should run fine with that CPU. And also at that resolution, the 7750 is going to perform very good even with quite newer games, so get the 7750.

Also could you post some other specs of your build, like PSU, RAM, etc.. etc..

You need to tell that what PSU are you having. That is the most important thing as for now.

photonboy · Oct 15, 2013

Sangeet Khatri :

Wrong.
While it's nearly impossible to find actual benchmarks, I'm pretty knowledgeable of PC's and what will bottleneck.

Here's a typical comment related to this:
"While you usually overly overestimate the CPU importance, you are right in this one. My brother in law has a slighly faster Pentium Dual Core E2200 at stock speed of 2.20GHz and it barely outperformed my Pentium M at 2.70GHz in games using the same video card (I'm talking about 2008 era of course), it can bottleneck to a certain extent an HD 3870, he upgraded to a HD 4870 and he was able to raise more eye candy and Anti Aliasing, but his Frame Rate didn't moved up that much, the Pentium Dual Core has a very little cache that affects the gaming performance considerably, unlike AMD"s which doesn't depend too much in cache for gaming performance. "

Or THIS though it's a little vague:
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110610021208AAbPaQN

It's all academic as any of the cards I listed will improve things, and as I said it will vary but there will be a bottleneck at times due to the CPU though I couldn't give you hard numbers. You aren't going to see a CPU this old in benchmarks using an HD7750/70.

zoxim951 · Oct 15, 2013

photonboy :

Hi,
First of all games VARY in how much a CPU bottlenecks things, but you should see a definite benefit in most games.

I don't know the exact difference but they are EIGHT tiers apart:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

RAM:
2GB is a little low but I'm guessing it's DDR2 which is a little expensive now and also you are on a budget. Some games will have issues with that so if you buy any new games research the requirements.

POWER SUPPLY:
You may need a new Power Supply. With an HD7750/70 the lowest I'd recommend is a quality 350W. If you can't handle any card, the Antec VP450 is a pretty good PSU for about $40. It has a single 6-pin graphics connector.

CARDS:
1) $50 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131481
Might not be the BEST card but it's pretty cheap and if it fails you still have the Warranty. If your budget is really tight consider this. I would prefer a BETTER card though.

2) $85 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102969
Reviews seem good.

3) $70 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687
This is an HD7770.

4) $90 (after MIR): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011
*This is an HD7770 which has really good customer reviews.

The difference in cost between most HD7770's and HD7750's is small so I recommend the HD7770 unless:
a) You want the $50 HD7750 as your budget is small, or
b) Your Power Supply can handle an HD7750 but NOT an HD7770.

Other:
a) The Sapphire HD7770 has an ADAPTER for your Power Supply (4-pin Molex to 6-pin I believe) however your PSU must still be capable of handling the load.

b) GAME.
If you didn't know, you get a free game from a list (downloadable). I strongly recommend one of the Dirt racing games as they should be less CPU-dependent than the other games.

WARNING:
avoid 2GB video cards if you have 32-bit Windows. You would lose a small amount of your 2GB of System RAM.

Summary:
- YES. You will see an improvement in most or all games.
- Power Supply.
- My recommended card is the $90 HD7770 from Sapphire (if your PSU can handle it).
- 1GB VRAM if 32-bit Windows (not 2GB).

i have a 500W PSU but i dont have 6 pin for a video card
i want to buy the radeon hd 7750, it doesnt need a 6 pin from the PSU
i dont really want to buy a new PSU for the 7770
will the 7750 bottleneck much?
and my PSU can handle 7770 with the adapter?
and can you find me a shop that can ship to israel maybe?
thank you very much

Sangeet Khatri · Oct 15, 2013

Damn.. even the dual core Celerons would not bottleneck the 7750. Hence the Core 2 Duo at 2.2 Ghz should be good enough for the purpose. So, just grab one of those. Really, it should have no problem.

zoxim951 · Oct 15, 2013

Thank you very much for the help, but im switching pc's with my mom and im getting I3, 8GB Ram and ill buy a much better card for that pc, ill come back later for help, thank you all!!

Sangeet Khatri · Oct 15, 2013

Well.. with the i3, I can recommend upto a 7870 if your PSU is like 500W or above, it should be no problem.

The i3 with 7870 (or 660) would be very good for gaming.

zoxim951 · Oct 15, 2013

i think the "new" pc for me have better PSU than what i have now, i think ill get a nicer GPU than 7870 or 660, i want one to hold games for some good years

Sangeet Khatri · Oct 15, 2013

Well.. then get the 7950. It is currently selling for really cheap price and the stock won't last very soon, so get one on your hands before the stock just runs out of reach.

Get this card. It is the best bang for the buck right now on the market.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $179.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-15 11:42 EDT-0400)

I hope this helps.

zoxim951 · Oct 15, 2013

I can't get it now :\
im buying a card at christmas or something, the end of the year

photonboy · Oct 15, 2013

zoxim951 :

Quick tips:
1) Look at BENCHMARKS for the best card in your budget (if comparing AMD to NVidia)

2) Get one with a half decent COOLER.

3) See if any GAMES are offered with the card.

4) Read the CUSTOMER REVIEWS for the card.

5) Ensure you have the proper 6-pin/8-pin Power Cables on your Power Supply.

6) The NEW AMD cards use the same GPU so they're mostly a rebrand (280x etc) so they might not offer the best value. Compare the HD7xxx cards to the new cards to get the best performance for your dollar.

zoxim951 · Oct 16, 2013

photonboy :

im planning to buy GTX770 2GB, the question is if it will bottleneck?
CPU:I3 2100
RAM:8GB
and about the PSU i dont really know but i dont have a problem to get 600W one with 2 6pin connector from my country
so will the CPU bottleneck the GPU?
and my motherboard is gigabyte H61M-D2-B3 , rev 0.9, do you know if it support PCI 3?
thank you very much!

oh i forgot this pc has right now Intel HD Graphics 1000, is that gonna be a problem or something?
and i want to buy from newegg is it safe? im shipping it in the us
does it matter what manufacturer im buying? because i dont really trust newegg because i never ordered from there, and best buy dont have gigabyte, what other manufacturer are you recommending?

Sangeet Khatri · Oct 17, 2013

1. No reason to go for the 770. You can get similarly powerful AMD 280X for 100 dollars cheaper.

2. Anyways anything more than the 7950 would likely be bottlenecked by a i3 2100. So, get either the 7950 or the Nvidia 760. Nothing more than that for the GPU.

3. Anyways, if your Motherboard has a PCI Xpress 2.0 slot, then too it would run fine with any graphics card currently. They are backwards compatible. That is the card with PCI Xpress 3.0 would run just fine with a motherboard that has a PCI Express 2.0

4. No, the Integrated graphics are not going to be a problem at all.

5. Of course, newegg is really safe. It is the most trusted online store as far as you are buying hardware.

6. For Graphics Card, I have no problem recommending any of these.

--> Asus
--> Gigabyte
--> Sapphire
--> EVGA
--> XFX
--> MSI

zoxim951 · Oct 17, 2013

i think ill get gtx 770 2GB and ill upgrade my i3 later on, thank for your help

Sangeet Khatri · Oct 23, 2013

If at any point of time you feel that your question has been answered then you can mark the thread as "Solved" by "Picking A Solution". It would be appreciated by people who are looking for similar answers.

Thanks for coming to Tomshardware, best place to ask for question regarding hardware on the whole Internet.. In my opinion of course..

Anyways have fun..

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