Cpu temp problem

Ratul Chakrabarty · Oct 16, 2013

My rig is:

AMD Fx 6300
MSI 970A-g43
Kingston Hyperx blu 8gb
Corsair cx 500
WD blue 1tb
Asus gtx 760

My cpu temps at idle is around 30-45C and at load it is around 60-68C Is this normal or should i get a cpu cooler asap ?

JOHNN93 · Oct 16, 2013

no problem at all its the best temperatures for the system

w95linux · Oct 16, 2013

well if you are using the stock cooler then its normal.

Ratul Chakrabarty · Oct 16, 2013

woah thanks i thought the temps were insanely high

and btw does the temp decrease the cpu's performance?

Patrick Guenter · Oct 16, 2013

as long as it isnt a critical height, it wont

JOHNN93 · Oct 16, 2013

no they actually run the possessor at its highest performance possible.
manufactures recommend these temps for a reason

Ratul Chakrabarty · Oct 16, 2013

Patrick Guenter :

will the temps reduce the life of my cpu?

Patrick Guenter · Oct 16, 2013

no they wont

Ratul Chakrabarty · Oct 16, 2013

Java:

Patrick Guenter :

thanks fr the info

JOHNN93 · Oct 16, 2013

if you had higher temps over 70 yes thermal stress is then a issue.

Ratul Chakrabarty · Oct 16, 2013

JOHNN93 :

I used Hw monitor to see the temps and i played battlefield 3 for 1.5 hrs and the max temp recorded was 68 and was hovering between 60-68

JOHNN93 · Oct 16, 2013

as i mentioned before your temps are optimal.battlefield uses a engine that requires possessing power of the CPU its normal.

expl0itfinder · Oct 16, 2013

Those temps are pretty high for the 6300. They would be safe for an Intel processor, but the FX series does not play nicely with temperatures higher than ~60C. A CPU cooler would be a very good idea, because your current temperatures COULD lower the life of your CPU. It would still probably last for quite a few years, but it isn't worth the risk. This is a great cooler for the price, if it will fit in your case:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Patrick Guenter · Oct 16, 2013

JOHNN93 :

no it isnt. thats why amd or intel are giving the max temps. coz thats mos tthe limit what the hardware can suffer

expl0itfinder · Oct 16, 2013

Patrick Guenter :

That isn't true. According to intel, the i7-4770K maxes out at around 67C. However, in stress testing, it doesn't throttle until you reach around 85C.

http://www.buildcomputers.net/cpu-temperature.html

Patrick Guenter · Oct 16, 2013

as its just the core temp, a non physical temp, we are talking about the real temp it is 10°C less, isnt it?
so 70°C is totally fine, as the cpu temp as a physically temp will be at 60

expl0itfinder · Oct 16, 2013

Patrick Guenter :

That isn't really true either. Core Temp is what matters most, as the cores are doing all the heavy lifting. So if the core temp is at 70C, for an AMD CPU, you are in trouble.

Patrick Guenter · Oct 16, 2013

well, the core temp is just a calulated number from voltage and some other factores.
so, as u increase one of these factores, the number will automatically rise. so, its a pretty bad factor to think about, or?

expl0itfinder · Oct 16, 2013

Patrick Guenter :

No, core temp is measured by physical sensors, so it is not a calculation, but a hard measurement. This makes it a very valid factor.

Patrick Guenter · Oct 16, 2013

so, the max tcase for amd is 61.1 C, the max tjunction is max 70 C.
@exploit
agreed to your opinion that its pretty high.

JOHNN93 · Oct 16, 2013

Patrick Guenter :

first of all every cpu has its own limits and you can not compare them.if you block your fan you will see the t junction will change.
core temp is a program that access the temperature reading in your BIOS which is the most accurate.
My cpu temps at idle is around 30-45C and at load it is around 60-68C Is this normal or should i get a cpu cooler asap ?
this was the argument here.
his temps are fine if you disagree go educate your self's
he does not need a cpu cooler.his stock cooler is meant to provide the best temps for the cpu.
and if someone wants to argue with this why did inlet trim the stock coolers that come with modern possessors.
1.half the materials needed to produce a heat sink
2.the CPU did not produce heat as old generations
3. you will find that if you by a Pentium the heat sink is fully aluminum with a i5 the core is copper all cpu have nearly the same temperature when operating.

Patrick Guenter · Oct 16, 2013

JOHNN93 :

Patrick Guenter :

first of all every cpu has its own limits and you can not compare them.
read ur last argument and see how your own arguments are against eachother lol
if you block your fan you will see the t junction will change.
core temp is a program that access the temperature reading in your BIOS which is the most accurate.
My cpu temps at idle is around 30-45C and at load it is around 60-68C Is this normal or should i get a cpu cooler asap ?
this was the argument here.
his temps are fine if you disagree go educate your self's
this is what i said, but what got proofen wrong/so go an learn to read --> educate urself
he does not need a cpu cooler.his stock cooler is meant to provide the best temps for the cpu. it's not optimal at all
and if someone wants to argue with this why did inlet trim the stock coolers that come with modern possessors.processors
1.half the materials is needed to produce a heat sink
2.the CPU did not produce heat as old generations what do you want to say?
3. you will find that if you by a Pentium the heat sink is fully aluminum with a i5 the core is copper all cpu have nearly the same temperature when operating. not totally true

expl0itfinder · Oct 16, 2013

JOHNN93 :

You are comparing two very different CPUs. High temperatures are ABSOLUTLEY fine...for Intel CPUs (which happened to be the only thing you mentioned). For AMD CPU's, such as the one in question, should not be running nearly as hot as the equivalent intel. The reason intel CPU's run hotter is because they use TIM on the CPU instead of Fluxless Solder. This makes thermal conductivity less efficient, and make the job harder for the CPU cooler. However, intel CPU's are DESIGNED to run hotter, so this isn't really an issue. AMD, on the other hand, does not play nicely with high temperatures, and will likely throttle when you get past the 65C mark. As for the claim that the stock CPU cooler is automatically sufficient for the CPU just because it shipped with it, it is once again false. The stock CPU is free, made with very cheap materials that are designed to be "just enough". So contrary to your claim, I am fairly educated on the topic, however I stand behind my claim that his temps are NOT fine.

JOHNN93 · Oct 17, 2013

that are designed to be "just enough''
if he is not planing to overclock he does not need a better cooler.
even i don't like the stock coolers of amd.
cpu have a slight tolorence. his max temps are 68 at full load but doese not always reach those temps his idle temps are betwene 30-45.
beacause whatever is say someone will call it false.i found this article that should clear the problem.

There are conflicting reports on the TjMax for the FX-6300 but this temp is of no concern as you should not be operating your CPU at this temp. TjMax is NOT the 24/7 operating temp for the CPU. AFAIK the max 24/7 temp for the FX-6300 is 70C. For the 8-core FX processors it's 61C. So all you care about is that your FX-6300 doesn't exceed 70C under max load, which it should not with proper cooling.

Ratul Chakrabarty · Nov 17, 2013

expl0itfinder :

JOHNN93 :

You are comparing two very different CPUs. High temperatures are ABSOLUTLEY fine...for Intel CPUs (which happened to be the only thing you mentioned). For AMD CPU's, such as the one in question, should not be running nearly as hot as the equivalent intel. The reason intel CPU's run hotter is because they use TIM on the CPU instead of Fluxless Solder. This makes thermal conductivity less efficient, and make the job harder for the CPU cooler. However, intel CPU's are DESIGNED to run hotter, so this isn't really an issue. AMD, on the other hand, does not play nicely with high temperatures, and will likely throttle when you get past the 65C mark. As for the claim that the stock CPU cooler is automatically sufficient for the CPU just because it shipped with it, it is once again false. The stock CPU is free, made with very cheap materials that are designed to be "just enough". So contrary to your claim, I am fairly educated on the topic, however I stand behind my claim that his temps are NOT fine.

man u confused me even more, so wht do u think i should do now ?
get a cooler or not plz elaborate, im not getting any upgrades in the near future

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