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TheWorldsOnF1re

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HI,
I have the below parts chosen for a new rig. Have not built in a couple years so out of the loop a bit.
Budget is no more than €1k.
It won't be used for gaming often but on the few occasions that I do it will be mostly microsoft FS & Xplane.
I had the hardest time choosing the graphics. Ended up going over my intended Graphics budget so cut back on RAM (was planning on 16GB) and also was going to double up on the hdds for redundancy however both RAm and HDD can be upgraded later. I am 99% sure this gpu has no clearance issues with the case.
Specifically, will this PSU be sufficient and do I need to purchase any additional cables? (GPU says it needs 2 x 6 pin connectors however cannot find any in the MB specs) Perhaps It needs the 6+2 PCI-e molex from the PSU?.

Appreciate the help, thanks.

CM Storm Stryker - SGC-5000W-KWN1
ASRock Z87 Extreme4 - Z87 EXTREME4
Intel Core i5-4570 - BX80646I54570
Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB - KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
Seagate Barracuda 2TB - ST2000DM001
ASUS Radeon HD 7950 - 90-C1CRX0-U0UAY0BZ
Cooler Master B Series 600w - RS600-ACABD3-E1

Any thoughts/ideas are much appreciated. Thanks.
 
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SSD would definitely improve your overall experience, but its not essential.

With RAM I'd stick with basic 1.5V 1600Mhz stuff. You'll get performance increases from spending more, but it really isn't worth it most of the time. 8Gb is plenty sufficient for any game/application to run fine, with plenty of headroom. If you find yourself multitasking a lot, then you can justify getting 16Gb.

Corsair GS series is solid enough, but they are a bit "style over substance", LEDs and stuff. There's no price listed there so I dunno how much you are intending on paying. As a general piece of advice, in the UK the XFX Core series and Seasonic M12 are always a good bet. Both come with 5 year warranties and most of their ranges have been...
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Compatibility wise, you should be absolutely fine, however it might be an idea to reconsider a few of your choices.

You have a fairly expensive motherboard, which you are unlikely to get any real value out of. Z87 offers CPU overclocking, full SLI support, and a few other bits. Having selected a non-overclockable CPU, I don't know how much sense it is to spend on a moderately expensive Z87. Theres a few other features that you might be interested in ofc, such as SSD caching, but you haven't mentioned SSDs.

You don't really mention what your PC is for, but you do say that you won't be gaming often, but you have dedicated a huge proportion of your budget to graphics. In a dedicated/predomindantly gaming machine, it makes complete sense, but for casual gaming here and there it's massive overkill.

Case is pretty expensive too, but everyone picks cases for aesthetics really, so value for money is slightly irrelevant :)

GPU says it needs 2 x 6 pin connectors
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Yeah this is the power supply requirements. The PSU you have selected has enough PCIe cables, but it's a pretty low quality unit.
I'd say on the whole you are probably overspending, but the PSU is the exception. Swapping it for any good 500-600W PSU that has at least 80Plus Bronze certification would definitely be a good idea.
 
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TheWorldsOnF1re

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Hey thanks for the responses.
I have thought about it a bit more and I probably understated the amount of game time I will use this for. My current build is like 6/7 years old Compaq Presario with Celeron processor. Haven't been playing games at all however I am thinking my usage will increase dramatically once I have a pc that can actually play some games. With that in mind I anticipate FSx/Xplane/battlefield/need for speed etc. I will also be using Ableton https://www.ableton.com.
I have considered what was mentioned above and have improved the PSU.
The MB has remained the same however the processor is now i5-4670K 3.4GHz to facilitate the potential for overclocking further down the line.
With this in place would this RAM be better?
Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB DDR3, 2133MHz, 1.6V, CL11, 2x8GB

And onto the graphics.. I would like this rig to last for a few years and don't mind putting money into a graphics card. However there are so many of them that I keep getting lost.
This is the one I keep coming back to-
HD7950 3GB Vapox-X Graphics Card - http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0091MFBZC/?tag=pcp0f-21
But then a search for 7950 3gb throws up a bunch of different variants, MSI, ASUS , gigabyte all with diff prices and I semm to be going in circles with regards to graphics.

Does this look to be an improvement over the original proposed build? Again, much appreciated.
 
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TheWorldsOnF1re

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Sorry, this is the new suggestion. And the case is probably the only non negotiable part of the equation. Yes, probably overpriced but I love the aesthetic and the R.A.T. 5 white edition will go nicely with it.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1SQ5p
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1SQ5p/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1SQ5p/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£118.69 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£78.66 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£244.86 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Stryker (White) ATX Full Tower Case (£127.18 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply
Total: £797.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-25 01:52 BST+0100)
 
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SSD would definitely improve your overall experience, but its not essential.

With RAM I'd stick with basic 1.5V 1600Mhz stuff. You'll get performance increases from spending more, but it really isn't worth it most of the time. 8Gb is plenty sufficient for any game/application to run fine, with plenty of headroom. If you find yourself multitasking a lot, then you can justify getting 16Gb.

Corsair GS series is solid enough, but they are a bit "style over substance", LEDs and stuff. There's no price listed there so I dunno how much you are intending on paying. As a general piece of advice, in the UK the XFX Core series and Seasonic M12 are always a good bet. Both come with 5 year warranties and most of their ranges have been upgraded/certified as Haswell compatible.

Graphics can seem pretty daunting, especially at the moment as both AMD and Nvidia have new(ish) product lines and the older cards are being reduced all the time.
What I can say for sure is that £245 on a HD7950 is not a good deal. At that price range, you can pick up a HD7970 or R9 280X, both of which represent better performance.
In the sub £200 bracket, the the GTX760 is perhaps the best option, as there are a good selection of cards.
While it only adds to the confusion, it's also worth considering what is bundled. Nvidia are bundling the latest Batman game, AMD are still running "Never settle" which if you buy a HD7950/7970 gets you a pick of 3 games from a selection.
How much you "need"/want to spend is up to you really, and dependant on your expectations and your display resolution, but neither of the games you mentioned are very demanding (though I know they are both pretty heavily modded with skews things) so I'm inclined to say you can comfortably reduce your graphics spend.
 
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