FX 9370 Vs. i5 4670k (both same price)

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

Hello. I'am gonna buy a new gaming computer soon. Heres what I've been thinking on so far:

Specs:
KINGSTON DDR3 HyperX Red 1600MHz 16GB 2 x 8GB
SEAGATE Barracuda® 2TB
SAMSUNG SSD 840 EVO 250GB
MICROSOFT Windows 8.1
ASUS ASUS DRW-24B5ST, DVD±RW Writer
CORSAIR Obsidian 750D
2x SAPPHIRE Radeon R9 280X
i5 4670k/FX-9370
CORSAIR AX 860 PSU
ASUS Z87-A, Socket-1150
HYPER 212 EVO

So which CPU will run best on my build? I will edit abit, but mostly gaming, do some homework, I will probably max have 10 tasks up at same time and 2 games. What will run best on BF4?

Akashdeep · Oct 23, 2013

FX 9370 is AMD CPU.

And your motherboard is for Intel CPU.

With this board you have to go for i5 one.

And if you make choice for FX 9370, then you have to change your motherboard to an AMD supported one.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

Akashdeep :

Alright, which motherboard do you recommend? I can choose between these: http://www.supersmart.no/SearchResult.aspx?q=kw:hovedkort
And btw, please don't go a higher price point then 999nok.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

Akashdeep :

I found this MOBO for an insanly low price. http://www.supersmart.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:4926545

Akashdeep · Oct 23, 2013

Go for this(under your budget) for your said AMD CPU: http://www.supersmart.no/PartDetail.aspx?q=p:5236230;c:100458

CLI supported. UEFI BIOS. Supports upto 32GB RAM as maximum.

Akashdeep · Oct 23, 2013

Your choosen one and my suggested one has not much difference.

Just go with one of them. You can go with your choosen one too.

Doesn't make much difference. Both are almost having spec spec and features.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

Akashdeep :

But I was wondring, is AX 860w enough for r9 280x crossfire and that CPU?

Akashdeep · Oct 23, 2013

Aaah... AX 860w is quite enough. You are worrying for no reason.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

Akashdeep :

Well, you can never be sure. But what do you think will run best BF4 and future games at stock speed? My AMD build or Intel build?

logainofhades · Oct 23, 2013

I wouldn't waste your money on an FX 9370. You can buy an FX 8320 and reach those speeds.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

logainofhades :

+1. But I'am not gonna overclock, and it's not "wasting". If I go for FX 9370 instead of i5 4670k I save 10 bucks!

Akashdeep · Oct 23, 2013

JustNeedSomeHelp :

I am sure about your PSU.

Both build will work same for your games.

The performance will depend on your RAM amount. I prefer 16 as minimum. Now a days, 16GB is the startup amount. 8GB days are gone.

And if you get 500GB+ SSD, then you will get higher speed on your OS and application load time.

iam2thecrowe · Oct 23, 2013

the 9370 requires water cooling just so you know, and uses about 200w of power, the 4670k just 77w, and you dont need the K version if you arent going to OC. So just in the psu requirements alone will save you money on the i5. Also look around you can find some clearance models of the 3770 going really cheap, gives you near 4670 performance for games + 4 extra threads if you really feel the need to play 2 games and 10 other things all at the same time....... :S

BSim500 · Oct 23, 2013

iam2thecrowe :

^ This +1. At 220w, the 9370 runs very hot unless you spend a lot more on a high end cooler. The sub 85w 4670K can get away with a cheap air cooler like the 212 EVO. It's a false economy.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

BSim500 :

iam2thecrowe :

^ This +1. At 220w, the 9370 runs very hot unless you spend a lot more on a high end cooler. The sub 85w 4670K can get away with a cheap air cooler like the 212 EVO. It's a false economy.

Which cooler? What if I buy a FX 8320 and buy a hydro 110 and overclock the FX 8320 at 4,7ghz? Will that perform as good as a FX 9370?

BSim500 · Oct 23, 2013

JustNeedSomeHelp :

Well, you're not guaranteed a 4.7GHz on a FX8320. Many can only hit 4.3-4.5GHz on air on average. There's the odd "golden chip" luck of the draw but you're not guaranteed to get one either. Secondly, you'll still need serious cooling. It's not the chip model that matters, it's the overall TDP. A FX8350's 130w is at stock (and even then often under-rated & nearer +150w in reality at stock 4GHz). Start increasing voltage to 1.5v to hit 4.7GHz, and that ends up over 200w too. Over a several hour gaming session case temps will heat up more too, and 220w CPU's put more stress on the motherboard long-run.

There's just no way around it - AMD's have more than double to almost triple the TDP vs Intel, and you really cannot skimp on cooling if you intend to OC an AMD. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable with a 220w CPU of either brand. It really is unnecessary when a 4670K is more than good enough with just 84w TDP for the same price. The $10 saving more than gets wiped out over 2 years in needing water cooling plus higher electricity costs too.

You just can't guarantee any specific high OC on either AMD or Intel above 4.4-4.5GHz. Some AMD's hit 5GHz, others struggle with 4.4Ghz. Some 4670K hit 4.7GHz, others struggle with 4.3GHz. You might get lucky or end up with a poor OC-er with either one.

JustNeedSomeHelp :

Well, if the final release is like the latest BF4 Beta patch, then Intel:-
http://cdn.overclock.net/c/cc/ccbcb49f_1374264_518773038217357_1060742762__zps45d93a9d.jpeg
http://www.hardwarepal.com/battlefield-4-cpu-gpu-benchmarks/8/

logainofhades · Oct 23, 2013

JustNeedSomeHelp :

Not really. The FX 9370 requires a more expensive motherboard as only 3 officially support them.

8350rocks · Oct 23, 2013

JustNeedSomeHelp :

The Gigabyte 990FX-UD3 or Asus Sabertooth 990FX, or Crosshair V Formula Z would be best...

Also, for BF4 benchmarks, the ones posted above are including a bug in the drivers which dramatically effected the performance of the AMD GPUs...the NVidia benchmarks show the AMD FX 8350 to be higher than the 4670k and almost where the 4770k is...which is what you would expect. Then with the overclock of the 9370 at stock, you would achieve something on the order of a 10% gain (roughly) which would put it right around the 4770k in that game. This was pointed out by the moderator Palladin9479 in another thread where he posted the same benchmarks.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

BSim500 :

8350rocks :

Alright guys, I'am starting to get pissed. Why do people say different kind of stuff all the time. Are you sure about this? Could you confirme it?

8350rocks · Oct 23, 2013

BSim500 :

JustNeedSomeHelp :

Yes, check the patch notes for BF4 beta...they make reference to the things they fixed.

The last patch came after Tom's Hardware benchmarked the beta.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

8350rocks :

BSim500 :

JustNeedSomeHelp :

Yes, check the patch notes for BF4 beta...they make reference to the things they fixed.

The last patch came after Tom's Hardware benchmarked the beta.

So, for BF4. If I buy 9370 I will get more FPS then if I buy i5 4670k?

8350rocks · Oct 23, 2013

JustNeedSomeHelp :

8350rocks :

BSim500 :

JustNeedSomeHelp :

Yes, check the patch notes for BF4 beta...they make reference to the things they fixed.

The last patch came after Tom's Hardware benchmarked the beta.

So, for BF4. If I buy 9370 I will get more FPS then if I buy i5 4670k?

That's the way it's shaping up right now...

Honestly, you could buy the 8350 and overclock to 4.6-4.7 and get the same results with a good motherboard. They are the same chip, the 9370 is just factory overclocked.

JustNeedSomeHelp · Oct 23, 2013

8350rocks :

JustNeedSomeHelp :

8350rocks :

BSim500 :

JustNeedSomeHelp :

Yes, check the patch notes for BF4 beta...they make reference to the things they fixed.

The last patch came after Tom's Hardware benchmarked the beta.

So, for BF4. If I buy 9370 I will get more FPS then if I buy i5 4670k?

That's the way it's shaping up right now...

Honestly, you could buy the 8350 and overclock to 4.6-4.7 and get the same results with a good motherboard. They are the same chip, the 9370 is just factory overclocked.

Well, I could. But I think I will go for another power supply and i7 4770k

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8350rocks · Oct 23, 2013

JustNeedSomeHelp :

That's spending a lot more money for not much more performance. If you have a specific budget I wouldn't do that...

If you don't have a specific budget, why not buy the 4930k? It's FAR more powerful than the 4770k...

Dark Lord of Tech · Oct 23, 2013

I game with an overclocked 8350 , so that's the direction I would go. Get some good cooling and overclock the chip a bit.

Just a note : My opinion is biased because I love the FX chips.

Here's my 8350 on an ASROCK 990FX EXTREME 9.

FX8350 \ 5.1GHZ. \ 1.384 VOLTS

Phanteks PH-TC14PE with Scythe Slipstream 110 CFM fans attached.

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