How is my future rig for gaming? AMD fx 8350, AMD R9-280X, 8 Gb ram @ 1600 mhz and 550 watt psu.

St0rm_KILL3r · Oct 19, 2013

I know that AMD r9-280X isn't out for sale yet. But this will be my rig as soon as it is out. I was about to buy a hd 7870 Ghz edition, but suddenly when i was browsing about it i read about the amd's next gen graphic cards and looking at the specs and all the info I decided to wait for it! I mean it's definitely worth the wait. I was able to afford a $320 card and the best option was hd 7870 as the 660ti was out of my budget. But hey! a R9-280x which is a rebrand of hd 7970 and which is better than it will be for Only $299/$309 I thought It's the best Bang for the buck I could ever get. I few weeks ago asked Tomshardware that which would be better for gaming, amd fx 8350 of i5 4670k. 80% of people repelied that 4670K is no match for the 8350. But Looking at the benchmarks fx-8350 is even 0.2% better than a 3770k(when used all cores) and a plus piont, it is an overclocking beast which no one can match(not sure if 9370 and 9590 can overclock upto 1Ghz more). As upcoming games will be optimised for 8 cores I decided to ignore those 80% people and went for fx-8350. Result - Games like Watch dogs and Crysis 3 can't be maxed out with 4670k(or ultra settings in some cases). I could Still go for the 4670k if that will be better than fx-8350 for atleast 2 upcoming years.
So could you tell me what Settings should I keep for the following games on 1920x1080p res to play it smoothly, and also what FPS will I get..???
Crysis 3
Far Cry3, BF3, BF4, Watch Dogs, Skyrim, Sleeping Dogs, Remember me, Hitman absolution, Cod Ghost, Ac4, Batman Arkham Origins, etc....

Super Batman · Oct 19, 2013

With a 4670K and a 280X I can´t see why you sholdn´t be ablew to play Ultra/Ultra High on almost everything except games with UberSampling...

On Ultra in almost all upcoming games I thinl you will see aroung 120-150FPS

adimeister · Oct 19, 2013

I'd go for the 4670k bro. But with either CPU, you can get FPS at around 45 to 55 with that setup. Depends on Which game of course. Like BF3 on SP would give you above around 60fps. Then BF4, it would be around 40fps I believe.

St0rm_KILL3r · Oct 20, 2013

hafijur :

I do not actually plan to overclock my cpu due to the reason u mentioned above. The only reason I am worried is watch dogs needs an i7 3770k or fx 8350 to play on high-Ultra settings, but not sure if 4670k can work there as good as a 3770k. Need your advice....

St0rm_KILL3r · Oct 20, 2013

adimeister :

there's a bit of price gap between 8350 and 4670k. So if I go for the 8350 i can afford a better psu and a better hdd. So is it really worth it???

swilczak · Oct 20, 2013

hafijur :

You're killing me Hafijur. 350watts at 4.8 ghz? Try more like 200 watts if all 8 cores are being used which they won't be.

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

Have you even read what you posted? It clearly states that its the power pulled from the wall, not the CPU alone. Otherwise your holy 3570k would pull 260w.... And at the end of the page: AMD benches used atx mono, Intel matx, can add up to 20 w additional. Pls make us all happy and just leave this forum.

swilczak · Oct 20, 2013

hafijur :

Yeah that is total power drawn from the entire computer at idle. Maybe you should read before you post something.

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

OMG READ THE FULL REVIEW!

"However, for the power consumption tests we re-enable everything in order to get a real-world power draw. The power draw is measured via a power meter at the wall, so the numbers below are of total system power draw from the mains, not the power consumption of a CPU itself. Measuring the power draw of any individual component in a PC is tricky to impossible to acheive."

and why should a 550w for a fx8350 and a 280x be a nogo?! in the review you posted, the system uses 364w at cpu load. lets assume a 280x adds another 200w. =564w from the wall. efficiency of the psu=~80%
564w=100%, 80%= 452w. the psu can provide 550w, not only pull 550w from the wall, and thats with a high overclocked cpu, tdp of a 280x would be 190w (at gaming its quite much lower)

adimeister · Oct 20, 2013

You can read this guys post all over toms, seems like a paid guy. Sweet deal bro.

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

adimeister :

I know, already had some argues with him, but i cant resist.

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

I think you habe to read it again... Its pulling 550w FROM THE WALL. So it will only provide 80% of it to the parts! =440w. A 550w PSU can provide 550w to the parts and will pull ~680w from the wall...

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

And anyway, I corrected you now 3 times cause you aren't able to read one page and get its meaning.

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

You just don't get it. that's exactly what I calculated....
And for your laptop: if it takes 87w fully stressed (i guess you mean from the wall, measured by a powermeter) U PAY FOR 87w! That's its actual power draw! But it will only provide 90% of it to your laptop!

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

And the parts aren't taking 550w from the PSU, that's what the PSU draws from the wall. The 364w are the draw from the system in the review (PSU from the wall!) Add 210w for the GPU (since it draws 190w from the PSU) and you get 550w from the wall. The PSU actually provides 440w, that's what the parts need

guggi4 · Oct 20, 2013

And the parts aren't taking 550w from the PSU, that's what the PSU draws from the wall. The 364w are the draw from the system in the review (PSU from the wall!) Add 210w for the GPU (since it draws 190w from the PSU) and you get 550w from the wall. The PSU actually provides 440w, that's what the parts need

adimeister · Oct 20, 2013

OMG this guy. hahaha

St0rm_KILL3r · Oct 21, 2013

hafijur :

Looking at your debates on psus. I have a question, is it worth spending more $19 and get a 600W psu, or a 550w would do the job just fine..? I dont plan to overclock any of my parts. After 6-4 months i will only add 8 gb 1600mhz more ram to my pc which makes it 16 gb.
And btw they both have 85% efficiency. And one more question which would be better Corsair VS650 650 Watt PSU or Cooler Master Thunder 600 Watts PSU...????

guggi4 · Oct 21, 2013

550w is perfecly fine, wie calculated with heavy overclocks

St0rm_KILL3r · Oct 21, 2013

guggi4 :

As you are a cpu expert I ask you striaght, I did some web search where I found that fx-8350 can give better performance than 3770k in games like Crysis 3. Also Benchmarks tell that it is 0.2% faster than 3770k. If thats true why wouldn't it will give me better performance than 3770k and 4670k in Watch Dogs (as the both games are optimised for all 8 cores). And also I read A LOT on many posts that right now going with fx-8350 is future proofing your rig.

St0rm_KILL3r · Oct 21, 2013

hafijur :

LOL I was gonna buy them from flipkart too. You just gave me the two links which I have already opened in my browser. So I wan't you opinion too is the 550w Psu fine or should I buy the 650w?

guggi4 · Oct 21, 2013

As for the CPUs: its hard to tell the future, but with games using 8 cores you can expect performance between a i5 and a i7, sometimes it will be faster, sometimes slower like its general with hardware.
For the PSU: if don't really plan to over clock, the 550w is perfectly fine. If you plan on overclocking, get a quality 650w unit.

avinashbhujan · Nov 1, 2013

I'd go for the 4670k, the fx 8350 does not have hyperthreading which is great for gaming!

guggi4 · Nov 1, 2013

avinashbhujan :

Are u serious?

avinashbhujan · Nov 1, 2013

guggi4 :

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670K-vs-AMD-FX-8350

How is my future rig for gaming? AMD fx 8350, AMD R9-280X, 8 Gb ram @ 1600 mhz and 550 watt psu.

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