Sata HDD to Ata HDD to SSD? (clones)

yanis31 · Oct 19, 2013

Hi all,
my good old WD ~160gb HDD decided to smoke itself and stop working today with all my win8 installation and work files on it,
conveniently ~2 hours before then i made a backup (clone) of entire hard drive to a old matrox ATA drive using Acronis true image 2014... (Sheesh!)

- trouble - i need to run to the store and get a proper hard drive asap -
SSD sounds like a great thing to get since i will be upgrading to that later anyway -
but my guess is i won't be able to clone this drive to it will i?

if i'm stuck i will just get another WD HDD... this one was a caviar that lasted ~5years and i was messing with modular cables from a different brand PSU today - maybe that's why it burned, don't know, not touching those again)

(*can't do clean windows8 install since i have important stuff in this backup that i can't reinstall myself without major hassle)

motherboard: msi G41M-P26

13thmonkey · Oct 19, 2013

what do you not think you can copy from an ata drive to an ssd. there'll be no problem with that at all. they are all just drives, do you have the restore disk though?

if not install windows on the new disk, create the restore disk and then restore onto the new disk wiping out the first installation.

yanis31 · Oct 19, 2013

13thmonkey :

i have encrypted and password protected firefox certificates installed by work sysadmin that i can't access myself. windows reinstall will wipe them out - but tell me about the restore disc - do you think this is something that could keep them? - i have done this with windows7 repair - going through the upgrade option in setup dvd and it kept all installations and certificates intact...

yanis31 · Oct 19, 2013

ok i cant find any info if the windows repair feature allows to install to a different drive but my guess is no. it just repairs the actual installation on the disk, and also i would need the AHCI enabled to clone my hdd to ssd - can anyeone comfirm this? heck - i don't even see that anywhere in the bios so my guess this board only has IDE option for sata? - looks like i need to get a big hdd that ill use as storage when i get everything new with a ssd boot drive....

13thmonkey · Oct 19, 2013

you need to build the restore disk to access the backup.

so you install windows so that you can create the restore disk. you then use the restore disk to restore the backup wiping out the new installation, your old installation is then what is installed.

yanis31 · Oct 19, 2013

sorry that im so confusing (haven't slept all night)
in short - since i have my windows8 dvd i create a backup from my current installation (the one i saved on the old ata drive) and that's all i need to restore a backup on the new drive?

Does the AHCI thing become irrelevant in this case??

13thmonkey · Oct 19, 2013

NO.

in order to access a backup you need a restore disk, although the win8 dvd might double as this.

AHCI would be good to set on the SSD, but it might only be an option once you have installed a device that can use it

yanis31 · Oct 19, 2013

yes but my motherboard Doesn't even have a AHCI option to set,
i jsut read ii's necessary to clone a HDD to SSD for trim purposes yes - the installation dvd doubles as the restore disk,
however i created the backup clone using acronis true image which is more superior backup software, a clone is not compressed in any way - it's a raw double that is being created before windows boots, i am typing this on my cloned windows installation right now, but this hdd is small/ slow and old so i can't use it,
if the AHCI is not an issue i suppose i could easily follow the windows compressed route as well... but is it?

13thmonkey · Oct 19, 2013

you'll be ok without trim, the garbage collection is good enough. What mobo? use cpu-z to get the model name

yanis31 · Oct 19, 2013

i meantioned it in the first post actually

but here you go:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G41M-P26.html
so do you think it would actually work?
i wouldn't be going for no extreme performance benefits until the whole rig is replaced with something 2013-ish anway...

13thmonkey · Oct 19, 2013

your manual isn't helpful is it.

popatim · Oct 19, 2013

Garbage collection on the newer drives is very good IMO.
You shouldn't have a problem cloning back the the ssd and you can always swtich to ahci mode afterwards if its even an option in your bios.

yanis31 · Oct 20, 2013

can you guys recommend a ~120 to 256 gb ssd?
(i have very few programs, just a few games omn the pc)

im kinda leaning to the kingston hyperx's or samsungs but i haven't been following the latest trends and controllers... i remember people been recommending sandforce for a long time ... then some said indilynx... in short -what's what?

in a performance vs reliability war i would lean more towards reliability - in the last 10 years ive had 4 or 5 hdd's die on me and ssd's are a whole new beast...

13thmonkey · Oct 20, 2013

samsung evo, i'm running a 128 crucial M4, and a 512 vertex4 (refurb).

popatim · Oct 20, 2013

All the newer breed of drive seems to be very reliable so far. Samsungs seem to rank the best and the 840 comes in three flavors the 840, the 840 evo, and the 840 pro. The evo is the current sweet spot.

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