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October 23, 2013 6:27:15 AM

I will be a first time ssd user in a couple days and I have some questions that I cant seem to get answered, pls help :p 

1.) I have win 7 already installed on my raid 1 and ssd is in the mail. I want to install windows on the SSD and move it to boot priority 1, and use my raid 1 as storage. I know I have to delete the data from the raid, but I'm not sure how in this case. Do I need to kill the raid first, or can I just add the ssd, and use the windows cd's formatting to delete partitions and re-format the raid 1, then install windows on the ssd?

2.) Is a program like SSD Tweaker still a good idea considering the new updated firmware? My guess is this program was probably created before much was known about how SSD's ware down, and way before any good firmware was created. What tweaks are still recommend?

Thanx!
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October 23, 2013 10:38:07 AM

semperaye said:
I will be a first time ssd user in a couple days and I have some questions that I cant seem to get answered, pls help :p 

1.) I have win 7 already installed on my raid 1 and ssd is in the mail. I want to install windows on the SSD and move it to boot priority 1, and use my raid 1 as storage. I know I have to delete the data from the raid, but I'm not sure how in this case. Do I need to kill the raid first, or can I just add the ssd, and use the windows cd's formatting to delete partitions and re-format the raid 1, then install windows on the ssd?

2.) Is a program like SSD Tweaker still a good idea considering the new updated firmware? My guess is this program was probably created before much was known about how SSD's ware down, and way before any good firmware was created. What tweaks are still recommend?

Thanx!


Disconnect the raid array first. Install the ssd next. Install Windows on the new ssd, install all Windows and driver updates. After all that is done shutdown and reinstall raid. Then reinstall all your games, programs, etc and direct the installations to the raid. Save the ssd for Windows and your most used applications.

I'm not familiar with that tweaker program. When I get home later today I'll post some tweaks.

Yogi

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October 23, 2013 10:39:46 AM

Y0GI said:
semperaye said:
I will be a first time ssd user in a couple days and I have some questions that I cant seem to get answered, pls help :p 

1.) I have win 7 already installed on my raid 1 and ssd is in the mail. I want to install windows on the SSD and move it to boot priority 1, and use my raid 1 as storage. I know I have to delete the data from the raid, but I'm not sure how in this case. Do I need to kill the raid first, or can I just add the ssd, and use the windows cd's formatting to delete partitions and re-format the raid 1, then install windows on the ssd?

2.) Is a program like SSD Tweaker still a good idea considering the new updated firmware? My guess is this program was probably created before much was known about how SSD's ware down, and way before any good firmware was created. What tweaks are still recommend?

Thanx!


Disconnect the raid array first. Install the ssd next. Install Windows on the new ssd, install all Windows and driver updates. After all that is done shutdown and reinstall raid. Then reinstall all your games, programs, etc and direct the installations to the raid. Save the ssd for Windows and your most used applications.

I'm not familiar with that tweaker program. When I get home later today I'll post some tweaks.

Yogi



Thanx Yogi look forward to that!
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October 24, 2013 11:26:56 AM

semperaye said:
Y0GI said:
semperaye said:
I will be a first time ssd user in a couple days and I have some questions that I cant seem to get answered, pls help :p 

1.) I have win 7 already installed on my raid 1 and ssd is in the mail. I want to install windows on the SSD and move it to boot priority 1, and use my raid 1 as storage. I know I have to delete the data from the raid, but I'm not sure how in this case. Do I need to kill the raid first, or can I just add the ssd, and use the windows cd's formatting to delete partitions and re-format the raid 1, then install windows on the ssd?

2.) Is a program like SSD Tweaker still a good idea considering the new updated firmware? My guess is this program was probably created before much was known about how SSD's ware down, and way before any good firmware was created. What tweaks are still recommend?

Thanx!


Disconnect the raid array first. Install the ssd next. Install Windows on the new ssd, install all Windows and driver updates. After all that is done shutdown and reinstall raid. Then reinstall all your games, programs, etc and direct the installations to the raid. Save the ssd for Windows and your most used applications.

I'm not familiar with that tweaker program. When I get home later today I'll post some tweaks.

Yogi



Thanx Yogi look forward to that!


Here is the optimization guide that I mentioned. Sorry it took so long to post back: http://www.thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-gui...

Yogi

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October 25, 2013 9:00:47 AM

Well I unplugged my hdd's that had win 7 on them and installed the sdd and windows and updated everything. I turned the pc off and plugged both drives into two new ports on my mb. I changed the boot order to ssd, and turned the mode back to raid but nothing would load. I had to change it back to achi and both drives are not showing up. I have c drive with 111gb left thats the ssd, and a random system reserved E of 100m not sure what that is from, and local disk F for 698 gb. I tried formatting my hdds to erase that data but it seems to keep filling back up automatically i'm not sure how it's like some how i raided the ssd with my hdd lol.

I check my bios raid manager and only the ssd and ONE hd are showing, but i have two installed....im lost :( 
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October 25, 2013 9:13:31 AM

semperaye said:
Well I unplugged my hdd's that had win 7 on them and installed the sdd and windows and updated everything. I turned the pc off and plugged both drives into two new ports on my mb. I changed the boot order to ssd, and turned the mode back to raid but nothing would load. I had to change it back to achi and both drives are not showing up. I have c drive with 111gb left thats the ssd, and a random system reserved E of 100m not sure what that is from, and local disk F for 698 gb. I tried formatting my hdds to erase that data but it seems to keep filling back up automatically i'm not sure how it's like some how i raided the ssd with my hdd lol.

I check my bios raid manager and only the ssd and ONE hd are showing, but i have two installed....im lost :( 


You should've installed Windows with RAID mode selected in the BIOS. No worries, it is easy to fix: http://www.overclock.net/t/1227636/how-to-change-sata-m...

Yogi

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October 25, 2013 9:19:15 AM

Change the sata mode to raid and boot off the installation disk and run statup repair. Have the Raid pre-installation driver handy.
After its done you should be able to boot up ok.

As for your raid 1, make sure they are on the same controller. Sometimes motherbds have sata ports on the chipset plus more on another integrated controller such as Asmedia, JMicron, or Marvell. When they are both on the same controller you can boot up into the raid bios and re-configure the raid1.

What motherbd do you have?
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October 26, 2013 1:01:52 PM

Wow guys thanx for all the help!

Let me tell you, whooooo 3 days later and 4 installs of windows and I'm finally done lol. I have the 990fx-ud3 and I did figure out how to install everything in raid mode using the pre-install raid drivers, but for some reason maybe because of them being on one controller, i just couldn't' get windows to install without errors.

So on the forth and final install of windows I decided to just do a software raid since its just for mirroring my storage anyway...lesson learned, everything works great and I love my ssd :)  I would have to not recommend not trying to do this as I was originally intending because it will give you an unneeded headache!
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October 28, 2013 10:26:08 AM

I wonder If I where to actually the hardware raid to work, and my ssd is not part of the raid, if it would then default to achi and trim would work on it, or if since im in raid mode trim would not work anyway? its a kingston ssd now 300
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October 28, 2013 10:28:09 AM

Everything was working great for a day then after installing some games on the HD mirror system booted up fast still, but typing was greatly delayed and the drives started making noises. After the noises stopped and pc would still be slow, then eventually it would be fast again but no cpu usage during the slow periods. Not sure whats effecting this :( 
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