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wich is better for multi tasking and gaming i5 4670k or fx 8320 ? :D
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  1. 4670K Beats AMD in virtually all games and draws less power. Even faster in BF 4.
  2. Depends on how much you want to spend. I5 would be optimal for Gaming. fx8xxx for multitasking alot. I'd say i5 will be enough.
  3. WarWolverineWarrior said:
    Depends on how much you want to spend. I5 would be optimal for Gaming. fx8xxx for multitasking alot. I'd say i5 will be enough.


    i will be gaming and alt+tabing all the time :D
  4. babernet_1 said:
    4670K Beats AMD in virtually all games and draws less power. Even faster in BF 4.


    yea but most people say amd is better for multi tasking :D
  5. i5 will beat AMDs best around the board. I think technically the AMD will be better at multitasking, but I would still go with the i5. Intel's architecture is so much more effecting than AMD's that the bulldozer can't keep up with the i5 even though they advertise a higher clock speed and more cores (but keep in mind it isn't truly 8 cores)
  6. Traemandir said:
    i5 will beat AMDs best around the board. I think technically the AMD will be better at multitasking, but I would still go with the i5. Intel's architecture is so much more effecting than AMD's that the bulldozer can't keep up with the i5 even though they advertise a higher clock speed and more cores (but keep in mind it isn't truly 8 cores)


    fanboy?
  7. miranche1 said:
    Traemandir said:
    i5 will beat AMDs best around the board. I think technically the AMD will be better at multitasking, but I would still go with the i5. Intel's architecture is so much more effecting than AMD's that the bulldozer can't keep up with the i5 even though they advertise a higher clock speed and more cores (but keep in mind it isn't truly 8 cores)


    fanboy?

    No, he's right. AMD will get the job done but Intel is faster that's why they don't need 8 core processors. ALT + Tabing is nothing. Multitasking is if you have 20+ programs open. So go for the gold and get the I5
  8. miranche1 said:
    fanboy?
    No, he's just speaking the truth:-
    http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-cpu-gpu-benchmarks/8/
  9. babernet_1 said:
    4670K Beats AMD in virtually all games and draws less power. Even faster in BF 4.


    BF4 is looking like a poor title for piledriver. the PD archetecture is pulling some very poor numbers, far worse then it should be generating in the BF4 beta... so it's not like you're that far off the mark

    As to the OP's question, the 8320 is better for multitasking... 8 logical cores vs 4, even if those 4 are a little better then 6 piledriver cores.

    as for gaming, it's no competition, unless the game is something like crysis3 or BF4, the i5 will be significantly better.
  10. WarWolverineWarrior said:
    miranche1 said:
    Traemandir said:
    i5 will beat AMDs best around the board. I think technically the AMD will be better at multitasking, but I would still go with the i5. Intel's architecture is so much more effecting than AMD's that the bulldozer can't keep up with the i5 even though they advertise a higher clock speed and more cores (but keep in mind it isn't truly 8 cores)


    fanboy?

    No, he's right. AMD will get the job done but Intel is faster that's why they don't need 8 core processors. ALT + Tabing is nothing. Multitasking is if you have 20+ programs open. So go for the gold and get the I5


    if i get an i5 im going to have to buy an shitty gpu im 13 i dont 1000 dollars xD
  11. miranche1 said:
    if i get an i5 im going to have to buy an shitty gpu im 13 i dont 1000 dollars xD


    that's a different question all together. If you are on a limited budget give us the number you're working with and we'll give you some gaming builds.
  12. fx 8320 will do the job just fine then. I don't get the point of your question. You should post another topic with help on a PC build. Plz include your budget.
  13. Well i've got like $400 for cpu,motherboard and gpu
  14. Calling someone a fanboy and being biased towards AMD, it sounds like you already want to get an AMD. Like others have said, post your total budget, not for just parts x, y, and z, and they will help you with a PC build.
  15. enemy1g said:
    Calling someone a fanboy and being biased towards AMD, it sounds like you already want to get an AMD. Like others have said, post your total budget, not for just parts x, y, and z, and they will help you with a PC build.


    can you just get the fuck out of here? i told the budget :D
  16. With that budget you need to buy and FX-6300, an decent 970 motherboard and a 7950. That is the best you will get, hands down no argument.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1MKWc
  17. What games are you trying to play, on what kind of monitor and what settings?
  18. if your on a budget, get the 8350, I've seen them at the $150 price point recently on a good deal. the best price I've seen for a 4670k is $200 at microcenter. both will serve you well... the 8350 is going to be slightly faster in certain programs that handle high thread counts, but is going to be ever so slightly slower in maxed out gaming compared to the 4670k. but if saving $50-80 by getting the 8350 nets you a higher tier graphics card, then that would be the way to go for gaming.


  19. Piledriver does poorly?? What...?
  20. hafijur said:
    nikoli707
    ..............
    Your forget the fx8350 takes over 100w higher power consumption has no igpu, igpu is great if you have mirillis action to record with intel quick sync with intel graphics card hd 4600 and the i5 4670k at same ghz is faster then fx8350 at virtually most multithreaded stuff and you will save money around £20 a year with intel jjust on electricity cost.


    No, we've been through this before, you will save about $3-4 per year.

    Stop lying through your teeth...
  21. yes at the same clocks, but all 8350's will do 5.0ghz with a simple hyper 212, the 4670k doesn't seem to like to go past 4.5ghz before a simple hyper 212 just doesn't cut it. a 5.0ghz 8350 will take a 4.5ghz 4670k on just about every heavy threaded application by about 10%
  22. i personally would get the $249 2500k+mobo+ram deal that micro center still has going, its by far the best bang for buck.
  23. hafijur said:
    At 5ghz the fx8350 would consume about 250w+ more then the i5 4670k at 4.5ghz and the i5 4670k would be on par with the fx8350 at 4.95ghz.


    LOL...this is so far out of the realm of reality.

    http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardware-discussion-support/223736-intel-core-i7-4770k-loaded-biostar-z87x-3d-overclocking-share.html

    4770k @ 4.5 GHz = 172W power consumption for CPU alone.

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/62166-amd-fx-9590-review-piledriver-5ghz-17.html

    FX 9590 @ 5.0 GHz = 249W

    Difference = 77W

    Where's your 250W difference? LOL...you lie through your teeth.
  24. Look if you are on a budget - then AMD is the way to go really... Fanboys can grind their teeth to dust trying to bury each other in lies and deceit, but one thing is clear and undeniable here - AMD is a better value, as in you get more performance per dollar spent until about FX-8320 included.
  25. hafijur said:
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/6
    200w seems more accurate then.
    double kilojoules for stock fx8350:
    http://techreport.com/review/23750/amd-fx-8350-processor-reviewed/4
    I finally found the link again:
    http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2289809
    Now a stock i7 3770k here uses at least 125w less then an fx8350 and according to him he thinks it is more due to leakage so an i5 4670k which should take about 15w less then the i7 3770k takes like 140w less on this scenario estimate while an fx9590 most like will take 200w more then an i7. Now whats more amazing is if you oc these intel cpus the power consumption barely goes up amd on the other hand past 4ghz it starts rocketing high.

    8350rocks how much does cinebench pull from the wall on your machine. My i5 4430 ia cores on cpu id hw monitor says 38w and it idles about 75w my pc and full load cpu is 105-110w. What does your fx8350 say at 4.4ghz then.

    Look at this fx8350:
    http://i.imgur.com/dDHBj.png
    What you don't get 8350rocks is intel have laptop cpus as fast as an i7 4770 or 3770 and you can oc laptop cpus to even more on high end cooling laptops.


    But you are talking about what... 100% load? That does not really happen much, even the much hyped BF4 does not load either CPU 100% so realistically you will never ever get to such a power usage gap between the two processors.

    Basically, it's peanuts really.
  26. hafijur said:
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/12/intel-core-i5-4670k-haswell-cpu-review/6
    200w seems more accurate then.
    double kilojoules for stock fx8350:
    http://techreport.com/review/23750/amd-fx-8350-processor-reviewed/4
    I finally found the link again:
    http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2289809
    Now a stock i7 3770k here uses at least 125w less then an fx8350 and according to him he thinks it is more due to leakage so an i5 4670k which should take about 15w less then the i7 3770k takes like 140w less on this scenario estimate while an fx9590 most like will take 200w more then an i7. Now whats more amazing is if you oc these intel cpus the power consumption barely goes up amd on the other hand past 4ghz it starts rocketing high.

    8350rocks how much does cinebench pull from the wall on your machine. My i5 4430 ia cores on cpu id hw monitor says 38w and it idles about 75w my pc and full load cpu is 105-110w. What does your fx8350 say at 4.4ghz then.

    Look at this fx8350:
    http://i.imgur.com/dDHBj.png
    What you don't get 8350rocks is intel have laptop cpus as fast as an i7 4770 or 3770 and you can oc laptop cpus to even more on high end cooling laptops. If you think I am joking look at this: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4930MX+%40+3.00GHz


    OC a laptop CPU??? WTF? That goes against the grain of buying a laptop all together.

    You're grasping at straws, so take your strawman arguments somewhere else.
  27. I really wish you two would stop it... Really, like children. Do you see OP asking about power usage or BF4 performance?

    All the dude wants is a decent, balanced CPU, motherboard and a GPU mix within 400$ for all... You people just go on and ruin this thread with your COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT crap.

    No hafijur - the guy could not care less about power consumption, so why the heck are you jumping in with that? Dear 8350rocks - he won't be playing BF4 with 64 people on map with a 400$ CPU+GPU+MB setup, so why pop with that table thing?

    You both just waste his time. Stop it.
  28. Gaidax said:
    I really wish you two would stop it... Really, like children. Do you see OP asking about power usage or BF4 performance?

    All the dude wants is a decent, balanced CPU, motherboard and a GPU mix within 400$ for all... You people just go on and ruin this thread with your COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT crap.

    No hafijur - the guy could not care less about power consumption, so why the heck are you jumping in with that? Dear 8350rocks - he won't be playing BF4 with 64 people on map with a 400$ CPU+GPU+MB setup, so why pop with that table thing?

    You both just waste his time. Stop it.


    Well, if max budget is $400, then the 4670k is most certainly out.

    $240 CPU +$120 MB + Tax is basically $400. Unless he finds a GPU on ebay for $20 that's worth bothering with.

    Your best bet for $400 is going to be the following:

    FX 8320 ~$150
    Asus M5A97 R2.0 ~$90
    Radeon HD 7850 2 GB ~$140

    That's going to be the best gaming rig you can get.

    If you want to go more GPU heavy do this:

    FX 6300 ~$120
    Asus M5A97 R2.0 ~$90
    Radeon HD 7870 ~$180
  29. I was thinking more like this:

    Phenom 2 X4 980 BE- 110$
    MSI-970A-G43 - 72$
    XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB - 210$

    GPU here is awesome, CPU is a bit weak, but still decent enough, motherboard supports Crossfire for future use.
  30. Intel version:

    Intel Core i3-3240 - 120&
    MSI B75MA-G43 - 70$
    XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB - 210$

    I think it is slightly better than the AMD one actually.
  31. 7950 for $160
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-131-499&Tpk=N82E16814131499

    thats a good deal..... but 7950's have been under $200 for about 3 months now... paying anything over that for a 7950 is just a flat out rip off... and forget the 760 for $250... the 7950 is +/- 3% performance wise in the most popular heavy graphics games. nvidia has had a major epic fail in the pricing of the 760 compared the equal 7950.
  32. hafijur said:
    nikoli707
    ..............
    Your forget the fx8350 takes over 100w higher power consumption has no igpu, igpu is great if you have mirillis action to record with intel quick sync with intel graphics card hd 4600 and the i5 4670k at same ghz is faster then fx8350 at virtually most multithreaded stuff and you will save money around £20 a year with intel jjust on electricity cost.


    8350rocks said:
    Gaidax said:
    I really wish you two would stop it... Really, like children. Do you see OP asking about power usage or BF4 performance?

    All the dude wants is a decent, balanced CPU, motherboard and a GPU mix within 400$ for all... You people just go on and ruin this thread with your COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT crap.

    No hafijur - the guy could not care less about power consumption, so why the heck are you jumping in with that? Dear 8350rocks - he won't be playing BF4 with 64 people on map with a 400$ CPU+GPU+MB setup, so why pop with that table thing?

    You both just waste his time. Stop it.


    Well, if max budget is $400, then the 4670k is most certainly out.

    $240 CPU +$120 MB + Tax is basically $400. Unless he finds a GPU on ebay for $20 that's worth bothering with.

    Your best bet for $400 is going to be the following:

    FX 8320 ~$150
    Asus M5A97 R2.0 ~$90
    Radeon HD 7850 2 GB ~$140

    That's going to be the best gaming rig you can get.

    If you want to go more GPU heavy do this:

    FX 6300 ~$120
    Asus M5A97 R2.0 ~$90
    Radeon HD 7870 ~$180


    Did everyone just miss my build with a 6300, asus 970 board and a 7950 ???
  33. cmi86 said:
    hafijur said:
    nikoli707
    ..............
    Your forget the fx8350 takes over 100w higher power consumption has no igpu, igpu is great if you have mirillis action to record with intel quick sync with intel graphics card hd 4600 and the i5 4670k at same ghz is faster then fx8350 at virtually most multithreaded stuff and you will save money around £20 a year with intel jjust on electricity cost.


    8350rocks said:
    Gaidax said:
    I really wish you two would stop it... Really, like children. Do you see OP asking about power usage or BF4 performance?

    All the dude wants is a decent, balanced CPU, motherboard and a GPU mix within 400$ for all... You people just go on and ruin this thread with your COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT crap.

    No hafijur - the guy could not care less about power consumption, so why the heck are you jumping in with that? Dear 8350rocks - he won't be playing BF4 with 64 people on map with a 400$ CPU+GPU+MB setup, so why pop with that table thing?

    You both just waste his time. Stop it.


    Well, if max budget is $400, then the 4670k is most certainly out.

    $240 CPU +$120 MB + Tax is basically $400. Unless he finds a GPU on ebay for $20 that's worth bothering with.

    Your best bet for $400 is going to be the following:

    FX 8320 ~$150
    Asus M5A97 R2.0 ~$90
    Radeon HD 7850 2 GB ~$140

    That's going to be the best gaming rig you can get.

    If you want to go more GPU heavy do this:

    FX 6300 ~$120
    Asus M5A97 R2.0 ~$90
    Radeon HD 7870 ~$180


    Did everyone just miss my build with a 6300, asus 970 board and a 7950 ???


    LOL...yes...I think we all did.

    That would be a great solution. Better CPU than i3, best GPU for the money out there right now, and a solid MB.
  34. WarWolverineWarrior said:
    What games are you trying to play, on what kind of monitor and what settings?


    well i want to play all these new games that are coming watch dogs gta5 bf4 etc :D
  35. nikoli707 said:
    if your on a budget, get the 8350, I've seen them at the $150 price point recently on a good deal. the best price I've seen for a 4670k is $200 at microcenter. both will serve you well... the 8350 is going to be slightly faster in certain programs that handle high thread counts, but is going to be ever so slightly slower in maxed out gaming compared to the 4670k. but if saving $50-80 by getting the 8350 nets you a higher tier graphics card, then that would be the way to go for gaming.


    i checked the fuckin store here in macedonia and they didnt have 8350 only 8320 :@
  36. Gaidax said:
    I really wish you two would stop it... Really, like children. Do you see OP asking about power usage or BF4 performance?

    All the dude wants is a decent, balanced CPU, motherboard and a GPU mix within 400$ for all... You people just go on and ruin this thread with your COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT crap.

    No hafijur - the guy could not care less about power consumption, so why the heck are you jumping in with that? Dear 8350rocks - he won't be playing BF4 with 64 people on map with a 400$ CPU+GPU+MB setup, so why pop with that table thing?

    You both just waste his time. Stop it.


    thank you for saying this :D haha
  37. guys i cant buy online they dont deliver here in macedonia :/ http://set.com.mk/index.php?route=product/category&path=1003_17#category_id=17&page=6&path=1003_17&sort=p.price&order=ASC&limit=20&min_price=359&max_price=49990 this is the store where i want to buy the gpu you can look at the gpus and suggest :D
  38. i was thinking on getting 8320 and hd 7770 1gbd5 and then buy another gpu the same and do crossfire if it is called like that im a bit noob on these things this is my first build :/ but i cant manage to find an mobo that supports cf -.-
  39. miranche1 said:
    i was thinking on getting 8320 and hd 7770 1gbd5 and then buy another gpu the same and do crossfire if it is called like that im a bit noob on these things this is my first build :/ but i cant manage to find an mobo that supports cf -.-


    A 970 series MB should support CF, however, I would recommend one better GPU over 2 lesser GPUs. For the $200+ it would cost you to buy 2 HD 7770s, you would be better off with something like a HD 7870 or HD 7950, or R9-270X
  40. Get a FX 6300, 6350, or 8320 if you can and get a solid aftermarket cooler to go with it.
    The HD 7950 is one of the best gaming values right now. I highly recommend it.
  41. yea but the 7870 is $280
  42. miranche1 said:
    yea but the 7870 is $280


    What about a 7850?
  43. here in macedonia it is twice the hd 7770
  44. You should obviously go with intel i5 4670k .In single-threaded applications, the i5-4670K CPU has 69% better performance than fx 8320, 10% faster in multi-threaded tasks and Graphics performance of the Intel i5-4670K is higher.In addition to 4 CPU cores, the processor has integrated HD 4600 GPU. This GPU replaces low-end graphics card, and thus lowers the cost of the system and Power consumption of the microprocessor is lower.
    SO,
    intel i5 4670k is far better than fx 8320
  45. harkishensingh said:
    You should obviously go with intel i5 4670k .In single-threaded applications, the i5-4670K CPU has 69% better performance than fx 8320, 10% faster in multi-threaded tasks and Graphics performance of the Intel i5-4670K is higher.In addition to 4 CPU cores, the processor has integrated HD 4600 GPU. This GPU replaces low-end graphics card, and thus lowers the cost of the system and Power consumption of the microprocessor is lower.
    SO,
    intel i5 4670k is far better than fx 8320


    dude if i get an i5 im going to get an shitty gpu
  46. harkishensingh said:
    You should obviously go with intel i5 4670k .In single-threaded applications, the i5-4670K CPU has 69% better performance than fx 8320, 10% faster in multi-threaded tasks and Graphics performance of the Intel i5-4670K is higher.In addition to 4 CPU cores, the processor has integrated HD 4600 GPU. This GPU replaces low-end graphics card, and thus lowers the cost of the system and Power consumption of the microprocessor is lower.
    SO,
    intel i5 4670k is far better than fx 8320


    You're overlooking budget. That would eat up his entire budget for the build by buying that CPU + MB.
  47. ps. the power consumption isnt a problem :D
  48. miranche1 said:
    ps. the power consumption isnt a problem :D


    It never is a problem, some people just like to make it seem like it should be...often times it is the people who claim their CPU is so efficient, but yet, they run 2-3 GPU setups with several 250-300W GPUs that draw as much power as an air conditioning unit.
  49. 8350rocks said:
    miranche1 said:
    ps. the power consumption isnt a problem :D


    It never is a problem, some people just like to make it seem like it should be...often times it is the people who claim their CPU is so efficient, but yet, they run 2-3 GPU setups with several 250-300W GPUs that draw as much power as an air conditioning unit.


    should i get an amd athlon II x4 760k and then get an 7870 ?
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