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RAM/Mobo Configuration Question

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  • Intel i7
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  • Asus
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October 23, 2013 5:00:57 AM

I'm thinking that my next RAM/Mobo combination will be the ASUS Maximums VI Hero (i7-4770k) and the G. Skill Trident X 2400/10. However, I noticed that the voltage on that RAM is 1.65V and the board cpu/board is rated for 1.5+5%(1.575V). Will this ultimately slow the ram down? Should I look for other ram or will it be able to operate at 1.65V safely?

Thanks.

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October 23, 2013 5:07:44 AM

Personsally, I would not buy ram that requires that much voltage. You wont ever see any real world speed difference anyway over good low latency 1600mhz memory. Thats my 2 cents. It needs that extra voltage for a reason.
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October 23, 2013 5:16:38 AM

Hello.
As you can see from my PC at my avatar I have the same setup, an i7 4770K with ASUS Maximus VI Hero.
I was wondering the same thing till...
My previous ASUS LGA775 motherboard's memory controller was damaged after years of overvoltage at RAM. Also Intel suggest no more than 1,5volt +/- 5%.
So I just got CORSAIR Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 2133mhz 11-11-11-27 which works at 1,5volt and... The combination of these two is awesome. The Gb/s I get from AIDA64 and SANDRA 2013 is not only ahead of competition, is also too high for these speeds than anything I have seen.
In the end don't worry of getting an 1,5volt RAM, some 1,5V 2133 are performing great.

Edit: Let me provide you some numbers :) .
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October 23, 2013 8:19:22 AM

Is the Corsair Vengeance some good RAM? How about the LP sticks?
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October 23, 2013 8:20:36 AM

Thats why I said real world use. Faster memory always looks pretty in benchmarks, but umless there are pretty dramatic numbers, you cant tell it sitting in front of the monitor.
Very nice hadware in the post above by memnarchon.
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October 23, 2013 8:30:12 AM

jtsanabria said:
Is the Corsair Vengeance some good RAM? How about the LP sticks?


Corsair is one of the best memory manufacturers. And Vengeance is a great line of products from them that sell a lot.
The LP sticks are the same (LP means Low Profile) but they have smaller heatsink. If you have problems with your CPU cooler go with these.

ps: jitpublisher, infront of the monitor you might not see 90% of the hardware difference.
You are right that 1866 or 2133 doesn't give much performance unless you have an APU.
But the thing is that the 1866 and the 2133 have the same price as 1600 nowadays. Or a minor difference (nowhere near the double price that was the previous years.)
So if they have similar price, why not to take even the 2-3% difference???
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October 23, 2013 8:40:15 AM

Do you think the regular size Vengeance sticks will fit with the Noctua NH-D14 model cpu cooler in the CM HAF XM case? I'm unsure of fitment.
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October 23, 2013 8:43:54 AM

jtsanabria said:
Do you think the regular size Vengeance sticks will fit with the Noctua NH-D14 model cpu cooler in the CM HAF XM case? I'm unsure of fitment.


You never mention your cooler :p .
No tehy will not fit. Neither Trident will fit as much as much I know. And I don't know if the removal of the Trident's heatsink will help.
But corsair vengeance LP will certainly do the job.
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October 23, 2013 8:54:19 AM

Okay great. I'll search for some LP sticks. When doing such, what sort of latency should I search for?
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October 23, 2013 9:03:04 AM

jtsanabria said:
Okay great. I'll search for some LP sticks. When doing such, what sort of latency should I search for?


for 1600mhz CL9 and lower
for 1866mhz CL10 and lower
for 2133mhz CL11 and lower.
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October 23, 2013 12:17:18 PM

1.65V DDR3 performance RAM has been around and used for many many years now, it is perfectly safe and absolutely no problem if you configure settings correctly in BIOS/EFI. 1.65V is the enthusiast level limit, it is not an unsafe amount. When you purchase this kind of RAM, you are basically getting a chip capable of performance above standard. The memory can be ran at full spec 1.65V, or 1.50V, 1.550V, and anything in between, so it is very flexible.

Intel suggests 1.50V because they only support the standard. If you want to follow Intel spec, then you should be getting DDR3-1600 CL11 1.50V max. For enthusiast level performance, it is always up to 1.65V and lower timings than standard, that's why you see DDR3-1600 CL7, CL8, CL9, and so forth.

What is real world use? What is your real world?

Most people don't notice a difference because they don't have a "real world" need for faster performance. The basic computer is already so fast, of course you can't tell when streaming videos, gaming, surfing the internet, and so forth. None of that requires heavy duty memory power or usage. Once you begin to deal with video editing, 3D rendering, mathematical computations, that can take hours.. you can notice that something that takes let's say an hour, may only take 30 minutes, so that is where high speed RAM is extremely beneficial. Obviously if something usually takes 1 second, you're not going to notice a difference if it improved by .5 seconds even though it is half the time.

In another perspective, take a sports car for example. It can go 200mph, but it will be useless if you live in the city and you can only go 20mph. Technically the sports car and a cheap economy car is the same speed, so you don't need a fast sports car in the city since you can not take full advantage of it's performance (like average computer user).

The G.Skill Trident X RAM can fit any aftermarket large CPU cooler. The red fins can be removed so they have low profile ability. With the Noctua NH-D14, you do not have to remove it and it will fit just fine.

Hopefully that clears up some questions you may have in mind.

Thank you
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October 23, 2013 12:51:18 PM

gskill support said:
1.65V DDR3 performance RAM has been around and used for many many years now, it is perfectly safe and absolutely no problem if you configure settings correctly in BIOS/EFI. 1.65V is the enthusiast level limit, it is not an unsafe amount. When you purchase this kind of RAM, you are basically getting a chip capable of performance above standard. The memory can be ran at full spec 1.65V, or 1.50V, 1.550V, and anything in between, so it is very flexible.

Intel suggests 1.50V because they only support the standard. If you want to follow Intel spec, then you should be getting DDR3-1600 CL11 1.50V max. For enthusiast level performance, it is always up to 1.65V and lower timings than standard, that's why you see DDR3-1600 CL7, CL8, CL9, and so forth.

What is real world use? What is your real world?

Most people don't notice a difference because they don't have a "real world" need for faster performance. The basic computer is already so fast, of course you can't tell when streaming videos, gaming, surfing the internet, and so forth. None of that requires heavy duty memory power or usage. Once you begin to deal with video editing, 3D rendering, mathematical computations, that can take hours.. you can notice that something that takes let's say an hour, may only take 30 minutes, so that is where high speed RAM is extremely beneficial. Obviously if something usually takes 1 second, you're not going to notice a difference if it improved by .5 seconds even though it is half the time.

In another perspective, take a sports car for example. It can go 200mph, but it will be useless if you live in the city and you can only go 20mph. Technically the sports car and a cheap economy car is the same speed, so you don't need a fast sports car in the city since you can not take full advantage of it's performance (like average computer user).

The G.Skill Trident X RAM can fit any aftermarket large CPU cooler. The red fins can be removed so they have low profile ability. With the Noctua NH-D14, you do not have to remove it and it will fit just fine.

Hopefully that clears up some questions you may have in mind.

Thank you
GSKILL SUPPORT


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