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October 18, 2013 4:35:04 PM

I've been reading the other posts, & have seen that the benchmarks show to be a little better between the HD 7870 & the GTX 660, however when doing a comparison of the GTX 660's on Newegg, I have noticed there are a big difference between the specs of each one.

The cheapest one, which also appears to have the better specs, is the same as the second GTX 660, listed below. The Core Clock is just a hair lower then the HD 7870, but the Memory Clock, & Interface are much higher.

Here are the links:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am currently updating my system to the Asus Sabertooth X79 & i7 4820k. I was thinking I may want to upgrade my video card at the same time, even though I am currently running the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465 1GB. Is it worth spending the extra to upgrade it also?

Thanks in advance!

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October 18, 2013 7:08:50 PM

Hmm I've never used HIS before & I've never even heard of XFX. MSI or Saphire seem as though they would be more reliable. Personally I have always used NVIDIA cards & GeForce. I've never had a problem with a single one.
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October 18, 2013 7:32:06 PM

7870 over the gt660 in terms of performance i had a msi 7870 hawk edition and it was rock solid for the money but i would be going with the 7950 his but even then i would save a little more and get the newer amd and nvidia series

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

there the cards i would choose over your recomendations, very hard time to be choosing a graphics card :D 
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a c 513 U Graphics card
October 18, 2013 7:37:26 PM

Yeah, especially since new tech is coming out in a matter of months :D 

I would still recommend the HIS/XFX 7950 over the 270x at that price point since the 270x is just a beefed up 7870 :p 
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October 18, 2013 8:55:57 PM

yes i was just telling him i would choose them over his cards he was going to choose from if i was going for something in the 280x bracket i would go for the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... has 3modes overclock silent and gaming and im pretty sure it has the same fans as my gtx680 lightning so twin 10cm fan setup pushes alot of air
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a c 513 U Graphics card
October 18, 2013 9:02:29 PM

^+1, can't go wrong with a twinfrozr card
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October 19, 2013 3:21:31 PM

All the above cards are so close to each other it's really making it hard to decide & figure out which is the best. Unfortunately they are out of stock on the MSI card.

Best for the buck it's looking like these two are my best bets thow. I have just found a new "Deal" they are running. I am also getting new memory from them, & both of these cards offer a combo deal, so I can save an extra $25, by getting them.

This new one I found is only 2 Gig, instead of 3 Gig, & 256-bit vs 384-bit, but I think it's benchmarks are better, unless I am wrong, & with the special they are running, it's only $51 more :D 

Edit: Well maybe I am better off with the HD 7970 after all. It's just a little cheaper & a hair faster according to the benchmarks below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Gaming/2...

Thanks again guys!
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October 19, 2013 6:10:31 PM

yeah 7970 has plenty of drivers to get it to where it is i would assume you would see better drivers come out for the 280x which would make it probably 10%+ faster in the end that 680 is a good deal my 680 lightning still beats gtx770's in benchmarks so thats why i havent bothered upgrading yet!
wow!!!! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 19, 2013 8:02:14 PM

Ya I saw that one also. The thing I was surprised about, when doing a comparison, that one's CC is only 880, & the Mem Clock is only 1250. It's lower than any of the others.

So you think the Asus GTX680 would be better then the Sapphire HD 7970? All I've ever used is NVIDIA so I don't know how the two compare.
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October 19, 2013 8:58:57 PM

well my 680 stock clocks are 1111mhz boost's to 1228mhz and i just adjusted memory to 7000mhz which is really good! the thing that 7970 has over 680 is that vram 3gb vs 2gb but you can get 4gb 680 versions
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October 20, 2013 1:05:04 PM

Well chit... This isn't helping...lol :p  (not your guys fault)

I don't play all those different games roland so I don't know if the HD 7970 would be better then the GTX 680. I have one MMORPG game atm I play, & in all actuality, my GTX 465 1 Gig is good enough for it. I was just thinking it would be better to update my graphics card since I am updating my CPU to a i7-4820k & getting a Asus X79 Sabertooth. I've been running Win XP 32 bit, but since I'm going to do this upgrade I'm finally going to upgrade to Win 7 Pro 64 bit, & 16 Gig 2133 memory. So I figured I should update the graphics card so it wouldn't be slower then the rest of the system. Of course I know that the cards come, in 2,3 & 4 Gig, however I imagine the price for the 4 Gig would be a lot more. Originally I was thinking about getting the GTX 660 but then I figured it would probably be worth paying a little more to get one of these.

Now I'm just not sure which one. Like I said I was thinking one of the two I listed would work best, also because I get an extra $25 off, due to the combo purchase of the G.Skill Ripjaws Memory.

Also the Asus GTX 680 has 10% off that ends today along with a rebate. The only downside is that it is 2 Gig instead of 3. The Sapphire works out to be cheaper anyways though.

I found the Benchmarks listed on here but they don't list either the GTX 680 or the HD 7970.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 2:15:20 PM

With the prices of the cards vs the power, might look to the 280X, maybe the Asus CU or Matrix then possible XFire when prices drop
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October 20, 2013 2:39:21 PM

Thanks Tradesman. Was looking at those too at the start. I have two of them, in my compare list also, out of the 5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Just to list them all again here are the other 3 in order of preference:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you have a better recommendation please let me know.

Also if you are saying, "when prices drop", does that mean I'm okay using my GTX 465 1 Gig, for now?
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 2:47:39 PM

That's another way to go, prices have alrady dropped some on the 78xx series and probably see more on the 79xx when the 290X comes out, then nVidia is gearing up a 770TI and who knows what all else ;) 
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 5:09:23 PM

Yep, based on arly sales it looks to be the dfan favorite, think the Egg has already sold out twice (actually of both this and the higher priced Asus 280X Matrix
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a c 513 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 5:11:18 PM

For that much performance at that price level, it's easy to see why aye :D 
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 6:28:12 PM

1100 (I think base clock) and have seen report of OCs over 1200
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October 20, 2013 6:31:10 PM

Yes 1100 vs 1070 on the other one. Everything else is pretty much the same.
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October 20, 2013 6:37:30 PM

triple slot i think the matrix is would be hard trying to crossfire i would be looking at dual slots!
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October 20, 2013 6:39:25 PM

I just saw someone selling one on eBay for that exact reason :p 

Talk about going back & forth here...lol
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October 20, 2013 6:49:24 PM

It's sounding like it boils down to do I wait for prices to drop some, when the new cards come out, so I can get a better card, & just use my GTX 465 for now, or do I get one these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Unless I am better off with the Gigabyte or Sapphire R9 280X.

Hopefully this narrows the choice down enough ;) 
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October 20, 2013 7:04:01 PM

if your happy with the 465's performance i would hold out and wait and see because 780ti was showcased at nvidia's show yesterday or the day before to compete with the 290x http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/17-gaming-benchmarks-lea... so i guess its going to be even more of a harder time trying to figure out a card to select by then but atleast they will be cheaper!!!
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 7:05:15 PM

Nice combo on the Asus 680 (great card) and the RJ Xs, I've used a bunch of those sets, got the 32GB set in Sandy Bridge rig
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October 20, 2013 7:12:54 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Nice combo on the Asus 680 (great card) and the RJ Xs, I've used a bunch of those sets, got the 32GB set in Sandy Bridge rig


That's what I was thinking. Not only is there a $30 rebate, on the card, they also are doing 10% off, which is another $38. That ends today. One reason I am trying to decide fast. Plus the combo saves me another $25. So it would be $511.98 for both the card & the RJs.

The only downside to this card was that it's only 2 Gig & 256-Bit
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 7:16:33 PM

Great deal! Thig like that are hard to pass up ;) 
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October 20, 2013 7:38:43 PM

Not to beat this to death but just want to make sure I understand this right. Even though it's only 256-bit vs 384-bit, & 2 Gig vs 3 Gig, it's still faster & better then the other cards we went through, since it's a GTX680 vs a HD 7970 or R9 280X?
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October 20, 2013 7:53:32 PM

I just remembered. What about the Crossfire? Is that something I will be needing?
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 8:11:52 PM

Yeah CrossFire is AMD , the 680 is nVidia and uses SLI which is a much stabler platform for dual or Tri GPUs
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a c 513 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 8:15:09 PM

hwcompare isn't that great to compare actual performance, you should look at real game benchmarks to see real world performance, you may experience some microstuttering with CrossFire
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 8:19:29 PM

As was said, it's just basics at stock settings, OCing comes with the pre OC and the actual OC you put on it, as far as reviews, that too depends on whose writing it, have seen so many reviews from people who had no idea what they were talking about let alone what they were doing it isn't funny - well actually it is, some of the folks I network with often bring up reiews that are particularly humerous
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a c 513 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 8:20:16 PM

^Any examples so we can have a good laugh? :D 
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 8:46:37 PM

Some are sort of common, folks writing reviews on higher end DRAM often complain that when installed they had to set it to the correct freq - apparently the 'experts' don't know that on install DRAM is set to the mobos default, or on same subject they complain they enabled DRAM and the sticks don't set the correct spec timings, again, the 'experts' appear to believe that DRAM can magically set things up, they don't realize the info in the SPD is just that, simply info..it's up to the BIOS to take and implement that info, and BIOSs often aren't ready for newer or higher end sticks and have to go as close as possible to the info in the SPD, that's also what the majority of BIOS updates are, they consist of DRAM updates for the BIOS....or they mention loading a component on a mobo and having problems - yet they mention they loaded the drivers from the CD that came with the mobo - they don't realize that about 9 times out of 10 when you get a mobo the drivers on the CD are already outdated - same with GPUs????? These kind of things, which are all to common, make me look at many reviews with a jaded eye.....
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a c 513 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 8:52:51 PM

^Thanks, learnt something new about BIOS :D , haha yeah when installing a new part like the GPU always download the latest drivers (provided that they are stable).
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October 20, 2013 8:57:05 PM

I guess that means only the Memory is better on the HD 7970 so I should go ahead & get the GTX680.

Ah Crossfire is AMD's version of SLI. Don't think I'll have much of a need for that. I was curious you had to use the same cards when doing that and/or if there was any benefit to running SLI with my GTX465. Not really familiar with what it does other then link the two cards together.

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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 8:59:52 PM

Basically you get the processing power of them at the same time - though you only use the memory from the lead card, so if you have two 2GB cards, you still only use 2GB of DRAM but double (almost) the processing power
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a c 513 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 9:01:42 PM

There could be some issues regarding drivers and game compatibility, but once you fiddle around a bit the performance gain should be worth your while
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October 20, 2013 9:06:25 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Some are sort of common, folks writing reviews on higher end DRAM often complain that when installed they had to set it to the correct freq - apparently the 'experts' don't know that on install DRAM is set to the mobos default, or on same subject they complain they enabled DRAM and the sticks don't set the correct spec timings, again, the 'experts' appear to believe that DRAM can magically set things up, they don't realize the info in the SPD is just that, simply info..it's up to the BIOS to take and implement that info, and BIOSs often aren't ready for newer or higher end sticks and have to go as close as possible to the info in the SPD, that's also what the majority of BIOS updates are, they consist of DRAM updates for the BIOS....


Or they don't bothering setting the DRAM timings up in BIOS & can't figure out why it won't read right. Then, like you were saying, they think the DRAM is defective, because it doesn't show the right type, & speed, under the SPD info. Then others simply fail to flash the BIOS ;) 
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 9:34:35 PM

It's your pockets ;)  or what's in your pockets...think you'll be happy either way to be honest !
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a c 437 U Graphics card
October 20, 2013 9:37:33 PM

Raz_Man said:
Tradesman1 said:
Some are sort of common, folks writing reviews on higher end DRAM often complain that when installed they had to set it to the correct freq - apparently the 'experts' don't know that on install DRAM is set to the mobos default, or on same subject they complain they enabled DRAM and the sticks don't set the correct spec timings, again, the 'experts' appear to believe that DRAM can magically set things up, they don't realize the info in the SPD is just that, simply info..it's up to the BIOS to take and implement that info, and BIOSs often aren't ready for newer or higher end sticks and have to go as close as possible to the info in the SPD, that's also what the majority of BIOS updates are, they consist of DRAM updates for the BIOS....


Or they don't bothering setting the DRAM timings up in BIOS & can't figure out why it won't read right. Then, like you were saying, they think the DRAM is defective, because it doesn't show the right type, & speed, under the SPD info. Then others simply fail to flash the BIOS ;) 

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Interesting point you bring upo, I work a lot with the folks at GSKill, and they told me a few months back, that about 85% of all the sticks that are RMAed, have nothing wrong with them, it's from folks that don't realize they have to set them up and in particular, people just buying stick to add to existing DRAM they already have which is never a good idea
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