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October 19, 2013 4:15:07 AM

Hey i'am building my first computer soon and i'am deciding on what to get. My budget is 1065 euro at the moment but I'am still saving for 1170 euro so I can buy this build. I want to know if I should get an I7 3770K or I7 4770K? Will my cooler be good enough if i want to overclock? and if there's anything i could get different (excluding the processor and graphics card) that would make my build cheaper but still good? I will be doing lots of gaming and rendering with this build if your wondering. Also whats your opinion on the case? I was going to go with a cooler maser cm storm scout but it's out of my budget. Will all my parts fit in it and is there any alternative for the same price?

Specs:

Processor: Intel Core i7-4770K S1150 3.5GHz 8MB Haswell Quad Core Processor

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 1111MHz 2GB PCI-E 3.0 HDMI SuperClocked

MoBo: Asus Z87-PLUS S1150 Intel Z87 DDR3 ATX

Ram: Corsair Vengeance Pro 8gb 1600Mhz

PSU: XFX 750W XXX Edition ProSeries Semi-Modular 80+ Bronze

Storage: Seagate 1TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 64MB 7200RPM Hard Drive

Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo - 4 Heatpipe, Tower CPU Cooler

Case: Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case

Thanks to anybody who can help!
October 19, 2013 7:33:47 AM

Go i7 4770k, even though the i7 3770k is clocked faster and some people will say it is faster than 4770k, the truth is the Haswell based 4770k is actually 10% faster in gaming than it and is a much better performer. Only down side is that it gets pretty hot once overclocked with stock cooler which drawbacks people who can't afford a cooler in their build, Good for you and you already have a really good CPU cooler in your build so that leaves you with only one conclusion 4770k. Your CPU cooler will keep that CPU cool all day and it is a very very good cooler for overclocking. You can take the 4770k with the Hyper212 EVO and clock it up to 4.5GHz without any heat problems. The Ram is really good and the heatspreader on the PRO series is really good for overclocking in case of the future. The Graphics card is really good for gaming on All the really popular games because of Nvidia's support for games and that is why i recommend it over AMD for gaming. Motherboard is really good and in the future you will have the space to get a second 770 if you ever wanted to in 2 years time. The Case- It is OK but i would recommend a Cooler Master HAF 912, but it does have one drawback the white in the case but it is high air flow which means that it has really good cooling and ventilation for heat dissipation. The case is really your own decision which fits your own needs but either case you choose it won't really make a performance increase to your build overall, just cooling which can be good if you have a really hot PC which yours won't. I would leave your PC and it will be a really good addition for gaming and rendering. Cooling and gaming won't be an issue as the components you have chosen are fine and really good components for gaming at this current date. If you have any other enquires then just ask.
October 19, 2013 7:44:56 AM

an i5-4670K is enough for gaming
get gtx 770 4GB instead of 2GB gpu memory
the rest of the rig is super!
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October 20, 2013 4:09:33 AM

badboyrog said:
an i5-4670K is enough for gaming
get gtx 770 4GB instead of 2GB gpu memory
the rest of the rig is super!


ill be doing rendering too so that's why am leaning towards I7. The 4gb is abit much for my budget.
October 20, 2013 4:18:32 AM

unknownofprob said:
Go i7 4770k, even though the i7 3770k is clocked faster and some people will say it is faster than 4770k, the truth is the Haswell based 4770k is actually 10% faster in gaming than it and is a much better performer. Only down side is that it gets pretty hot once overclocked with stock cooler which drawbacks people who can't afford a cooler in their build, Good for you and you already have a really good CPU cooler in your build so that leaves you with only one conclusion 4770k. Your CPU cooler will keep that CPU cool all day and it is a very very good cooler for overclocking. You can take the 4770k with the Hyper212 EVO and clock it up to 4.5GHz without any heat problems. The Ram is really good and the heatspreader on the PRO series is really good for overclocking in case of the future. The Graphics card is really good for gaming on All the really popular games because of Nvidia's support for games and that is why i recommend it over AMD for gaming. Motherboard is really good and in the future you will have the space to get a second 770 if you ever wanted to in 2 years time. The Case- It is OK but i would recommend a Cooler Master HAF 912, but it does have one drawback the white in the case but it is high air flow which means that it has really good cooling and ventilation for heat dissipation. The case is really your own decision which fits your own needs but either case you choose it won't really make a performance increase to your build overall, just cooling which can be good if you have a really hot PC which yours won't. I would leave your PC and it will be a really good addition for gaming and rendering. Cooling and gaming won't be an issue as the components you have chosen are fine and really good components for gaming at this current date. If you have any other enquires then just ask.


I would get the CoolerMaster HAF 932 Advanced USB 3.0, ATX Case but id have to do a bit more saving and i'am not sure if its worth it that much.
October 20, 2013 7:36:37 AM

The i5 can hang with the i7 in gaming but the i7 is significantly better in rendering.

You could benefit from more ram and you would see an improvement with 1866 or 2133 over the 1600.

What this build really neeeeeeeeeeds is an SSD (or two) :) 
October 20, 2013 7:45:25 AM

CTurbo said:
The i5 can hang with the i7 in gaming but the i7 is significantly better in rendering.

You could benefit from more ram and you would see an improvement with 1866 or 2133 over the 1600.

What this build really neeeeeeeeeeds is an SSD (or two) :) 


I plan on getting an ssd in a couple of months after i get this build.
October 20, 2013 8:19:32 AM

what do you mean by rendering?... multitasking , video editing???
October 20, 2013 9:02:22 AM

badboyrog said:
what do you mean by rendering?... multitasking , video editing???


Yeah I mean video editing and multitasking
October 20, 2013 9:17:00 AM

1. You probably need like 16 GB of RAM for rendering stuff. 8GB is way too less for that work.

2. Go for the AMD 280X. it performs the same as the Nvidia 770 but is significantly cheaper.

3. Also look for the Bitfenix Shinobi, it is a very good case for just a little more price.

4. Also you can take your CPU to like 4.0 to 4.2 Ghz with that CPU cooler, so it is a pretty good CPU cooler for the price.

These are my suggestions.
October 20, 2013 10:56:22 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
1. You probably need like 16 GB of RAM for rendering stuff. 8GB is way too less for that work.

2. Go for the AMD 280X. it performs the same as the Nvidia 770 but is significantly cheaper.

3. Also look for the Bitfenix Shinobi, it is a very good case for just a little more price.

4. Also you can take your CPU to like 4.0 to 4.2 Ghz with that CPU cooler, so it is a pretty good CPU cooler for the price.

These are my suggestions.


I plan on getting 16gb in a few months. I won't be to heavy with the video editing straight away so that's why i'am only getting 8 for now.
And yes I decided to go with the 280x today!
October 20, 2013 12:43:40 PM

''Yeah I mean video editing and multitasking''

in that case...YES better to go with I7..

October 20, 2013 12:45:12 PM

''Yeah I mean video editing and multitasking''

in that case...YES better to go with I7-4770K


October 20, 2013 1:11:02 PM

Also what about case? Go for a better case if possible. NZXT Source 210, Corsair 300R, Antec GX 700, Bitfenix Merc Alpha, Bitfenix Shinobi, etc are some other good alternatives that I have no problem recommending over the Zamlan Z11.

The Zalman cases are good but they are not really meant for high end builds like the one you are building.
October 25, 2013 10:10:07 PM

SWAGMASTER said:
Sangeet Khatri said:
1. You probably need like 16 GB of RAM for rendering stuff. 8GB is way too less for that work.

2. Go for the AMD 280X. it performs the same as the Nvidia 770 but is significantly cheaper.

3. Also look for the Bitfenix Shinobi, it is a very good case for just a little more price.

4. Also you can take your CPU to like 4.0 to 4.2 Ghz with that CPU cooler, so it is a pretty good CPU cooler for the price.

These are my suggestions.


I plan on getting 16gb in a few months. I won't be to heavy with the video editing straight away so that's why i'am only getting 8 for now.
And yes I decided to go with the 280x today!


The 280x is just a 7970 but been clocked higher, A 7970 OC'd will be exactly the same but for less. The HAF 932 is a perfect example of a really good case to get, High Air Flow and a super spacious and great looking case. The I5 Will let you down in multitasking compared to an I7. For future I would strongly recommend getting an i7 4820k. I has new Ivy Bidge-E processor, LGA 2011 and much better for multitasking and video editing, And LGA is better for future proofing because and much better for multi GPU in case you decide to get another video card or two. Only down side to that is LGA 2011 boards are really expensive, The best value board for best performance is the ASRock X79 Extreme6. SSD is really good to have and I know that you have chosen to get one later which is a good idea, It is best to have raw storage space (1TB HDD Here) and a really fast device for loading, opening and all sorts of things that needs to be done really fast.
October 26, 2013 2:56:51 AM

There is no reason to go for the 4820k over the 4770k.

The 4770k being the Haswell part performs better than the 4820k for almost everything.

So, go for the 4770k. It is the way to go.
October 26, 2013 7:21:33 AM

unknownofprob said:
SWAGMASTER said:
Sangeet Khatri said:
1. You probably need like 16 GB of RAM for rendering stuff. 8GB is way too less for that work.

2. Go for the AMD 280X. it performs the same as the Nvidia 770 but is significantly cheaper.

3. Also look for the Bitfenix Shinobi, it is a very good case for just a little more price.

4. Also you can take your CPU to like 4.0 to 4.2 Ghz with that CPU cooler, so it is a pretty good CPU cooler for the price.

These are my suggestions.


I plan on getting 16gb in a few months. I won't be to heavy with the video editing straight away so that's why i'am only getting 8 for now.
And yes I decided to go with the 280x today!


The 280x is just a 7970 but been clocked higher, A 7970 OC'd will be exactly the same but for less. The HAF 932 is a perfect example of a really good case to get, High Air Flow and a super spacious and great looking case. The I5 Will let you down in multitasking compared to an I7. For future I would strongly recommend getting an i7 4820k. I has new Ivy Bidge-E processor, LGA 2011 and much better for multitasking and video editing, And LGA is better for future proofing because and much better for multi GPU in case you decide to get another video card or two. Only down side to that is LGA 2011 boards are really expensive, The best value board for best performance is the ASRock X79 Extreme6. SSD is really good to have and I know that you have chosen to get one later which is a good idea, It is best to have raw storage space (1TB HDD Here) and a really fast device for loading, opening and all sorts of things that needs to be done really fast.


the 7970 is about the same price as the gtx 770 which i was going to get. so the 280x where im buying it is 100 euro cheaper!
October 26, 2013 8:07:52 AM

Go for the 280x. It is cheaper and faster.
October 27, 2013 2:50:50 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
There is no reason to go for the 4820k over the 4770k.

The 4770k being the Haswell part performs better than the 4820k for almost everything.

So, go for the 4770k. It is the way to go.


Just remember the 4770k has integrated graphics, something he doesn't need. The 4770k has 8MB Cache and the 4820k has 10MB Cache, The 4820k has higher power usage, The 4770k will overclock slightly higher than 4820k, 4820k runs cooler, 4820k has more PCIE lanes, 4820k runs better on SLI/Crossfire.

For gaming with only one card the 4770k will serve you better, But in the future with more than one card, you would want to upgrade the CPU to LGA 2011 and 4820k is the best way to go for the way CPU's are heading. The next LGA 2011 CPU's are going to be the 5xxxk's with Haswell-E, That will be really good to have. Multitasking and Video editing the 4820k will do better than the 4770k.

-The 4770k doesn't beat 4820k in almost everything, The 4820k will do everything better besides gaming, If you are gaming with an SLI system or Crossfire system, then The 4820k will do better. Let alone the 4820k does really well in gaming anyway.

-Just because it is faster on paper, Doesn't mean it will outperform a card with less performance, It does need a good driver as well. Nvidia have better game support and drivers than AMD, Which in some cases will put a less powerful Nvidia card in front of AMD. AMD Struggle to keep good frame rates as they go up and down all over the joint whilst Nvidia have a more consistent frame rates. Once you start to go Crossfire with AMD, Then Nvidia will really start to show to be the better performer as their issues will lead to really highs and lows with their fraps.

-In my opinion a 280x is better than 770, the 3GB 384-Bit will serve you better than 2GB 256-bit, BUT If you were to get a second card later, Then Nvidia will always be the better option.
October 27, 2013 3:00:44 AM

SWAGMASTER said:
unknownofprob said:
SWAGMASTER said:
Sangeet Khatri said:
1. You probably need like 16 GB of RAM for rendering stuff. 8GB is way too less for that work.

2. Go for the AMD 280X. it performs the same as the Nvidia 770 but is significantly cheaper.

3. Also look for the Bitfenix Shinobi, it is a very good case for just a little more price.

4. Also you can take your CPU to like 4.0 to 4.2 Ghz with that CPU cooler, so it is a pretty good CPU cooler for the price.

These are my suggestions.


I plan on getting 16gb in a few months. I won't be to heavy with the video editing straight away so that's why i'am only getting 8 for now.
And yes I decided to go with the 280x today!


The 280x is just a 7970 but been clocked higher, A 7970 OC'd will be exactly the same but for less. The HAF 932 is a perfect example of a really good case to get, High Air Flow and a super spacious and great looking case. The I5 Will let you down in multitasking compared to an I7. For future I would strongly recommend getting an i7 4820k. I has new Ivy Bidge-E processor, LGA 2011 and much better for multitasking and video editing, And LGA is better for future proofing because and much better for multi GPU in case you decide to get another video card or two. Only down side to that is LGA 2011 boards are really expensive, The best value board for best performance is the ASRock X79 Extreme6. SSD is really good to have and I know that you have chosen to get one later which is a good idea, It is best to have raw storage space (1TB HDD Here) and a really fast device for loading, opening and all sorts of things that needs to be done really fast.


the 7970 is about the same price as the gtx 770 which i was going to get. so the 280x where im buying it is 100 euro cheaper!


Really? Where I live (Australia) I can get a 7970 for $359, R9 280x for $399 or a GTX 770 for $465. -Those are all Gigabyte Cards- The Asus ones are always more expensive and for a good reason, Their OC Software 'GPU Tweak' is much better than the others and their cards tend to last longer depending on how you use them.
October 27, 2013 3:20:45 AM

I don't think that having just 2MB extra cache and more PCI lanes are anything that spectacular when you add in the extra cost of getting the LGA 2011 socket.

As for the LGA 2011 platform, it has nothing spectacular when compared with Z87 other than just having more PCI express lanes and support for dual CPU's. Yes, there are some other things, but it is not something that a general user would need.

Also the LGA 2011 natively supports only 2 SATA 6Gb/sec ports from Intel and it has no USB 3.0 natively, so that is seriously outdated. The motherboard manufacturers had to put their their own USB 3.0 controllers to support more USB 3.0 ports

And the 4820 being based on the Ivy Bridge architecture, it would perform slightly worse than the 4770k which is based on the Haswell Architecture.

So in short the 4820k is just basically the 3770k with 2MB of extra cache and more PCI express lanes and yeah.. the extra additional cost of the platform which is basically outdated too..


Going for the LGA 2011 is pointless unless you are going for the Six Core CPU.

For the quad core one the LGA 1150 socket would do just fine.
October 27, 2013 3:39:39 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
I don't think that having just 2MB extra cache and more PCI lanes are anything that spectacular when you add in the extra cost of getting the LGA 2011 socket.

As for the LGA 2011 platform, it has nothing spectacular when compared with Z87 other than just having more PCI express lanes and support for dual CPU's. Yes, there are some other things, but it is not something that a general user would need.

Also the LGA 2011 natively supports only 2 SATA 6Gb/sec ports from Intel and it has no USB 3.0 natively, so that is seriously outdated. The motherboard manufacturers had to put their their own USB 3.0 controllers to support more USB 3.0 ports

And the 4820 being based on the Ivy Bridge architecture, it would perform slightly worse than the 4770k which is based on the Haswell Architecture.

So in short the 4820k is just basically the 3770k with 2MB of extra cache and more PCI express lanes and yeah.. the extra additional cost of the platform which is basically outdated too..


Going for the LGA 2011 is pointless unless you are going for the Six Core CPU.

For the quad core one the LGA 1150 socket would do just fine.


The x79 are outdated but Intel are making x99 boards and that will be the king of boards. x79 boards have USB 3.0 and USB 2.0, Different boards have different SATA Ports, LGA 2011 Has 8 RAM slots, The x79 range from 2-8 SATA 6 GB/s, 2MB Cache more will benefit you
in the years to come. In the future when he decides to upgrade a six core CPU will be a much better option as some few games already need 4.
October 27, 2013 4:25:21 AM

All those fancy things aside, how much does it matter for performance.

As far as things to the 4770k performs about the same as the 4820 and mostly better, so for a quad core system, there is no reason to go for the LGA 2011.

Yes, if someone is willing to go for the six core 4930k, then that is another thing, then I have no problem in recommending LGA 2011.

But for quad core as I said before the 4770k should be the most anyone would need.
October 27, 2013 4:49:23 PM

I'm sticking with the 4770k.. I've already reached my budget and I don't need anymore. The 4770k is all I wanted.
October 27, 2013 6:49:37 PM

The i7 4770k is the most 99% of people ever need.
October 28, 2013 3:48:56 AM

SWAGMASTER said:
I'm sticking with the 4770k.. I've already reached my budget and I don't need anymore. The 4770k is all I wanted.


Yes It is fine and I know that there is no problem with it. I am just putting that up not just for you but for anyone else having the same question. It could benefit them in the reasons I have listed, For you the 4770k is fine, I just said that for things to consider.
October 28, 2013 3:53:12 AM

CTurbo said:
The i7 4770k is the most 99% of people ever need.


Well I am doing some serious 3D Design work on My MacBook Pro and I have to tell you, It sucks at that. (Using it to power 27" Monitor as well) I am Personally Going LGA 2011 with 4820k as I will need it. After the Intel i7 5xxxk's come out with the Haswell-E processor, I will buy the 5930k Hex core because some of my 3D Design work programs and Game making programs already require 4 cores for maximum performance of the software and my MacBook Pro only has 2. I am going LGA 2011 as I will need 6 cores sooner or later.
October 28, 2013 4:05:09 AM

The 4820k is almost no upgrade from the 4770k. If you want the LGA 2011 socket, get a 4930k now. When the Haswell-E cpus come out, they will also bring with them a new Extreme socket.
October 28, 2013 4:37:12 AM

CTurbo said:
The 4820k is almost no upgrade from the 4770k. If you want the LGA 2011 socket, get a 4930k now. When the Haswell-E cpus come out, they will also bring with them a new Extreme socket.


Why buy a 6 core CPU now if I will be upgrading to 6 core later? I only need 4 Cores at the moment and the extra money I can put into a R9 290x I am getting. When the new MOBO and CPU Comes out I will do the upgrade then but I am going Crossfire so I am better of with LGA 2011.
November 3, 2013 11:40:18 PM

The LGA 2011 is basically End-Of-Life after this 4xxx series.

The newer Extreme CPU's from Intel would be based on the Haswell architecture and would probably move to a newer socket and DDR4 RAM, 10 SATA 6GB/sec ports and hell lot of new features.

So, if you are going for the LGA 2011 there is no upgrade path. So better buy a 4930k now or wait for the next series of the Extreme CPUs with new boards.

You do not want to waste your 500-600 dollars when there would be no upgrade available for the socket.
November 4, 2013 3:29:59 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
The LGA 2011 is basically End-Of-Life after this 4xxx series.

The newer Extreme CPU's from Intel would be based on the Haswell architecture and would probably move to a newer socket and DDR4 RAM, 10 SATA 6GB/sec ports and hell lot of new features.

So, if you are going for the LGA 2011 there is no upgrade path. So better buy a 4930k now or wait for the next series of the Extreme CPUs with new boards.

You do not want to waste your 500-600 dollars when there would be no upgrade available for the socket.


I am going to buy the 4820k with Rampage IV Formula Board, When the new CPU and Motherboard comes out, Then I will buy both, I do like Ivy Bridge-E but Haswell-E looks and sounds really cool. Though what will the 5770k be?
November 4, 2013 5:47:38 AM

Okay.. your choice.. If I were you then I would have not wasted the money, but still, your choice.. Go for whatever you feel like is the best option for you. Who am I to contradict on your choice..
November 4, 2013 5:59:24 AM

I don't understand why you don't just get a 3rd gen i5 + Z77 mobo now(you said you only need 4 cores at the moment), and then upgrade to a 6-core cpu + mobo when you need it? It doesn't make any sense to spend a LOT of $$$ on a 4820 + LGA 2011 now just to scrap both later. It almost makes sense(sorta) if you are going to get a 4930 later, but...

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November 4, 2013 7:52:05 AM
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@CTurbo Exactly.. that is what I thought, but he is not understanding that thing. So, let him do whatever he feels is right. We cannot just make him do what we think is right.

But seriously speaking, if I had that much money. I would just get the i7 4770k + Z87 board instead of the 4820K and not upgrade for like 2 years and would then move to the extreme CPU's with the broadwell architecture finally.

For gaming, the i7 4770k is still the most powerful gaming CPU right now. For gaming, it is better even than the 4930k, because it has better single threaded performance than the 4930k and seriously, none of the games utilize more than 8 threads nor will any game do it sometime soon.
November 5, 2013 7:23:50 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
@CTurbo Exactly.. that is what I thought, but he is not understanding that thing. So, let him do whatever he feels is right. We cannot just make him do what we think is right.

But seriously speaking, if I had that much money. I would just get the i7 4770k + Z87 board instead of the 4820K and not upgrade for like 2 years and would then move to the extreme CPU's with the broadwell architecture finally.

For gaming, the i7 4770k is still the most powerful gaming CPU right now. For gaming, it is better even than the 4930k, because it has better single threaded performance than the 4930k and seriously, none of the games utilize more than 8 threads nor will any game do it sometime soon.


i ordered the i7 4770k + z87 on saturday. will be here tomorrow so im excited to build it!!!
November 5, 2013 10:27:35 PM

Well.. good for you.

Have fun :) 
November 6, 2013 12:29:06 AM

Sangeet Khatri said:
@CTurbo Exactly.. that is what I thought, but he is not understanding that thing. So, let him do whatever he feels is right. We cannot just make him do what we think is right.

But seriously speaking, if I had that much money. I would just get the i7 4770k + Z87 board instead of the 4820K and not upgrade for like 2 years and would then move to the extreme CPU's with the broadwell architecture finally.

For gaming, the i7 4770k is still the most powerful gaming CPU right now. For gaming, it is better even than the 4930k, because it has better single threaded performance than the 4930k and seriously, none of the games utilize more than 8 threads nor will any game do it sometime soon.


I am going for a 4930k I changed my mind because 4 cores for what I am doing isn't going to be enough. I am going 64GB Ram so that is also why I am going LGA 2011. I just am stuck on a motherboard: Asus Sabertooth X79 or ASRock X79 Extreme 9 or Gigabyte X79S-UP5-WIFI. I aren't going for the Rampage IV Formula as it only supports 4 Ram slots, But I would like a RED motherboard as my case fans and details are in RED, Any other suggestions for under $400. My Case is the Thermaltake Level 10GT Gaming Case.
November 6, 2013 7:01:41 AM

If you can afford it, you'll love a 4930K.

I challenge you actually USE more than 32GB of RAM at any one time. I bet you can't do it! haha

Keep in mind, pretty much any of the 2011 motherboards are good. You can't really go wrong.
November 6, 2013 8:12:10 AM

@unknownofprob Well.. I suggest you start a new topic regarding this particular discussion and post the link here.

Mixing two answers for different people would confuse us all.

Hence I suggest you to start a new thread and post the link to that thread here. I will look to what I can suggest.

And yeah, a very good choice going with 4930k, 6 core 12 threads, seriously a lot overclocking potential. Definitely a good choice.
November 7, 2013 2:04:39 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1870705/4770k-48...

Here it is, I am doing comparisons of i7 4770k, 4820k and 4930k to see what kind of reasonings I get for each CPU. I have the money for the 4930k and I will gladly put it in my build if it is worth it. Sangeet Khatri, I would like a bit more info on the 4930k and i plan on doing some serious overclocking.
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