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October 21, 2013 10:22:01 AM

Hi there!

I know that Titan and 780 cards are awesome, but I can get 2x ASUS GeForce GTX 690 cards for a great bargain. And because I need CUDA cores this deal is pretty sweet. Thing is that I wont be gaming that much on this machine, but still I would like to ask about micro stuttering. I know that Nvidia have had problems with micro stuttering in SLI before, and that it should had been fixed with newer drivers, but...

This setup with 2x ASUS GeForce GTX 690 is basically 4x 680? , so, my question is, will I have any problems with micro stuttering today with 2x ASUS GeForce GTX 690 cards? (More/same/less then lets say 780sli)?

Thanks for your time!
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October 21, 2013 10:30:49 AM

SLI isn't perfect, but it was Crossfire that is/was having all the microstutter issues lately. SLI has frame metering tech to help minimize it. That said, 4-way SLI does have more issues than 2-way.
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October 21, 2013 10:32:06 AM

easy answer... SLI is pretty matured. You shouldnt experience any issues with micro.

and their drivers actually work... crossfire on the other hand is an ongoing headache and endless beta drivers.
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October 21, 2013 10:36:58 AM

IMHO , you wont need to SLI GTX 690s. A single card is enough for 3D or 2560x1600.
Dual GTX 690s will have less VRAM , making them senseless for 4K and rest can be conquered with a single GPU.
VRAM for SLI ( usable ) = 4GB = 2GB for each GPU = 1GB per GPU core.
Thats sorta senseless. I would get them only if it costs less than 1400USD. Else I would grab a single GTX 690 or a GTX 780 in SLI.
Whats the rest of the rig , cost of GPUs ( for both ) and monitor resolution BTW ?

Coming to the point , too many cooks spoil the broth. It applies here. Quad GPU SLI rarely goes without issues , from what I know , but CrossFire is what really sucks. Issues like micro stuttering or FPS drop , etc will be less , but will exist no doubt..............
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October 21, 2013 10:38:34 AM

I think you'll have less micro-stuttering than say, if you were only using 2 single-gpu cards in sli (i.e. 2 780's in sli).

Tom's had an article a while ago about what happens to microstuttering when a 3rd card is added. It virtually eliminated almost all of the microstuttering. I would imagine that having 4 gpu's (2 dual gpu's) would yield a similar result.

Regardless, nvidia's drivers for the 600 series were pretty good from the get go and there weren't ever really any blatant issues with microstuttering.

Note: You should make sure you won't be using more than 2gb vram, as that's all you'd get using 2 690's in quad-sli. I'd see what happens to the prices of the 780 and titan after amd's r9 290x is officially released.
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October 21, 2013 10:44:43 AM

CommentariesAnd More said:
IMHO , you wont need to SLI GTX 690s. A single card is enough for 3D or 2560x1600.
Dual GTX 690s will have less VRAM , making them senseless for 4K and rest can be conquered with a single GPU.
VRAM for SLI ( usable ) = 4GB = 2GB for each GPU = 1GB per GPU core.
Thats sorta senseless. I would get them only if it costs less than 1400USD. Else I would grab a single GTX 690 or a GTX 780 in SLI.
Whats the rest of the rig , cost of GPUs ( for both ) and monitor resolution BTW ?

Coming to the point , too many cooks spoil the broth. It applies here. Quad GPU SLI rarely goes without issues , from what I know , but CrossFire is what really sucks. Issues like micro stuttering or FPS drop , etc will be less , but will exist no doubt..............


Thing is that i can get this hardware for 3.500USD

• Intel Core i7-3970X - 15MB unlocked
• 2x ASUS GeForce GTX 690 4GB (GTX690-4GD5) SLI
• Corsair XMS3 Vengeance 32GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (CMZ32GX3M4A1600C9) (4x8GB)
• Corsair Neutron GTX 480GB SSD SATA3
• Seagate Barracuda 3TB
• ASUS SABERTOOTH X79 - ATX / Intel X79
• Corsair Hydro H100
• Corsair PSU AX 1200W Professional Series Gold
• ASUS Blu-ray 14x burner BDXL - BW-14D1XT/BLK/B/AS
• Corsair Obsidian 550D

Deal is pretty awesome, but like I said, 2x 690 cards kinda bothers me, especially if "only" 1gb (insted of 4) are used per core.

Negative thing about this setup is, the god damn power consumption, which should probably land at 900w... By replacing 690sli for a single 780 card, and 3970x for a 3930k cpu i would gain almost 300w in electricity consumption, which is approximately (if used 10h/day for a month) $20dollars less per month...
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October 21, 2013 10:54:07 AM

For that much of money , I would just kill anyone and buy that. Nah , But thats a good deal. Be sure to look at the condition of the rig and close your eyes and buy it unless ur going 4K. If you are , sell the GTX 690s ( I would sell em for 1500 atleast ) And get the Galaxy GTX 780 HOF in SLI , OC them to 1300MHz and game on . If ur planning 3D or 2560x1600 , the GTX 690s will be fine.
Happy gaming !
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October 21, 2013 10:59:45 AM

CommentariesAnd More said:
For that much of money , I would just kill anyone and buy that. Nah , But thats a good deal. Be sure to look at the condition of the rig and close your eyes and buy it unless ur going 4K. If you are , sell the GTX 690s ( I would sell em for 1500 atleast ) And get the Galaxy GTX 780 HOF in SLI , OC them to 1300MHz and game on . If ur planning 3D or 2560x1600 , the GTX 690s will be fine.
Happy gaming !



Yeah, that is another option. Sell the 690cards and get 780sli or just even one 790/800card (when ever they come out).

Thanks for the help!
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October 21, 2013 11:00:24 AM

fudoka711 said:
I think you'll have less micro-stuttering than say, if you were only using 2 single-gpu cards in sli (i.e. 2 780's in sli).

Tom's had an article a while ago about what happens to microstuttering when a 3rd card is added. It virtually eliminated almost all of the microstuttering. I would imagine that having 4 gpu's (2 dual gpu's) would yield a similar result.

Regardless, nvidia's drivers for the 600 series were pretty good from the get go and there weren't ever really any blatant issues with microstuttering.

Note: You should make sure you won't be using more than 2gb vram, as that's all you'd get using 2 690's in quad-sli. I'd see what happens to the prices of the 780 and titan after amd's r9 290x is officially released.


Thar article did not use FCAT to test, and they only tested one configuration on one game. It was clearly not very complete.

With FCAT and several games tested, you can see here that adding 3 does not improve microstutter, though SLI Titans doesn't have a lot.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Ratin...
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October 22, 2013 11:35:15 PM

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CommentariesAnd More said:
For that much of money , I would just kill anyone and buy that. Nah , But thats a good deal. Be sure to look at the condition of the rig and close your eyes and buy it unless ur going 4K. If you are , sell the GTX 690s ( I would sell em for 1500 atleast ) And get the Galaxy GTX 780 HOF in SLI , OC them to 1300MHz and game on . If ur planning 3D or 2560x1600 , the GTX 690s will be fine.
Happy gaming !



Yeah, that is another option. Sell the 690cards and get 780sli or just even one 790/800card (when ever they come out).

Thanks for the help!


If your getting the 780s in SLI , make sure the're the 780HOFs from Galaxy.
It outperforms the GTX Titan on its factory OC and has prenium OCing features and a capable PCB so you can go to 1300MHZ or more and go ahead of the GTX 690 in SLI :) 
If the HoFs are out of stock get the 780 AMP! from Zotac which is the second best GTX 780 ATM.
Links to both -
780 HoF - http://pcpartpicker.com/part/galaxy-video-card-78xnh5dv...
780 AMP! - http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7020310...

Get your beast ASAP ( if your planning to !)
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