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October 17, 2013 6:00:03 AM

I am in need af a decent ehatsink/fan or maybe a liquid cooler. But what I need to know is How will the liquid cooling benefit I know if the room is moderatly cool then it is fine to go with a nice heatsink/fan setup but what about when it gets really hot, I can't afford to have A/C on all day so in that case would a good quality liquid cooler be better??

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October 17, 2013 6:15:07 AM

I use the Antec Kuler 920 for my FX-8120 @ 4.1, works like a charm. There is a cheaper 620 only difference is the 920 has the cool customizable LED on the Head unit and thicker radiator maybe an extra fan.(yes i am one of those idiots that paid double for the LED LOL!)
Check it out http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Kuhler-H2O-920-Liquid/dp/B0...

The link has both just have to click between 920 and 620 right under the price
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October 17, 2013 6:15:52 AM

Generally the air cooler will do better than any AIO water cooler. With the water coolers, you will eventually get to a point where the water cycling through the system will reach equilibrium. Meaning the rad and fan are unable to cool the water sufficiently before it heads back to the CPU. Basically, in the short term, the AIO water cooler can/will be more effective, but over the long term a quality air cooler will do better. Also, price to performance generally leans in favor of an air cooler.

I'm not saying AIO watercoolers are useless, they just serve a different purposes. I.e. if you don't have space for aftermarket air coolers in your case, the watercooler may fit and will probably be better than the stock coolers on all cpus. I have an Antec Kulher 620 in my case and over the stock heatsink on my Phenom 1090T, the temps are a lot lower. If I didn't get the watercooler on clearance, I would have gotten an air cooler.

A custom water cooling loop is a completely different story, but I don't think that is what you were talking about.
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October 17, 2013 6:53:00 AM

The better coolers will thermally out perform all but the biggest and loudest of the AIO coolers.

In the test below, with 2 extra fans added, the H100 took 1st place with a temp of 50C .... but "outta the box" with the two stock fans and all coolers using the same paste, the H100 came in at 52.5C. The Phanteks and Thermalright Silver Arrow with it's two stock fans comes in at 51C. The issue with the H series AIO's from Corsaie is noise .....

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_h100_hydro...

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When we look at the performance in more detail, the first thing to notice is that the Corsair H100 takes the top spot in our stock and overclocked charts. This is testament to Corsair’s quality. However, this performance comes at a cost; noise. At 2600RPM, the H100 isn’t a quiet unit at all and similarly at 2000RPM, it can still be quite intrusive. In terms of performance per noise, high end air coolers from Phanteks, Noctua and Thermalright still reign supreme, contrary to Corsair’s own marketing. Like other ALC units, the H100 relies too much on high RPM fans for its performance when the goal of water cooling is generally for extreme performance at low noise levels.


You can hear it here (skip to 50% CPU load which is about 1:30 mark):

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/03/12/swiftech-h220-vs...

The Antec Kuhlers and Swiftech ones are quite a bit quieter

Many peeps play games and with the volume turned up on speakers or headphones, they don't hear the vaccum cleaner level noise and it relieves concerns for those who ship or move their PC a lot where a sudden shock, they fear might damage a MoBo so they do have their uses.

AC or not.....ambient is ambient. Both types need it to cool.....It's all about Delta T. If ya room is up 5C in summer, then ya temps will be up close to 5C in summer.

Custom loops offer an option as you can mount the radiator remotely, say in basement, where it's cooler but few peeps generally want to get that involved.
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October 18, 2013 8:50:31 AM

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Generally the air cooler will do better than any AIO water cooler. With the water coolers, you will eventually get to a point where the water cycling through the system will reach equilibrium. Meaning the rad and fan are unable to cool the water sufficiently before it heads back to the CPU. Basically, in the short term, the AIO water cooler can/will be more effective, but over the long term a quality air cooler will do better. Also, price to performance generally leans in favor of an air cooler.

I'm not saying AIO watercoolers are useless, they just serve a different purposes. I.e. if you don't have space for aftermarket air coolers in your case, the watercooler may fit and will probably be better than the stock coolers on all cpus. I have an Antec Kulher 620 in my case and over the stock heatsink on my Phenom 1090T, the temps are a lot lower. If I didn't get the watercooler on clearance, I would have gotten an air cooler.

A custom water cooling loop is a completely different story, but I don't think that is what you were talking about.


Well I know very little about how to set up a water cooling system. I was basically wondeing if i were to overclock my i5 3570k to 4.5ghz would the a good quality Noctua heatsink/fan combo be enough to keep the cpu cool enough in a room that is roghly 20 to 25 degrees Celcius? I would imagine from the reviews that the Noctua ND H14 be good enough to keep it below 65 degees c on load????maybe?
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October 18, 2013 9:51:25 AM

Using this test for example ....

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...

At 25C .....i7-920 @ 4 GHz (218 watts compared with the 3570k's 119 watts @ 4.5 GHz)

The Phanteks would give ya 76.5C with 2 stock NFP-14 fans
The Silver Arrow would give ya 77.5 with 2 stock TR-TY140 fans
The Noctua DH-14 would give ya 78.5 with 2 stock NFP-14 fans

Again, keep in mind, the 3570k puts only 55% of the heat of a 920 so temps should be better.
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