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Socket 1155 vs 1150 - 3d or 4th generation PC Gaming System is better to buy now ?

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October 16, 2013 5:59:57 PM

Hello, i was reading lately about new 4th gen cpus. I found that the differences are not very big among them and the worst is that 4th gen are more warm processors.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/pc-components/p...

1) Please advice me witch System is better to buy.
2) Which Motherboard is more reliable and better choice.
3) Will i be able to overclock with my "1600mhz" memory or i have to buy faster memories.
4) Is the 3570k is really as good as it seems (i mean according to Passmark and other sites) for gaming.

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Socket 1155 Sys....
ASUS P8Z77-V LX2 ---- 100 €
Gigabyte GA-Z77M-D3H ---- 87 €
INTEL I5-3570K 3.40GHZ ---- 213 € (7115 Score at PassMark)
INTEL I5-3570 3.40GHZ ---- 190 € (6994 Score at PassMark)

23 euro plus for Ivy overclocking cpu
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Socket 1150 Sys....
Asrock Z87 Pro4 ----- 107 €
Gigabyte GA-Z87-HD3 ----- 104 €
Asus Z87-K ----- 114 €
INTEL CORE I5-4570 3.20GHZ ---- 183.76 € (7060 Score at PassMark)
INTEL CORE I5-4670K 3.40GHZ ---- 220.71 € (7537 Score at PassMark)

37 euro plus for Haswell overclocking cpu
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http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3...
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4...
http://cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4670K...

Acording to this sites : http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z87-H87-H81-Q...
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http://techreport.com/news/24950/intel-removes-modest-f...

I have to buy "k-series" Cpu : "Z87" motherboard to be able overclock Haswell
and "z77" chipset motherboard for "1155" cpu socket.


- I'm working on a budget of around $300 for a mob and Cpu.
- want to use the system for fairly high-end gaming. Crysis 3,Far cry 3, Bioshock Infinite, and Witcher 3 are among my list of future game purchases.
- I am looking to buy Nvidia 760 video card.
- I don't need SLI or Crossfire, but I wouldn't mind if I had it.
- I intend to overclock.
- Have 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz RAM from my previews "1156" system with burned motherboard.

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October 16, 2013 6:27:20 PM

If you want to OC, go with the 3570K and Asus mobo
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October 18, 2013 3:24:07 AM

Tradesman1 said:
If you want to OC, go with the 3570K and Asus mobo


Thank you, how about my memories, can i overclock with them ?
I have xms3 Corsair 9-9-9-24 1.65v ver 5.12
CMX8GX3M2A1600C9
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October 18, 2013 8:07:58 AM

Can try, might get them to 1866. would try by raising each of the base timings by 1, add 0.05 to the DRAM voltage and maybe a touch of extra voltage to the MC (memory controller)
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October 23, 2013 3:34:46 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Can try, might get them to 1866. would try by raising each of the base timings by 1, add 0.05 to the DRAM voltage and maybe a touch of extra voltage to the MC (memory controller)


If i understand right, you mean cache latencies 10-10-10-25 , 1.70v.
I gues that MC (memory controller) will be in bios in options with the others.
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October 23, 2013 5:02:40 PM

Depends on what mobo you go with, if socket 1155, many use either VCCIO or CPUVTT to address the MC, Asus tends to combine the MC voltage into the VCCSA (system Agent Voltage
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October 23, 2013 5:32:49 PM

That's up to you, both are good mobos, I myself like the full ATX for most all rigs for the extra room and expansion capabilities
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October 23, 2013 5:59:00 PM

Ok. Usualy me to, always buing Atx and never use all the Pcis. I'd like to have a smaller case this time i think.
Thank you very much for your help. I appreciate it. :) 
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October 23, 2013 7:05:31 PM

Let us know how it goes
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October 26, 2013 6:25:31 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Let us know how it goes




Ok. I Will.

1)
Do you know how far can i overclock 3570k with it's own heat sink and cooler ?
I don't intend to buy another. I believe that it's better to spend 80 euro for buying a better CPU like i7 that just a cooler to push the system and have the same results or even below.

I'm thinking to order the system this Monday. Found
Asus Z77-A (ATX) at the same price. I think its little bit newer and better than ASUS P8Z77-V LX2.
(Superior Components -100% All Solid Capacitors & Extra Durable Stainless Steel Back I/O).

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Also i have 500W OCZ PSU. Is this powerful enough to use ASUS GTX 760 DirectCU II OC at Maximum Performance.
Till now i found this about Power Consumption :
Asus gtx760 300-315 Wat
i5 3570k 40-112 and some inform 119 - 300 Wat.

A) http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i5_3570k_revi...
B) http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/05/01/intel-...

I'm Confused...
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October 26, 2013 6:53:35 PM

I wouldn't use the stock cooler past 3.9, look at the Hyper 212 EVO for $30-35, on the PSU, it will be close, not sure what OCZ you have, but both the regular and their Fatal1ty versions are about 435 watts continuous, think I would like a little extra if running full out
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October 26, 2013 7:28:41 PM

Tradesman1 said:
I wouldn't use the stock cooler past 3.9, look at the Hyper 212 EVO for $30-35, on the PSU, it will be close, not sure what OCZ you have, but both the regular and their Fatal1ty versions are about 435 watts continuous, think I would like a little extra if running full out



You're right. I will need to buy a better cooler at around 30-35 euro, it's not so expensive. I'm already started to look for one. Why this Hyper EVO 212 is so Famous, i heard about it somewhere. But im not sure it is something special, i think it is noisy.
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I want to have Silent cooler when pc is idle (becouse i have small room and a don't close the pc often) and affective one when it's at full load. I found this coolers till now (Xigmatek Gaia, GELID GX-7 & Tranquillo Rev.2, Zalman ), i think they are the most silent. Do you have something better to propose ?

OCZ OCZ500SXS2-EU STEALTH XSTREAM2 POWER SUPPLY 500W is my UPS

Thank you for your advices and your time.
It's first time i'm so involved in computer research. It is now 5 days im going to sleep at around 5 o'clock. Your Site even put me a Badges of night Owl. Haha, impresive :) 
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October 26, 2013 7:44:32 PM

I've used better than 70 Hyper 212s and haven't found them loud, started with tham back around when Sandy Bridge came out, up pricewise a bit are the Phanteks
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October 27, 2013 6:45:32 PM

Tradesman1 said:
I've used better than 70 Hyper 212s and haven't found them loud, started with tham back around when Sandy Bridge came out, up pricewise a bit are the Phanteks


Sorry I'm not sure i understand complete your last answer. I guess i have to do my research. Can you give me three coolers that are good in your opinion (Silent ant effective)
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October 27, 2013 6:54:40 PM

Hyper 212 EVO, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, CM GTS V8
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October 27, 2013 8:34:59 PM

Might be a good one, haven't used one yet, (no ones asked) ;) 
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