Curious about a CPU and GPU Overclock

As far as max temp for this chip, it's stable at 62*C, and core's stop during torture test at 64*C. But for the vcore, people said to worry at 70*C+.
And the CPU's max Voltage is 1.55.

The video card runs nicely. It's a 3GB with 192 bit, so yes-it does hold back a little. But I still can get more by boosting the Core clock, and to stablize it I would have to increase the power limit. I've flashed BIOS on GPUs before, and the chances of bricking are minimal if done in a safe environment. (And not during a storm lol)

But that wasn't what I asked necessarily.
I increased the LLC to Ultra High from High due to vdroops from 1.40635 to 1.38. Now it ran at 1.416 from a 1.40635. (So temps of course increased)
The reason it hit 60*C was because I had it on silent for a little bit, and the RPM didn't actually go above 3000, (Max is 1980) Just a error when reset HWM for some reason.

Starting Torture Test:


Torture Test for 1 hour:


An Error displayed when changing my Multiplier through AS Suite 2 instead of BIOS:


A frequency only dreamed of Just thought I'd share it.


But what I'm asking is if it'll be ok to run at 5 or 4.8 Ghz. Obviously it won't pass the Torture Test, but it might pass the regular test from Prime95. The Torture Test tests absolute stability, pushing the CPU to limits otherwise un-achievable.
Where as the regular test runs the CPU at 100%-but it runs alot cooler. With that said, should I run at 4.8/5ghz frequency if The CPU will be within it's thermal limits of Crysis 3 and possibly Prime95 Test (not torture).

My RAM:G.Skill 2x8GB

Overclocked to 2133 @ 10-11-10-31 @1.65v:

My computer is on about 12-14 hours a day, not 24/7. But are they using the torture test, or the standard test. Second I'll monitor my temperatures. But what I'm asking if I have 4.8 ghz for instance, at ~1.45v, and it's stable but hits thermal limits for torture but not the regular test from prime, can i run the 4.8 ghz nonstop since it will not be at 100% 100% of the time, it will be ~75% while gaming-100% video rendering and ~5-10% for browsing...etc..
As far as games crashing, I had that issue-but when I used custom torture and used all my RAM, some cores after 30min stopped-I was low on voltage. And games crashing could be from drivers, bad gpu oc's or ram...numerous things.

I understand how it degrades-I'll upgrade my CPU in a year anyway . And AMD can't run higher do to their safety precautions. And the 8120 at 64*C -cores shutdown to prevent damage when they hit that temperature.

It's not possible to go above 62 as I've stated. The cores turn off to prevent damage

Tomorrow I'll try to go around 4.8-5ghz and run some tests and post my results.

Just wondering how I can create a graph as such:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/O/R/406539/original/arma-19-frot.png

Sorry I meant 64*C. AMDs recommended Max is 62*C.
And yes I am running Cool and Quiet.
Temperature on 4.55 1.406v is 33 idle on Silent Mode.

Thought you wanted my idle because my load temps are in the posts above
But what do you mean my TJ Max is variable, how?

Hmm, strange. A variable TJ Max

Torture Test for 1 hour:

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(1.406 with ultra high LLC-1.416 under load)

Okay so here's an update. I can get the RAM at 2400 with a bus at 250, but the CPU gets hot at 4.5, 64*C almost instantly.
So I kept the bus at 233, increased the multiplier to 20.
Putting my frequency at 4676Mhz. I have the RAM at 1.7v @2133 @10-11-10-31 2T. (1T is ridiculously unpredictably unstable).
Increase CPU voltage from 1.406 to 1.45 to stabilize the higher frequency without fault.
Note that with Very High 75% LLC the Voltage boosts to ~1.464 during load.
With that said, running the Fans at 100% during Torture Test at the absolute highest settings for CPU and almost max RAM usage, the test passes for about 5 minutes before hitting 63*C and stopping one of the cores tests. But this is not a bad thing, because what will strain my CPU to this limits non stop? It's stable though.

So I went into Crysis 3 and changed my Settings to FXAA and 16x AA (For some reason my vsync is 30hz in Crysis 3-but everything else it's 60hz )-But I didn't want to play the mission for the millionth time :lol:
I had Kraken Control at Extreme, not 100% during the play-through.
The Temperature of the CPU never ex ceded 52.8*C
And I will run the benchmarks and Prime95 regular test and update this with the results. Just wanted to add this for now.
Pictures, because everybody loves them.

Prime95 Settings:


Idle:


Thermal Limit Torture Test:


Crysis 3 Mission 2 Full play-through (Setting Images as well):




Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
38264, 1315438, 0, 48, 29.088
(Not sure how it hit 0, it never stuttered, or lagged-I think it was just a bug)
(Working on graphing the Frames now)


Okay so Catzilla went up to 6775, so a 3 point boost. Where as 3D mark went down! 4990 on firestrike,

Not really worth the Temperature Rise for barely any performance increase. I'll probably conitnue this when I get a couple more fans, go full push/pull(currently with 3 fans lol). And I'm going add a fan to blow from 5.25" drive bay onto VRM's, and a Sidepanel mod 140mm fan exhaust behind the CPU and VRM's. This'll further improve my temperature threshold.

Prior UEFI Settings at 4.55Mhz @1.406v:


Current UEFI Settings at 4.67 @1.45v:

Added to a previous post. But the worker stopped because it hit 64*C, not because it's unstable. The CPU does that when it hits that temperature.
Also, I'm not running at 2400 RAM, I'm running at 2133. (Don't skim through).
As for the graph-the drops aren't too big. It's not dropping to 0, the chart is from 15-35FPS, not 0-35.
And the drops are usually when you go to cinematics, (I have a slow HDD).
And it lowered because, if you've every played the game-you know how that mission gets later on.(The drops aren't instant and rapid) That chart is playing over 20 minutes, not 60 seconds.

I think your mixing up tests and results. And a bottleneck is by no way 80%+. A bottleneck is 99-100%. " bottleneck is a phenomenon by which the performance or capacity of an entire system is severely limited by a single component. Formally, a bottleneck lies on a system's critical path and provides the lowest throughput."
And my CPU "throttles" itself at 64*C (or stops a core briefly) because I have cool n quiet by CPU enabled. (SpeedStep for intel).
You also are not considering that I have a decent(But not great) Single GPU. So to further improve performance in Crysis 3, I must now OC the GPU more or get a new better one. (Not worth SLI) Simply because it is at 98-99% usage (Bottleneck). I won't be able to push more out of the game without flashing its BIOS to increase the TDP limits for a higher Clock speed. (And ending in higher benchmarkings as well)
As for memory, it is not an issue at 2133. It passes memtests and I haven't had an issue with this OC. AMD and Intel work differently, I don't know how much experience you have with AMD-but the memory controller recommends 1866. But with 990fx chipset and OC'ing the CPU's, people are able to achieve 2400+ RAM frequencies. Just because a stick of RAM is rated at a certain speed doesn't mean you can't achieve higher, otherwise the same could go for CPU's. (I'm running this 3.1Ghz CPU at 4.67Ghz)
And increasing its speed doesn't increase CPU usage by much, having too little RAM affects it more. Higher frequency increases CPU temperature (More memory controller usage-Need more voltage->CPU NB AMD, VCCIO-Intel)

Another things to note, with Crysis 3, there's an issue for SP to MP. In singleplayer, people with roughly 40fps get around 65+ in Multiplayer. Alot of Physics in SinglePlayer and other things. In BF4 without this OC i was getting an average of 50FPS.
Not sure how it'll look like a slideshow though if Blu-Ray at 1080p is 24FPS, and no one complains.
Crysis 3 had V-sync on though, so I was limited to 30FPS as well, which I mentioned. (I have a 60hz screen-which is why I was confused by this)

So I wouldn't say the CPU isn't powerful enough-I'd consider the GPU before the CPU.

Just tested it another way. Put fans on Silent mode-Played Crysis 3. At 60*C displayed by the temperature probe (100% accurate)-the game started stuttering. 61*C BOOM! it froze. I actually had to hard reset my PC :lol:. So Extreme, ~55*C. No problems.

My GPU hits 99% constant, sometimes drops to 98, and sometimes hit 100%(Rare lol)
As for the Overclocking, should I increase the memory clock more. And keep the core clock at it's pre OC settings?
Because it's 3gb vRAM and I'm on 1080p-so the faster rendering and peed should help-I would assume so. (Because a 50 boost of core clock make crysis 3 unstable with v sync off.
Also is there a way to record average CPU usage like there is FPS?

Here are some shocking results.
My CPU was about 60% usage through the mission. (Where ~10% was from Audio Enhancers)
I noticed my Frame drops were from loading and saving. So every checkpoint and cinematic, the game did lag for a split second. HDD issue. Also everytime I engaged the enemy and it loaded an audio for them to speak-it doesn't lag from explosions and sudden changes. Just loading-I have a 5 year old HDD with 7200RPM and 8mb or so cache, so it's garbage. lol

Highest Usage and Temperature (Silent Mode) -2170 RAM vSync off Medium Blur FXAA x16AA Mission 2 of Crysis 3:

Note that if I increase the value of any of the Clock speeds by 1, the game crashes if I have vsync disabled. At 125+ Memory, 80+ Clock with vsync, I have no issue running through the game.

CPU Usage through the Mission (Enabled once loaded the misson, disabled once Third Mission started loading-Alt-Tab Stop):

This proves it is pretty heavy for the CPU, but not bottlenecked by it by any means. Min: 25.9%, Max: 86.6%, Average:49.56%
Working on FPS Charts as it takes longer to make-And wanted this posted.
Edit:
Average FPS:34.82
Min FPS: 19
Highest FPS: 51
FPS Chart:


Not sure this is really comparable since the GPU is the Bottleneck, so comparing CPU usage to FPS doesn't really display too too much. But here it is, FPS on left, CPU Usage on the right, Seconds on the Bottom (Points used were every 5 seconds):