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October 28, 2013 11:57:42 AM

ok heres the deal, i am saving up money to buy either a new gpu; OR mobo and cpu together. i've got a choice between: Motherboard: P8Z68-V/GEN3 and CPU: i5-3570S OR; GPU: GTX 660 Ti Zotac AMP edition (or) GTX 660 twin frozr 3 OC edition. so right now i've got G41M-SP20 motherboard and Q8400 CPU my current GPU is Palit GTX 460 768MB green edition.

Strictly from these two choises which one should i get first Mobo and CPU or GPU because im gonna upgrade one of them now and other later in a few months.

P.S my psu is OCZ CoreXStream True 500Watt 80+

P.S does the P8Z68-V/GEN3 have overclocking?
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October 28, 2013 12:02:23 PM

Go for the graphic card if you want to boost up your performance.
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October 28, 2013 12:06:52 PM

Odd that you'd want to pair up a 3rd gen Core processor with a 2nd gen 1155 MB. Nothing wrong with that. It will work fine. Just be sure the MB has the latest BIOS so it recognizes the 3rd gen processor before you buy it.

To answer your question, I'd suggest getting the CPU/MB first as a practical matter. But if you want instant gratification gaming right now, go for the card first.
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October 28, 2013 12:29:46 PM

clutchc said:
Odd that you'd want to pair up a 3rd gen Core processor with a 2nd gen 1155 MB. Nothing wrong with that. It will work fine. Just be sure the MB has the latest BIOS so it recognizes the 3rd gen processor before you buy it.

To answer your question, I'd suggest getting the CPU/MB first as a practical matter. But if you want instant gratification gaming right now, go for the card first.


hmm and does this mobo support overclocking? because as i read 3570S can boost up to 3.8 ghz from 3.1 and i really want that to be possible and also if my psu will be enough for all this. and i decided i will buy cpu and mobo first and then ill sell my gpu add up some money and buy the gtx 660 twin frozr 3
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October 28, 2013 1:12:50 PM

Yes, all Z68 MBs supported O/C'ing well. But that isn't needed for the integrated Turbo Boost that will automatically take it from 3.1GHZ to 3.8GHZ when needed.

Your PSU is going to be marginal for anything more demanding than the GTX 660, especially if you O/C CPU and GPU. I'm not familiar with the "CoreXstream" line of OCZ PSUs. OCZ makes some good ones and some not so good: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
Figuring worse case scenario, maybe you should upgrade that too.

If you're looking to O/C your CPU, maybe you should be looking into a "K" processor instead of an "S". "S" are made for low power efficiency.
October 28, 2013 2:06:10 PM

clutchc said:
Yes, all Z68 MBs supported O/C'ing well. But that isn't needed for the integrated Turbo Boost that will automatically take it from 3.1GHZ to 3.8GHZ when needed.

Your PSU is going to be marginal for anything more demanding than the GTX 660, especially if you O/C CPU and GPU. I'm not familiar with the "CoreXstream" line of OCZ PSUs. OCZ makes some good ones and some not so good: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
Figuring worse case scenario, maybe you should upgrade that too.

If you're looking to O/C your CPU, maybe you should be looking into a "K" processor instead of an "S". "S" are made for low power efficiency.


i really tried hard to find the 3570k but i found none in my country and city where i am and i cant afford any more expensive cpu and mobo than that. now i checked the MSI GTX 660 Twin Frozr III OC and i found that it only needs one 6 pin power connector to power it and i also checked the q8400 power consumtion and it takes more power then the 3570s. (Q8400 max tdp is 95W; 3570S is 65W) minimum psu for the gtx 660 twin frozr 3 was True 450 Watt PSU. my OCZ CXS can pull up to 580Watt's so i THINK (im not sure) that my psu should handle those parts that i mentioned. im also planning to upgrade the ram, i currently have 6GB of ram but i think ill upgrade the ram last in the list but still i thin that my psu should be able to pull it off but ill triple check everything because i dont want to blow up my pc. Thanks A LOT for your fast answers friends and have a good night.

P.S i will not be overclocking GPU when i get it because its already boosted to 1033mhz and other high speeds.
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October 28, 2013 2:09:34 PM

I'd do the CPU/motherboard first, then the graphics card later.
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October 28, 2013 2:16:17 PM

If you've been running that PSU with a heavier load than what you intend to replace it with, then it should be fine. My only other concern is the BIOS version of the Z68 MB. It would have to have the 3402 BIOS or later to recognize the newer CPU. Is there any way you can confirm it does? If it doesn't recognize the newer processor, you will need an older (gen 2) processor to update the BIOS on your own.
October 29, 2013 2:15:20 AM

clutchc said:
If you've been running that PSU with a heavier load than what you intend to replace it with, then it should be fine. My only other concern is the BIOS version of the Z68 MB. It would have to have the 3402 BIOS or later to recognize the newer CPU. Is there any way you can confirm it does? If it doesn't recognize the newer processor, you will need an older (gen 2) processor to update the BIOS on your own.


now i will find out what bios version it has and if it doesnt have the supported one there are plenty of service centers in my city where i can bring the mobo and theill update the bios in a few minutes and i can test the mobo and cpu for any side effects or damages if it has them. now i did think about something, once i get the motherboard and cpu i will sell my old motherboard and old cpu and i should be able to get some cash. now im thinking to sell my gpu too with my old mobo and cpu and get even better i5 cpu then this one AND the gtx 660 twin frozr because i should have enough add-up money to get a better cpu and afford the gtx 660. so i would like some opinions about this too. Thanks Very much for your fast answers and youve been a big help!

i also want to know one more thing. i just found i7-3770K and its price is not very high. so i want to know if the mobo will be able to run it after the bios update and i would also like to know if it will do great in gaming. i checked its tdp and things and it looks awesome. i think im gonna have the i5 cpu for a few weeks and then when i sell the old parts im gonna buy this cpu with the gtx and my pc SHOULD be i think, good enough to max out some modern games.

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October 29, 2013 10:35:34 AM
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The small difference in wattage from the i5 to the i7 shouldn't make much difference as far as PSU power goes. So you should be OK there. As long as you have the BIOS issue covered, you should be good there too. I don't know how much frame rate improvement you'll see in games between the i5 and the i7, but the i7 K processor will be great for O/C'ing. Just remember, the more you O/C CPU or GPU, the more power the PSU has to be able to deliver.

I can vouch for the MSI Twin Frozr line of gfx cards. They are really well designed and have nice big heat pipes. Well made cards. I have two GTX 660 OC Twin Frozr cards in my rig in my sig. They stay nice and cool no matter how stressful the game is. I used to have a GTX 560ti Twin Frozr before in a different rig. It too was a great card. Hated to get rid of it.
October 29, 2013 11:16:24 AM

clutchc said:
The small difference in wattage from the i5 to the i7 shouldn't make much difference as far as PSU power goes. So you should be OK there. As long as you have the BIOS issue covered, you should be good there too. I don't know how much frame rate improvement you'll see in games between the i5 and the i7, but the i7 K processor will be great for O/C'ing. Just remember, the more you O/C CPU or GPU, the more power the PSU has to be able to deliver.

I can vouch for the MSI Twin Frozr line of gfx cards. They are really well designed and have nice big heat pipes. Well made cards. I have two GTX 660 OC Twin Frozr cards in my rig in my sig. They stay nice and cool no matter how stressful the game is. I used to have a GTX 560ti Twin Frozr before in a different rig. It too was a great card. Hated to get rid of it.


so 3770k will do very good at gaming right? if this is it, then it's settled im buying the motherboard P8Z68-V/GEN3, CPU i7-3770K with GTX 660 twin frozr and my dream pc will be completed. a little bit later when i have cash ill also upgrade psu and ram and then i can die happy! thank you friend. you have helped me very very much !!!!
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October 29, 2013 11:38:51 AM

You can't do much better than the high-end i5's for gaming. The i7's provide more power for heavily multi-threaded apps and such. But for gaming, the i5 is about all you need. As future games maybe become more heavily-threaded and make use of more system memory, that may change. But for now, that is the way to go. Enjoy.
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