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I am looking for a second monitor to go along with my Asus 24'' 1920x1080 2ms 60hz monitor, and I am also looking to upgrade the graphics card on the computer that I will be using these two monitors on. Overall budget is $900 (give or take a few bucks). I will be using the monitor for gaming, programming, and every day type use, but I would like a refresh rate higher than 60hz and a low response time. As far as the graphics card goes, I will be playing games (hopefully on max settings) and programming. I can wait a month or two on the graphics card (wait for the AMD R9 290/290x to release/price drops). I have no brand preference but I would like something reliable.
My specs are Intel I5 3750k, GTX 560, 4x4gb 1600 ram, Gigabyte z77x-ud5h motherboard, and XFX Pro750w PSU. Thanks for any help/suggestions!
 
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Its a tough question to answer an probably depends who you are asking.

Personally I find the advantage of a higher resolution by far outweighs any reports of sluggish response. As mentioned previously my 1080p is gathering dust. I have been saying this for a while but sometimes people on these forums reply that they would much rather have a 1080p with high refresh rather than a higher resolution. I have my sneaky suspicions that most of those people have not seen 1440p gaming with say 50+FPS but who knows.

For me 1440p RUINED 1080p. I get that "WTF is this crappy image" feeling when I game on 1080 now the same way you get that feeling when you see an old school 480i Televison.

I think the best would be for you too see for yourself...
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I would suggest getting the asus vn247-p 1080p (1ms) monitor but it only has a refresh rate of 60hz. If I where you I'd look into getting a 1440p monitor as some can run similar to the price of a 1080p 120hz monitor.

As for the video card I'd go with a 280x for $300 (will do everything you need at 1080p) or wait out the 290/290x.
 
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With your budget I would also be looking at a 1440p screen. I mean you can still use the 2 screens as an extended desktop and game only on the 1440p. My prediction is once you see 1440p you will just ditch the 1080p just like I did despite my initial plans to have two monitors.

I would recommend:
Qnix 27inch 2560x1400p monitor 375$. Can be overclocked to 110-120Hz!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2RY0ZA3895
Geforce GTX 770 400$.

The GTX 770 will produce decent FPS at 2560x1440 with some details turned down in the most demanding games.

From Toms benchmark:
GTX770 @ 2560x1440 BF3 with Ultra and 4xmsaa: avg 53FPS
GTX770 @ 2560x1440 Skyrim Ultra and FXAA: avg 75FPS
GTX770 @ 2560x1440 FarCry3 Ultra 4xmsaa and HBAO: 30FPS

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-770-gk104-review,3519.html

And you can add a second 770 down the road. I would also argue that a game on medium settings in 1440p looks MUCH better than the same game on ultra settings at 1080p.

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What about http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313 ? All the 1440p monitors I saw (within my price range) had slow response times, wouldn't that negate the advantage of having a high refresh rate for gaming?
 
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Its a tough question to answer an probably depends who you are asking.

Personally I find the advantage of a higher resolution by far outweighs any reports of sluggish response. As mentioned previously my 1080p is gathering dust. I have been saying this for a while but sometimes people on these forums reply that they would much rather have a 1080p with high refresh rather than a higher resolution. I have my sneaky suspicions that most of those people have not seen 1440p gaming with say 50+FPS but who knows.

For me 1440p RUINED 1080p. I get that "WTF is this crappy image" feeling when I game on 1080 now the same way you get that feeling when you see an old school 480i Televison.

I think the best would be for you too see for yourself! Go to a store/friends/whatever where they would have a 1440p screen and game on it for 5 minutes. I bet you will be convinced but if that is not the case let me know!

I leave you with a quote from Toms review of 4K gaming, sure its 4K and not 1440p but I think the overall feeling is similar.

"Sitting in front of 3840x2160 will absolutely wreck 1920x1080 for you—even if you’re used to playing across three screens."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pq321q-4k-gaming,3620-10.html
 
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Hey Logox,

I think you are doing the right thing waiting if you are ok with your current system. Note that it is the monitors you are waiting for not the new GPUs as I do believe they mention any Kepler GPU (600 or 700 series) will be able to function with G-sync. I was very close to ordering an overclockable 1440p monitor myself and think I will wait and see if any 1440p's come out that are G-sync enabled. They might be fairly expensive tho compared to a 300$ display but time will tell. With 4K displays already out there I'm fairly confident the 1080p standard will be gone in 2-3 years and the 4K displays will drive down the cost of 1440p and 1600p
 
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Yea, I am buying a few other things now and I will wait to see the gtx 780ti and r9 290/290x. I hope they release a G-sync enabled 1440p with low response time (less than 5ms) and refresh rate of 120hz, but those are pretty high expectations lol. Thanks again for the help.
 
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