Whats your thoughts on Nvidia "G-Sync"

Xlack · Oct 18, 2013

Whats your thoughts on Nvidia "G-Sync" that was just released at the Nvidia conference?
Do you think its actually useful?
Worth the cost?

houldendub · Oct 18, 2013

Would love to see it in action! I think I just got super lucky as I was about to buy a new monitor today! PHEW!

For anyone who's interested, there's a live updating blog over at AnandTech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7432/nvidia-montreal-event-live-blog

And Pcper are streaming via Twitch:

http://www.twitch.tv/pcper

I'd love to provide a Toms link but we all know this won't be up here until next year...

Xlack · Oct 18, 2013

houldendub :

I'm an AMD GPU fanboy and I've never actually came across horrible tearing or video lagg or I just haven't noticed it. Maybe with Mantle support coming to games it will reduce it.

houldendub · Oct 18, 2013

Xlack :

Huh, I mean, try playing Counter Strike with and without Vsync, it's night and day. Stuttering won't really happen on single card configs, but tearing does.

For us that actually do notice it, this is huge.

Xlack · Oct 18, 2013

Yes it is huge! But a G-Sync monitor will be on the higher price range. Mantle is built into AMD GPU's and is a fix for FPS/tearing G-sync is just a work around. (These are just my opinions)

bystander · Oct 18, 2013

G-sync makes a lot more sense. This is similar to v-sync, but instead of the display controlling when frames are delivered, the GPU sets the pace. This means that you can prevent tearing without causing latency, and having FPS below your monitors max refresh rate no longer results in stuttering.

renz496 · Oct 18, 2013

Xlack :

maybe i got it wrong but did you suggest that Mantle will be able to fix tearing issue on the monitors when v-sync being turn off?

bystander · Oct 18, 2013

He's out of his gourd if he thinks mantle has anything to do with tearing.

Xlack · Oct 18, 2013

bystander :

As of right now no one really knows what Mantle will be able to do, Now that Nvidia has the G-Sync AMD with work with developers to get Mantle to do something similar. Since the next gen consoles are all using AMD Mantle will be the "Hidden guns" for AMD over Nvidia.

renz496 · Oct 18, 2013

the tech seems nice but i think nvidia need to open the tech to other gpu vendor if they hope this tech to go mainstream. if it go mainstream it might benefit both gamer and game developer.

Mark Rein was standing next to me during a demonstration and was clearly excited about the potential for developers to increase visual quality without worrying about hitting a 60 FPS cap 100% of the time.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-G-Sync-Death-Refresh-Rate/Potential-Benefits-New-Interface

Xlack · Oct 18, 2013

renz496 :

They will keep it too themselves, It causes more competition. Now that AMD has the console side Nvidia is trying to grab the PC side.

bystander · Oct 18, 2013

Xlack :

Mantle is an API to allow for closer to the hardware calls on GCN cards. It does not magically make new technologies. AMD may add features to support monitors like this, but they also have to modify current monitors or at least be compatible with new G-sync monitors.

Mantle is code.
G-sync is code and hardware.

renz496 · Oct 18, 2013

Xlack :

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/appbuilder/archive/2013/10/14/raising-the-bar-with-direct3d.aspx

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-api-xbox-one-directx-11.2,24691.html

no official statement from sony yet but they might do the same as MS

also about G-Sync. from what i can understand the custom chip inside the monitor was made so the monitor can act together with the gpu. Mantle alone won't solve that because amd gpu still acting independently with monitor. to have something similar amd needs to create their own version of G-Sync and make deals with the panel maker so to put their custom chip on it

-Fran- · Oct 18, 2013

I have to say it is interesting, but since its coming from nVidia, I know they'll keep it a closed proprietary thing for them only.

Hope they prove me wrong, but I hate closed standards when they could benefit all of us by making them open (it's a different business strategy, that's all).

Cheers!

bystander · Oct 18, 2013

It sounds like, from this article, that this can be done from an add on kit to existing VG248QE monitors: http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-G-Sync-Death-Refresh-Rate/Potential-Benefits-New-Interface

That means AMD could very easily create a similar setup. I really hope so, because refresh rates aren't needed with LCD's.

17seconds · Oct 18, 2013

Looking forward to the GTX 780 Ti and whatever other new releases Nvidia has up its sleeve.

monsta · Oct 18, 2013

17seconds :

Likewise , I love the competition , I'm really hoping they also release a 790 or a dual Titan!

Xlack · Oct 20, 2013

monsta :

Dual Titan would be soo over board! would be cool to see though. 4 Dual Titans in SLI

monsta · Oct 20, 2013

Xlack :

monsta :

Dual Titan would be soo over board! would be cool to see though. 4 Dual Titans in SLI

Hehe I know right!

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