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GTX 650 Ti 2GB Boost scores 1100 points higher than a GTS 250 1Gb

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October 28, 2013 8:26:13 PM

I am 'so mad ..'
3D Mark score joke
GTS 250 Ice Storm: 42678
GTX 650 Ti Boost Ice Storm: 43767
1100 fuggin' points?
(Ok enough rant. Edited due to being answered.
Thanks Everyone for your patience.)
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October 28, 2013 8:27:51 PM

Check your performance in games, The 650 Ti Boost isn't that much more powerful than the 470. The boost performs a little slower than a 570

Here's a comparison between the 570 and 470, just close the distance a little in your mind
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/518?vs=519
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October 28, 2013 8:41:16 PM

rolandzhang3 said:
Check your performance in games, The 650 Ti Boost isn't that much more powerful than the 470. The boost performs a little slower than a 570

Here's a comparison between the 570 and 470, just close the distance a little in your mind
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/518?vs=519


I am indeed beside myself right now. If it can barely outperform a GTS 250 why in the world would I care about the 570 now? That would be comical. Ha ..

My only benefit for the upgrade? HDMI out
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October 28, 2013 8:44:51 PM

Dude, you're using an Athlon II X2 CPU! It's bottlenecking the hell out of that card! Get a REAL gaming CPU like at least a Phenom II X4!!!

I honestly can't believe that nobody else noticed that. LOL

Also keep in mind that the GTS 250 is just a done-up 8800 GTX that only supports DX10. Even the Radeon cards of that era were DX10.1 while the GTX 650 Ti is a DX11 card. That's a huge benefit alone.
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October 28, 2013 8:48:23 PM

Avro Arrow said:
Dude, you're using an Athlon II X2 CPU! It's bottlenecking the hell out of that card! Get a REAL gaming CPU like at least a Phenom II X4!!!

I honestly can't believe that nobody else noticed that. LOL


I have. And the Athlon 2 x4 605e is in my thoughts. Same 45w thermal temp as I am currently running. Should pop right in.

footnote: my past cards were both an 8800GT, then a 9800 GT.
The GTS 250 performed leaps and bounds above the 9800GT
I've owned this GTS 250 since Feb 2010 and paid $115 for it new.
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October 28, 2013 9:05:15 PM

magneezo said:
I have. And the Athlon 2 x4 605e is in my thoughts. Same 45w thermal temp as I am currently running. Should pop right in.

footnote: my past cards were both an 8800GT, then a 9800 GT.
The GTS 250 performed leaps and bounds above the 9800GT
I've owned this GTS 250 since Feb 2010 and paid $115 for it new.

Well, here's how it works. The 8800 GTS became the 9600 GT. The 8800 GT became the 9800 GT. The 8800 GTX became the 9800GTX+ and was rebranded to the GTS 450. The differences were that the 9xxx series used PCI-Express v2.0 instead of v1.0 (which effectively doubled the bandwidth). So you went from a PCI-Express v1.0 8800 GT to a PCI-Express v2.0 8800 GTX. So yeah, the difference would be huge. Remember that the CPU at those low levels handles it fine. Once you get into cards that annihilate those older ones, you get bottlenecking. If I were you, I would get a Phenom, not an Athlon II because I used to run a Phenom II X4 940 and then a 965 and they didn't bottleneck my two HD 4870s in crossfire. I gamed happily with that setup for about four years.
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October 28, 2013 9:06:06 PM

rolandzhang3 said:
Yeah woops didn't read that Athlon, no wonder you see only a tiny benefit between the two

Check this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdo75gasaQ

I just have to get a new processor. I know that. but it has to be 95W or less unles a BIOS flash could raise the temp limit. I know nothing of changing that.
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October 28, 2013 9:11:36 PM

Avro Arrow said:
magneezo said:
I have. And the Athlon 2 x4 605e is in my thoughts. Same 45w thermal temp as I am currently running. Should pop right in.

footnote: my past cards were both an 8800GT, then a 9800 GT.
The GTS 250 performed leaps and bounds above the 9800GT
I've owned this GTS 250 since Feb 2010 and paid $115 for it new.

Well, here's how it works. The 8800 GTS became the 9600 GT. The 8800 GT became the 9800 GT. The 8800 GTX became the 9800GTX+ and was rebranded to the GTS 450. The differences were that the 9xxx series used PCI-Express v2.0 instead of v1.0 (which effectively doubled the bandwidth). So you went from a PCI-Express v1.0 8800 GT to a PCI-Express v2.0 8800 GTX. So yeah, the difference would be huge. Remember that the CPU at those low levels handles it fine. Once you get into cards that annihilate those older ones, you get bottlenecking. If I were you, I would get a Phenom, not an Athlon II because I used to run a Phenom II X4 940 and then a 965 and they didn't bottleneck my two HD 4870s in crossfire. I gamed happily with that setup for about four years.

Phenom II X4 940
Thermal Design Power 125 Watt (Socket AM2+/Socket AM3)
139.6 Watt (Socket AM2)

My board can't do 125 watts
currently
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October 28, 2013 9:14:05 PM

magneezo said:
rolandzhang3 said:
Yeah woops didn't read that Athlon, no wonder you see only a tiny benefit between the two

Check this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdo75gasaQ

I just have to get a new processor. I know that. but it has to be 95W or less unles a BIOS flash could raise the temp limit. I know nothing of changing that.

Well, there were versions of the Phenom II that were 95W. They're kind of hard to find now though. A question, is your motherboard AM3 or AM3+? If it's AM3+ then I would just get the FX-6300 and never worry again. If it's AM3, you can get an AM3+ board that will handle the FX-6300 for only $65:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Unfortunately, that board doesn't support SLI, only Crossfire. You'd need a 990FX board to also run SLI. With only one card though, it won't be a problem and if you get a Radeon card when you next upgrade, you'll be set.
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October 28, 2013 9:29:00 PM

Avro Arrow said:
magneezo said:
rolandzhang3 said:
Yeah woops didn't read that Athlon, no wonder you see only a tiny benefit between the two

Check this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdo75gasaQ

I just have to get a new processor. I know that. but it has to be 95W or less unles a BIOS flash could raise the temp limit. I know nothing of changing that.

Well, there were versions of the Phenom II that were 95W. They're kind of hard to find now though. A question, is your motherboard AM3 or AM3+? If it's AM3+ then I would just get the FX-6300 and never worry again. If it's AM3, you can get an AM3+ board that will handle the FX-6300 for only $65:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Unfortunately, that board doesn't support SLI, only Crossfire. You'd need a 990FX board to also run SLI. With only one card though, it won't be a problem and if you get a Radeon card when you next upgrade, you'll be set.

Thanks. That FX 6300 will be one I check out.


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October 28, 2013 9:32:36 PM

Thanks for the best answer. I wish you the best of luck!
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October 29, 2013 4:09:33 PM

Avro Arrow said:
Thanks for the best answer. I wish you the best of luck!


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October 30, 2013 10:25:31 AM

Sweet! Get ready for some good times! :D 
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