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Hi all, I'm looking to build a new gaming machine this week and am wondering if these parts would work well together. Also, if I'm able to get anything better that might be SLIGHTLY more expensive, I'd like to know what and if it's worth it.

Cooler Master HAF 912
Corsair 650TX V2
Intel i5-4670K
ASUS Z87-A
8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600
MSI N760 TF
Western Digital WD Black 1TB
SAMSUNG 840 Pro 128GB
Asus 24X SATA DVD+/-RW

Are the i7's noticeably faster/smoother than the i5's? Would I notice a huge difference in a nicer mobo w/ an i7? Thanks for the help in advance.

 
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1. The 4670K will turbo up to 3.8 without any overclocking at all. How high you can oc is largely determined by your luck in getting a good chip.
Most all will do 4.0 with nothing more than a multiplier change from 34 to 40.
It is when you take the voltage past 1.2 or so that heat issues arise. That is likely to be the 4.3 or higher range.
I would not buy a liquid cooler. They are expensive, noisy, less reliable, and do not cool any better than a good air cooler.
If budget is an issue, $30 will buy you a decent cooler like the cm hyper 212. For the very best, $75 buys you a noctua nh-d14 or phanteks. They will be very quiet. You might want to google "H100 leaks"
2. On the evo vs. the pro, jbseven is correct that the endurance...
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That case is a little outdated - no usb 3. Try this one for the same price instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119272

Your RAM is CL9. This one is only 10$ more but is MUCH faster at CL7:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231536

Also if you can afford it, its worth getting 16gb for future-proofing as 8gb is on the verge of becoming 'average'. Maybe this one which is the fastest but CL8 would also do:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231628

Try to get the GTX 770 if at all possible.

Good PSU. Leaves room for overclocking and minor upgrades like more ram and hard drives/ssds.
Good SSD.

I would personally stay with the i5 as the $100 price difference isnt reflected in the performance imho.
 
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Your build will work.
No, for gaming, a i7 is not any better than a i5. Few games will use the extra hyperthreads.
Any Z87 based motherboard will perform about the same. There is not a big value in expensive motherboards.
For a balanced gamer, a graphics card should be about 2x the cost of your cpu. In this case, a GTX770 would be better.
You can save a bit by buying a stock GTX770 with a blower type cooler.
On the ssd, buy the evo version which is cheaper.
Consider buying 240gb up front and deferring on the hard drive. 240gb will hold the os and a good number of games. It is easy to add a hard drive later.
 
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I'm having build anxiety! I definitely want to go with the 4670k and OC to around 3.8GHz, I definitely want an Asus mobo as I've never used any other brand mobo in my life. I'm up to spend the extra on the GTX770. Now I'm debating cooling... Liquid vs massive fan/heatsink... I've never used liquid cooling but I was looking at the Q3 2013 $1300 build and they used the Corsair H50 in theirs as opposed to a traditional aftermarket fan. The H50 doesn't say it works for socket 1150 but I guess it does. Does anyone have experience with it?
 
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I wouldn't get the evo ssd as it uses tlc instead of mlc, meaning it has less write endurance and will theoretically die out sooner than the pro. Also the pro has better performance.

The 256GB and 512GB pro is better than 128 in terms of performance but this is really not that noticeable in everyday use. 128GB is more than enough if you are good at managing disk space, as I have 45GB free with 3 games and several applications installed (autocad, photoshop, office, acrobat pro).

Another good thing about 128GB is that you can always get a 2nd one in the future and RAID 0 it for supreme performance and same disk space compared to the 256GB.

Unfortunately im a massive hsf fan so i wouldnt be able to tell you about liquid cooling.
 
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1. The 4670K will turbo up to 3.8 without any overclocking at all. How high you can oc is largely determined by your luck in getting a good chip.
Most all will do 4.0 with nothing more than a multiplier change from 34 to 40.
It is when you take the voltage past 1.2 or so that heat issues arise. That is likely to be the 4.3 or higher range.
I would not buy a liquid cooler. They are expensive, noisy, less reliable, and do not cool any better than a good air cooler.
If budget is an issue, $30 will buy you a decent cooler like the cm hyper 212. For the very best, $75 buys you a noctua nh-d14 or phanteks. They will be very quiet. You might want to google "H100 leaks"
2. On the evo vs. the pro, jbseven is correct that the endurance will be less than the pro. But, it is a moot point. The evo might last 10 years before it runs out of writes in a heavy desktop environment. The pro 15. Both will be long obsolete by then.
Endurance is only an issue in a server environment.
On the performance side, both will perform the same in a desktop environment where we do things one or two at a time. SSD benchmarks use synthetic driver apps that push the devices using queue depths of 32. If you can buy the pro at a similar price, then ok. The best thing for endurance is to buy a larger ssd.
I would not consider raid-0. It offers added performance only in synthetic benchmarks of large sequential transfers.
In normal desktop usage you can't tell the difference. In know, I tried it. Better to buy a larger ssd which has more nand chips that can be accessed in parallel.

Do not be anxious. Parts fit only one way. You are ok if you do not force anything.
Once you have a compatible list you will be ok.
I suggest you download now the case and motherboard manuals. Read them cover to cover.
 
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