What should Nvidia do now?

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this6guy

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Just a speculation thread on how green team might react to the R9-290X

If I were Nvidia I'd drop the 780 to $450, rebadge Titan as 780 Ti at $650, and sell the full GK110 chip with higher clock rates as Titan Ultra at $1000.

Again, it's just a speculation thread. What are your thoughts guys?
 
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Deus Gladiorum

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They'll lower the cost of Titan to $700 at least, and the GTX 780 to $450 - $500 probably and the GTX 770 to $300 - $350, at least, that'd make sense to me. But they still have tricks up their sleeve. G-Sync will only be supported by the GTX 660 and up, and that might be enough to keep some people buying. I can't wait for G-Sync, and I already have a GTX 770. Now I'm just waiting for that GTX 790 and Super Titan to come blazing through and see those wreck the R9 290X, though clearly right now the R9 290X is the main attraction in the toy store window.
 
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If nvidia wants to they don't need to drop the price on titan. Just just need to restructure their pricing on the 700 series. For a gamer titan does not make sense right now but for developer that can afford to get tesla for their gpgpu needs titan at 1k is a steal for them. The interesting part right now is 780 Ti than nvidia announce during the TWIMTBP event in montreal. I'd expect that to be fully enabled GK110. Also it is interesting that when JHH show the card to the public he mention 'fast, cool and quiet' a few times. Maybe nvidia will know that 290X will be hot and noisy even before the official review is out
 
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I think you're oversimplifying. The divide between Nvidia and AMD isn't like the divide between AMD and Intel. In fact, it's not really much of a divide at all. It's clear from technologies such as Mantal and G-Sync that Nvidia isn't just sitting back and watching AMD try to catch up. They're totally in competition with one another and neither has a clear advantage right now.
 
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if i was nvidia head guy and amd crashed our party I would then call up guys at big review web pages and show off there next gen card even if it and eng samples or send some sample out with no nds let people know when the foundry yeilds are better there going to drop an amd killer card.
I would also take the gpu they have now..boost them and then sell them at a better price point.
 
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They haven't told us anything about what the 780 Ti is, and most people suspect its a rebranded Titan. No need to throw your high handedness down on us unknowledgeable peasants your highness.
 
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I don't think the 780Ti will be anything new or amazing, there already isn't much room between a Titan and 780 so performance wise it will be nothing new. What would be more interesting is if it takes the 780's pricepoint and bumps everything down a price tier, that would be a good move to combat the 290X.

Of course there is also the speculation that the 780Ti is a completely new card and architecture, essentially being a Maxwell card released a generation early. I would guess in the Maxwell lineup it would be the equivalent of a GTX 870 or 860ti. Its not unheard of to do this, AMD did it with the 7790, exact same as the 260X except for a VRAM upgrade.

If I were either side, I would start working on more features like Mantle, PhysX, G-Sync, TrueAudio and the like. Current top end cards at 1080p, there isn't any difference, all will run your games at 60fps. Until 4K becomes viable for the average gamer, the performance crown becomes irrelevant until we have the monitor to use its full potential, so until then, more features or maybe AMD/Nvidia could subsidize the cost of such displays to hasten its arrival to the desktop.

Whatever happens, it can only be good for us.
 
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Deus Gladiorum

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+1

You got burned, and rightfully so.
 
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There is absolutely no doubt that Nvidia will come out with a GTX 780 Ti or Titan Ultra card that outperforms the 290x. Now that they know where the bar is set, its a simple thing to increase clock speeds, enable shaders, and do what they need to make sure there is a good few percentage points lead. It's exactly what happened with the 290X, they knew where the bar was set and created this "Uber" mode to get it there. Unfortunately, they sacrificed everything to get there in terms of heat, power, and noise, but hey who cares? In Quiet mode, 290X just doesn't quite have what it takes to edge out Titan.
 
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You should really recheck benchmarks because the quiet BIOS edges out Titan most of the time too, and when it doesn't outperform the Titan, the difference in fps isn't even an integer.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290x-hawaii-review,3650-10.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290x-hawaii-review,3650-14.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-290x-hawaii-review,3650-8.html

The same is the case at 4k. I have no idea where you're getting your info from.
 
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