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I5 4670k vs a i7 4770k for watch dogs

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October 17, 2013 5:40:24 AM

Hi there, building a pc and tossing up between the i5 and i7. Looking to primarily game and specifically max out the game watch dogs (delayed :(  ) would the i5 manage it? Or is the hyper threading a bit of a requirement. Hard with it not out but does anyone have any opinions?
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Finn

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October 17, 2013 5:52:50 AM

For gaming go with i5-4670k, based on my personal experiences I can tell u its worth the money. (i7 is needed for heavy multitasking and video/photo editing).

Have fun!!
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October 17, 2013 5:55:07 AM

Hyperthreading makes no difference to games at all, it is helpful to professional apps, but not for gaming
Save the money and get the i5
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October 17, 2013 10:21:47 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, I was who you all 100% till now that there is no difference in gaming between the i5 and the i7, it was only that the specs to get "ultra" that were leaked specified an 8 core cpu and that had me concerned, will the I5 be fine do you think?
October 17, 2013 10:21:49 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, I was who you all 100% till now that there is no difference in gaming between the i5 and the i7, it was only that the specs to get "ultra" that were leaked specified an 8 core cpu and that had me concerned, will the I5 be fine do you think?
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October 21, 2013 4:15:33 AM

Finnb said:
Thanks for the replies guys, I was who you all 100% till now that there is no difference in gaming between the i5 and the i7, it was only that the specs to get "ultra" that were leaked specified an 8 core cpu and that had me concerned, will the I5 be fine do you think?


Yep, U wont regret it. Have fun!!
April 9, 2014 7:29:47 AM

Turns out you regreted it. Watchdogs recommends a 8 core there for the i7 will run it vastly faster. In fact the min is a quad core. Im to understand there is so many processes running in watchdogs at ones the more cores the better
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April 9, 2014 8:39:06 AM

Matt Bull said:
Turns out you regreted it. Watchdogs recommends a 8 core there for the i7 will run it vastly faster. In fact the min is a quad core. Im to understand there is so many processes running in watchdogs at ones the more cores the better


i know that my 120$ FX-8320@4.4ghz 8core/8thread CPU will slice through that game and so many other games to come like a hot knife in butter.
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April 9, 2014 8:59:56 AM

I'm sure everyones haswell i5s gonna slice through it aswell.
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April 9, 2014 9:07:50 AM

vmN said:
I'm sure everyones haswell i5s gonna slice through it aswell.

yup probably ;)  i knew you where going to comment on that BTW ... LoL :p 
Hook-D and Cturbo will probably follow as well...
April 9, 2014 3:11:46 PM

Im not so sure quads are the way of the futre. The witcher 3 will most defenatly be an 8 core to. The physics in watch dogs runs on 2 cores I read. Can reference that to if you like. So in order to put physics to ultra ull need 8 cores id say.
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April 10, 2014 8:11:25 AM

People need to understand the difference between requiring 8 threads and supporting 8 threads.

If a 4670k cant handle it, a 8350 wouldn't neither. Simple-
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April 10, 2014 8:22:58 AM

Matt Bull said:
Turns out you regreted it. Watchdogs recommends a 8 core there for the i7 will run it vastly faster. In fact the min is a quad core. Im to understand there is so many processes running in watchdogs at ones the more cores the better


Are you even aware that the i7-4770k has the same number of cores as the i5-4670k?
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April 10, 2014 8:28:05 AM

vmN said:
People need to understand the difference between requiring 8 threads and supporting 8 threads.

If a 4670k cant handle it, a 8350 wouldn't neither. Simple-


right, so far we've seen games ''supporting'' as up to 8 threads (BF4, crysis 3...) but no games ''require'' 8 threads yet. BF4 for example run's 3 heavy threads and spread the rest of the load across all the other cores available...so a powerfull quad core CPU is sufficient to provide maximum performance and feed the GPU to 100%...i think no games will ever REQUIRE 8 heavy threads in a near or distant future because even the ps4 or xbone could not handle that (jaguar CPU's are kind of slow and will always need 2 cores for OS and background operations) so in theory we should see games that will REQUIRE 6 heavy threads and spread the rest of the load to other available core...when those kind of games will hit the PC market (watch dogs will be the first one to hit at the end of may 2014) then we will start to see the 4 threads capable CPU starts to suffer due to a lack of hability to operate more than 4 heavy threads at a time. That explains the 8 thread CPU recommanded requirement for watch dogs PC, it will perform better on an 8 thread capable CPU that is a sure thing, even if the core of the FX CPU's are slower by about 30% the overall performance of the CPU will be better since no core will be utilised at 100% at any given time, the load will be spread accross all 8 cores.

A good analogy would be that BF4 for example need you to dig a hole using only 3 shovels, wheter you have 4 guys to get the job done or 8 guys, it makes no difference you still get only 3 shovels, the other guys can bring fresh water and provide shade but it does not make the hole digged any faster...

Next generation games will use more of those ''heavy threads'' so watch dogs need you to dig a hole a little deeper, but will allow you to do it using 6 shovels, so having 6 guys to dig the hole is much faster than 4, and you still have 2 more guys to bring the water...
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April 10, 2014 8:42:17 AM

Rationale said:
Matt Bull said:
Turns out you regreted it. Watchdogs recommends a 8 core there for the i7 will run it vastly faster. In fact the min is a quad core. Im to understand there is so many processes running in watchdogs at ones the more cores the better


Are you even aware that the i7-4770k has the same number of cores as the i5-4670k?

it does but it can handle 8 heavy threads at a time and this will become very handy.
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April 10, 2014 12:02:52 PM

I would go more the i7 route for Watch Dogs, given the requirements. If overclocking is not a concern, 1230 v3.
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April 10, 2014 12:16:01 PM

logainofhades said:
I would go more the i7 route for Watch Dogs, given the requirements. If overclocking is not a concern, 1230 v3.

I totally agree on that, as long as it fit in the budget.
Otherwise FX-8320 OC it is...

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April 10, 2014 12:28:48 PM

paitjsu sadff said:
vmN said:
I'm sure everyones haswell i5s gonna slice through it aswell.

yup probably ;)  i knew you where going to comment on that BTW ... LoL :p 
Hook-D and Cturbo will probably follow as well...


Who is Hook-D?

Don't worry, I won't participate in this conversation as it seems it has already been explained to you. I'm amused that you thought to mention me, though.
April 10, 2014 6:19:39 PM

Rationale said:
Matt Bull said:
Turns out you regreted it. Watchdogs recommends a 8 core there for the i7 will run it vastly faster. In fact the min is a quad core. Im to understand there is so many processes running in watchdogs at ones the more cores the better


Are you even aware that the i7-4770k has the same number of cores as the i5-4670k?




You are aware that the fastest amd 8core still loses to 3770k or 4770k that has 4 cores in every single multithreaded benchmark ive ever seen. TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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April 10, 2014 7:28:45 PM

Matt Bull said:
Rationale said:
Matt Bull said:
Turns out you regreted it. Watchdogs recommends a 8 core there for the i7 will run it vastly faster. In fact the min is a quad core. Im to understand there is so many processes running in watchdogs at ones the more cores the better


Are you even aware that the i7-4770k has the same number of cores as the i5-4670k?




You are aware that the fastest amd 8core still loses to 3770k or 4770k that has 4 cores in every single multithreaded benchmark ive ever seen. TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Of course, the FX-8350 and FX-9590 even isn't very good. The architecture of AMD CPUs hasn't changed significantly for years.
You said since it's optimized for 8 cores the guy should get an i7-4770k, but that's not a good reason. If we were going by number of cores, I'm sure some crappy AMD Opteron processor would "win" in number of cores, but a lot of things matter just as much as core count.I was merely pointing out that the number of cores isn't an argument in favor of the i7-4770k.

Watch Dogs isn't out yet. Chances are, the 8-core Broadwell CPUs will run it best. Upgrading to an i7 right now for Watch Dogs would be a bit pointless, since if it really "needs" 8 cores, nothing will run it well until Broadwell CPUs release. If it doesn't actually need 8 cores and they're just meant that to apply to AMD users, then any reasonably modern quad-core Intel CPU would handle it.

Personally, I'm guessing that "8 core requirement" is just for AMD users who need heavy multithreading to keep up.

You're going to get banned sooner or later if you keep calling anyone who disagrees with you a troll.
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