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8350 @ 5ghz VS i7 4770k

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October 19, 2013 6:53:37 AM

Which is better?

I plan on OC'ing to 5ghz with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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October 19, 2013 6:56:39 AM

not on that motherboard in your sig. I will probably break.
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October 19, 2013 7:02:51 AM

shadow32 said:
Which is better?

I plan on OC'ing to 5ghz with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


What's your use case scenario?

Gaming: Go with the 4670k, hyper threading isnt really used in games, and performance per clock is higher than AMD.

Video Editing, Streaming, Photo Editing: Go with the FX 8350, better performance with the 8 cores with accelerates the process.

If you already own an FX 8350 however, I'd just say stick with it: not really worth upgrading at this time.
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October 19, 2013 7:03:13 AM

shellls45 said:
not on that motherboard in your sig. I will probably break.


How far do you think I can OC on it? And I have heatsink of the Mosfet/vrm's
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October 19, 2013 7:07:11 AM

maybe 4.4. Its 4+1 and low quality vrms. It will never hit the 1.5 volts u need for 5 ghz
October 19, 2013 7:10:00 AM

shellls45 said:
maybe 4.4. Its 4+1 and low quality vrms. It will never hit the 1.5 volts u need for 5 ghz


Can you suggest a board then? Also, if I get heatsinks and fans pointed at all VRMs, will that make it better?
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October 19, 2013 9:49:17 AM

shadow32 said:
shellls45 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

something like this it has 8+2 phases. I dont think its really worth 150 dollars for 600mhz



So why is my board so bad exactly?


Actually I though you had something different. I just looked up you exact model and it is not suitable for any overclocking
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-...

Find it in the chart. Its not even recommended for 125w cpus.

its 3+1 power phase
October 19, 2013 9:56:28 AM

shellls45 said:
shadow32 said:
shellls45 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

something like this it has 8+2 phases. I dont think its really worth 150 dollars for 600mhz


This board: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ?

It advertises you can overclock with it, wow.

So why is my board so bad exactly?


Actually I though you had something different. I just looked up you exact model and it is not suitable for any overclocking
http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-...

Find it in the chart. Its not even recommended for 125w cpus.

its 3+1 power phase



It even advertised that it works with an FX 8350 and can overclock...wow. False advertisement? Should I return it?

Also, what is the power phase exactly?
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October 19, 2013 10:49:54 AM

LOLOLOLOL!!! You thought you were gonna hit 5Ghz with that Motherboard?!?

No son! You gotta get a 990FX at least for that.

You're best off getting a i7 if you want the best performance on a micro ATX platform. Well, you could also wait for AMD Kaveri. But I suspect you already have a GPU you're using. So I say go with a i7 4770K.
October 19, 2013 11:34:41 AM

griptwister said:
LOLOLOLOL!!! You thought you were gonna hit 5Ghz with that Motherboard?!?

No son! You gotta get a 990FX at least for that.

You're best off getting a i7 if you want the best performance on a micro ATX platform. Well, you could also wait for AMD Kaveri. But I suspect you already have a GPU you're using. So I say go with a i7 4770K.


I already have this board and FX 8350. How much do you think I can OC it? I have a heatsink on the VRM's and fan pointed at it.
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October 19, 2013 11:56:03 AM

4.5GHz if you're extremely lucky.

Most likely, you'll be able to hit 4.3-4.4Ghz Safely. I'd recommend the best cooler you can possibly afford. Which would probably be h100i And put it into a Push/Pull configuration.
October 19, 2013 12:13:05 PM

griptwister said:
4.5GHz if you're extremely lucky.

Most likely, you'll be able to hit 4.3-4.4Ghz Safely. I'd recommend the best cooler you can possibly afford. Which would probably be h100i And put it into a Push/Pull configuration.


That's what I had in the original post. Anything to watch out for while OC'ing? Like failure points? VRM overheating?
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October 19, 2013 12:22:04 PM

Man, I'd just be happy if the Computer boots up first. Once you're overclocking, I'd probably be most worried about the VRMs going out.
October 19, 2013 12:27:29 PM

griptwister said:
Man, I'd just be happy if the Computer boots up first. Once you're overclocking, I'd probably be most worried about the VRMs going out.


It was fine for 2 mo. on its own. Then ingames the GPU usage dropped from CPU throttling, from the VRM's over heating. Idle desktop for 5 min, they would get to 150F. Then I put heatsink on them and let prime95 run for 8+hrs and it was 110-120F. Haven't had a problem since. What is a good temp for VRM's to be at when OC'ing?
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October 19, 2013 12:36:35 PM

You should not overclock on that 3+1 phase MOBO. The VRMs can't handle that kind of current. Look at my motherboard recommendation link.
October 19, 2013 12:42:08 PM

shellls45 said:
You should not overclock on that 3+1 phase MOBO. The VRMs can't handle that kind of current. Look at my motherboard recommendation link.


Out of those, which one is the cheapest for Overclocking?
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October 19, 2013 12:49:11 PM

shadow32 said:
shellls45 said:
You should not overclock on that 3+1 phase MOBO. The VRMs can't handle that kind of current. Look at my motherboard recommendation link.


Out of those, which one is the cheapest for Overclocking?


Let me ask you some question - what do you expect with overclocking?

By now it is pretty much an established fact that anything beyond 4.4GHz for you will require a significant investment...

So realistically, you will buy a new board and possibly a new fan and you will get to 4.4GHz (maybe). Let me tell you - the actual performance difference for you will be like 5%... You won't feel it.

Just try to bump it to 4.2GHz with whatever you have now and be done with it. That's my advice.
October 19, 2013 12:55:06 PM

Gaidax said:
shadow32 said:
shellls45 said:
You should not overclock on that 3+1 phase MOBO. The VRMs can't handle that kind of current. Look at my motherboard recommendation link.


Out of those, which one is the cheapest for Overclocking?


Let me ask you some question - what do you expect with overclocking?

By now it is pretty much an established fact that anything beyond 4.4GHz for you will require a significant investment...

So realistically, you will buy a new board and possibly a new fan and you will get to 4.4GHz (maybe). Let me tell you - the actual performance difference for you will be like 5%... You won't feel it.

Just try to bump it to 4.2GHz with whatever you have now and be done with it. That's my advice.


Sounds like the best Idea for now. I will get a better board in the future though.
October 19, 2013 4:34:50 PM

instead of wasting money on an over rated cooler like the h100i you could buy a cooler which is sufficient to overclock that cpu anyway like a 212x and buy a decent motherboard. you aren't overclocking anything with 3+1 vrm
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October 19, 2013 7:41:31 PM

shadow32 said:
griptwister said:
LOLOLOLOL!!! You thought you were gonna hit 5Ghz with that Motherboard?!?

No son! You gotta get a 990FX at least for that.

You're best off getting a i7 if you want the best performance on a micro ATX platform. Well, you could also wait for AMD Kaveri. But I suspect you already have a GPU you're using. So I say go with a i7 4770K.


I already have this board and FX 8350. How much do you think I can OC it? I have a heatsink on the VRM's and fan pointed at it.

to be honest, if this OC dream of yours is for gaming, dont waste your time or money on motherboards and coolers, your 7850 gpu will be holding you back way more than the cpu ever could. Focus on upgrading that.
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October 19, 2013 7:58:54 PM

I completely agree with iam2thecrowe. I'd recommend getting a r9 280X if anything.
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