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Troublemak3r

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Upgrading the PC with 1000€ right know I'm thinking of buying:
-Fx 8350
-HD 7970 Ghz Edition from sapphire
-Sabertooth 990fx R2.0
Maybe a new power supply and liquid cooling (don't know)

I use to have :
Asus p6t deluxe
i7 920
Hd 5900
Corsair TX650 w
Corsair 6gb and 3gb ram can't remember what the exact name was the box is gone
Lancool coolermaster case
 
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Pick a I7 4770k and an Asus Z87-Pro

Review of the Asus Z87-Pro along with other board here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z87-haswell-motherboard-review,3524-31.html

Depending on where you live it will set you back with 550$ or 485 EUR (but that is from the most expensive web shops +shipping without any rebate/promo code or any kind of price reduction). Price in $ taken from newegg while price in EUR is from alternate.de, alternate.nl and alternate.fr. Complete that with a 400 EUR Sapphire HD7970 Ghz Vapor chamber and a good set of DDR3 RAM for 80 EUR and you have leftover for a new CPU cooler (since your old one doesn't have 1150 socket mounting and maybe you can't get one).
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Depends on what you do. If you do anything heavy threaded like rendering then the fx 8350 is going to be a good investment.If you are going to game then the picture is different. If you already have a 920, then hold off. The 920 is still a very capable CPU. For comparison take a look at:

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=836&page=5

The FX-8350 is a tad faster than the 8150 so expect few more frames then the 8350. Overall, it is not a good investment. I would recommend to buy a new beefy GPU, and wait until next AMD release or get a Intel 1150/1155 platform.
 
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It's for gaming specifically bf4 and I would like to play it on ultra with decent frames and I was planing to over clock the CPU I only chose amd because bf4 runs better on amd components
 
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I do agree to some extend and I would also go with an AMD video card. GPU wise Battlefied 4 may run better on AMD components but this is only true for the GPU part of a system. The truth is in the high-end desktop (I5, I7 FX 6***, FX 8***) AMD is at a big loss.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-13.html

// note that this bench doesn't show Haswell. Stock Haswell is even faster then the AMD chips.

With the exception of few titles, in which the FX catches up to Intel, all others result in 10-20 frames in favor of Intel. What I am trying to point out is - even if a game is highly optimized for an AMD CPU, this will only make Intel and AMD equal. If the game has no optimization for either AMD, nor Intel CPUs - then Intel wins by a wide margin.

The FX will bring you so much improvement that probably you wouldn't notice it. The bench I posted in the previous post shows that in 80% of the time, the 920 and fx8350 are side-by-side.

Now, I am not an Intel die-hard fanboy, I just use and recommend what is best. If I have to confess, I am an ATI (I know, I know, it's AMD now) fan. Currently I am using an nVidia and it is the first nVidia I have ever bought. And probably the last one - the software I use is finally migrating from CUDA to OpenCL and AMD rules that region. I would just love to pick an Asus HD7750 with passive cooling, slam it in the box, kick the screw in place, bang the case panel and enjoy some awesome OpenCL performance for the price. But alas, my software still uses CUDA. The point I am trying to make is that you should buy what suits your needs, not the brand.

Cheers.
 
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Pick a I7 4770k and an Asus Z87-Pro

Review of the Asus Z87-Pro along with other board here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z87-haswell-motherboard-review,3524-31.html

Depending on where you live it will set you back with 550$ or 485 EUR (but that is from the most expensive web shops +shipping without any rebate/promo code or any kind of price reduction). Price in $ taken from newegg while price in EUR is from alternate.de, alternate.nl and alternate.fr. Complete that with a 400 EUR Sapphire HD7970 Ghz Vapor chamber and a good set of DDR3 RAM for 80 EUR and you have leftover for a new CPU cooler (since your old one doesn't have 1150 socket mounting and maybe you can't get one).
 
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The I7-920 consumes more power than then 4770k. You have to go with an amazingly high OC to get the same power consumption on the 4770k as with the I7-920. If your PSU is in good shape (no swollen capacitors, etc) then keep it.

The Intel stock fan is very bad. For comparison, inside a Cooler Master HAF 912+, my I7-2700k peaked at 76C under full load (and to ensure long life of a CPU I always recommend to be 10C below the stated safe temp, which for Sandy Bridge is 72.5 C). With a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO temps dropped down to 51C. I picked the Hyper 212 EVO at a store for 26 EUR (no discounts, rebates or any price reduction whatsoever). That is 26 EUR well invested.
 
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