Intel Core i7 860 Runs At 60 C On Firefox

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

These are my temps when I'm on firefox, I'm thinking it's a little high. As far as airflow goes, it has 3 fans in it (one on the video card, a Radeon HD 5850, and two others in the case) and the side panel is off to increase airflow as well. Would taking a can of air to it fix this problem? I'm not intelligent, at all, when it comes to computer so please be nice

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

I don't believe I have any heatsinks.

nukemaster · Oct 15, 2013

Without a heatsink it would not be running.

The intel cooler is bad for collecting lots of dust.

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

Annd that shows you how much I know

When it comes to computers, I just tell people to treat me like I'm 5 when explaining things lol. I'll buy a can of compressed air and blow it out and see if that helps at all. I just figured I'd ask if those temps while running firefox was high because I googled it before making a thread about it and everyone gives different answers, it's frustrating.

CompuTronix · Oct 15, 2013

It's also possible that the fan has failed, or is in the process of failing due to the bearings becoming sticky. This happens more often to those who leave their computers run 24/7/365 due to wear and tear on the fan motor bearings.

After you remove the cover, start the computer and observe the fan during power up. At some point during this early phase, the motherboard should perform a self-test and spin the fan up to 100% RPM. If the fan is working properly it will be obvious because it will be a bit noisy before it slows down.

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

CompuTronix :

The fan on my video card is quite loud currently. Annoyingly so. I googled that too and most have said it's the ball bearings wearing out. I used to have it on 365 because I was told it's easier on the comp than turning it on and off constantly. My video card fan will be absolutely atrociously loud for a bit, then it will be quiet for awhile and then start up again. All the fans are working. I'm also using a desktop, it's not a laptop.

CompuTronix · Oct 15, 2013

Your i7 860 is probably about 5 years old. If it's not overclocked, then it probably has Intel's stock cooler. If it is overclocked, then it probably has an after-market cooler. Regardless, remaining powered up 365 collects dust and wears hard drive spindle bearings and fan bearings, which you've described with your graphics card.

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

I went into the power settings and it's set to balanced. Would switching it to power saver cool it down? And what kind of effect would that have if I switch it? It's 3 years old.

nukemaster · Oct 15, 2013

Balanced should work fine.

The cpu will clock down at idle.

If you have a look, you should be able to see how dusty it is. you may be able to remove some with a small brush(with the system off.)

Please do not remove the cooler from the system as you would need new thermal paste.

CompuTronix · Oct 15, 2013

If you go a little deeper into Power Options and click on "Change plan settings" then into "Change advanced power settings", then scroll down to "Processor power management" you'll see "Minimum processor state".

This is the Windows setting which if set above 40%, can disable Speedstep regardless of the settings in BIOS. In the "Balanced" power plan the default setting is "5%". If this is your setting then it's correct, so your temperature problem is elsewhere.

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

CompuTronix :

Balanced is set to 5% minimum. I went into my video card settings through the Catalyst and it's slightly overclocked. Would putting those bars down to the minimum reduce heat?

CompuTronix · Oct 15, 2013

Sorry, we were posting at the same time. That will not affect processor temperatures. As Nuke and I have suggested, let's take a look at dust and processor fan speed during power up.

There's no substitute for a close visual inspection. Use a strong light.

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

All 3 of my fans work upon start up, I looked. My machine is dusty. Not caked with dust or anything, but there is dust. I'm completely non-intelligent when it comes to stuff like this so I've always had someone else clean it out because I'm afraid I'll blast something I'm not supposed to or touch something I shouldn't have. I just figure it's better not to risk it because I'm technologically impaired, we'll say.

CompuTronix · Oct 15, 2013

I understand. This is why we perform "PM's" or "Periodic Maintenance Inspections" on industrial electronics equipment.

One will only be able to drive a car so far before the hood will eventually demand that it be opened! You caught the light on the dashboard, and that's a good thing!

But as us guys know, many ladies will ignore that warning light and keep driving until smoke comes out from under the hood and the car just stops! :sol:

So I think you're a little more computer savvy than you give yourself credit for.

Sourstone · Oct 15, 2013

I know, I really should keep up with it. And I definitely will from here on out. Before I get too crazy with replacing things and all that jazz, I'll just have it cleaned out again, it's been about a year and hopefully that will help before I get crazy with having it taken apart, etc. I really appreciate the help

nukemaster · Oct 15, 2013

If you feel like posting an image of that cooler we may be able to see how it looks.

The Intel stock cooler is a dust magnet and tends to clog rather easy.

Like CompuTronix said. Some users will just keep on grinding the computer until it fails. As long as <-insert social networking site that is not very social here-> works, the computer is fine.

CompuTronix · Oct 15, 2013

Yes, one picture is worth a thousand words.

But going back ... to which 3 fans are you referring? You've said "As far as airflow goes, it has 3 fans in it (one on the video card, a Radeon HD 5850, and two others in the case)". There's always a fan on the CPU and one in the power supply.

Most computers also have at least one intake and/or exhaust fan, so please give us a little more detail.

CompuTronix · Oct 15, 2013

Also, it's possible that there's a software problem. When you run Firefox, what is the "CPU Usage" under the "Performance" Tab in "Windows Task Manager"? Do you get the same results when you run Internet Explorer?

Sourstone · Oct 16, 2013

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Sorry for the pics being so blurry, I don't have a digital or a cell, it's from a webcam, There is one fan on the back, one inside that black circle and one in my Radeon card. Also, at what temps should I start to get worried?

nukemaster · Oct 16, 2013

It is the fan at the end of the black tube that should need cleaning.

As for temps @ about 75c start to worry. Honestly those LGA 1156 cpus ran nice and coo

With a very basic aftermarket(not too basic but not even a larger tower cooler or anything) cooler my i5 750 runs very cool hitting a MAX temperature of 50c with stock cooling I think it hit about 70 or so.

Since you are getting it cleaned or cleaning it, make sure you blast some air from the back vent on the video card(then from the fan and back and forth to remove as much dust as you can) as those get dirty as well.

Sourstone · Oct 16, 2013

Alright, I'm make sure that gets blown out well. Also, the black thing with the white sticker on it is quite hot to the touch. Not burn your finger off hot, but very, very warm. What is that and what causes that?

nukemaster · Oct 16, 2013

It is a hard drive. It gets hot in cases without much cooling.

As long as it stays under 60c(50c or lower would be much better. under 40 is great

) it should be fine. Mine is 32, but it has a fan right in front of it and spins slower(5900rpm while most are 7200)

Sourstone · Oct 16, 2013

Well, given that the side panel is off and there are 2 fans in there aside from the one on the video card, it really shouldn't be that hot to the touch. When I turned my comp on just now all the core temps were over 70 for some reason and wouldn't go down. I turned off the computer, unplugged it and cleaned the small fan in the back with a Q Tip as well as the fan on the inside of that black tube, than blasted some compressed air into both and got some dust out of it and I have an actual fan (like you'd used in the summertime) and put that on a chair and put it probably 3 feet away from it and turned it so it was facing it and have it on it too and my temps went down to 47 C. I figured a fan is a fan and those multiple 70's made me nervous.

nukemaster · Oct 16, 2013

Can you see much dust in the heatsink at the base of the black tube?

The high core temps on startup happen because the system is at a higher load before windows is finished loading. It would go down, but takes time because I can only guess your heatsink is still dirty.

Due to how hard drives are built, they hold heat quite well. It is not abnormal for it to get hot. My WDC Black 2TB could get in the 40s-50's without much trouble(sitting next to the case in the open. Its a damn hot drive). The case is if a hard drive heatsink of sorts.

Also your screen shot shows the drive at 35 degrees. perfectly safe.

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