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I was set on getting a hybrid, but now considering SSD. Seems like a great performance upgrade over ol' HDD.

However, I did my research among people who use their computers for audio recording, which I just started to do and is now my main use besides everyday computing.

Within the audo recording realm, SSD is highly regarded as inferior to HDD because of degradation with all the writing and deleting that the drive has to endure that recording music requires; people seem to be saying while SSD might be superior to HDD for most other uses, for recording, it isn't.

Now I'm considering going back to HDD and just getting something like a 10k rpm hard drive, but I was wondering if anybody here can shed some light or insight on this topic.
 
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Hybrid drives only have an SSD cache, it will monitor the most frequently accessed files and store them within the SSD cache so that when you need those files it will arrive faster. It wont be as fast as a pure SSD or SSD+HDD situation (depending on what your calling on) but it will be faster than a plain HDD.

In this situation, I wouldn't worry about the SSD portions lifespan at all. It woiuld be almost entirely read load.
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Who are those people?

Just keep noted that SSD is more faster than HDD.

If you have a bigger size SSD, use it for OS & other frequently used apps.

You can record musics, but you have a option to store the files in another drive. Thats what you need to. Store the files in HDD.
 
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SSD's do have a limited number of write/delete cycles before the flash degrades, such is an inherent part of the technology against a traditional HDD. However I wouldn't worry about it, first gen SSD's were known to degrade quickly, but modern ones have so many redundancies (hidden capacity to distribute) writes and software functions (TRIM, Firmware level garbage collection) to conserve its lifespan that it will be far outdated by the time it degrades.

You can also just get drives with stronger flash that will withstand more cycles, the 840 Pro would be a good choice if your going to be thrashing the drive a fair bit.
 
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Faster yes, but if it degrades more then that's a disadvantage. During Audio Recording, every second of every minute you are performing functions such as writing or deleting on the HDD, not just reading, which is where SSD seems to excel at. I use a laptop so I believe I can only have one drive-either an SSD, an HDD, or a hybrid. I can't have two drives, one for my OS and one for storage, etcetera.

Here are a few examples where people have said this for audio recording. I could get many more examples but I won't-people within the audio recording spectrum all seem to agree that SSD isn't sufficient for the writing needs of recording:

"There's also the BIG disadvantage that solid state drives have a LOT less writeability before bits start to become corrupted, and if you're planning to record alot, then delete, then record, then delete, etc, then the lifespan of a solid state disk is something to worry about."
-original link (2nd post down): http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/565180-ssd-vs-hdd-studio-recording.html

"I wouldn't use an SSD to record audio, because due to technical reasons they allow only a limited number of writings (but an unlimited number of readings) per memory cell.
IMO it doesn't make sense to use an SSD for every day recording, unless you record a really huge amount of tracks simultaneously. "
-original link (2nd post down): http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=112167

"Ssd's wear under write the more you write the more the ssd degrades. Its best to use ssd's as os drive where you install once and the majority of your drive operations are reads."
-original link (9th post down): http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/757489-better-record-internal-ssd-external-hdd.html

"Also SSD not that awasome in writing, it had great response in reading data but not at writing it..."
-original link (3rd post down): http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/286809-32-recording-high-quality-video

 
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Yea, but I mean a hybrid (Seagate) only has 8 GB that are used for SSD. Is it really that big of a difference?

I mean I guess I could I do an SSD for my laptop drive, then use an external HDD since they're so cheap.

 
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Hybrid drives only have an SSD cache, it will monitor the most frequently accessed files and store them within the SSD cache so that when you need those files it will arrive faster. It wont be as fast as a pure SSD or SSD+HDD situation (depending on what your calling on) but it will be faster than a plain HDD.

In this situation, I wouldn't worry about the SSD portions lifespan at all. It woiuld be almost entirely read load.
 
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yea I noticed, sorry, had to work through it. thank you
 
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