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October 29, 2013 10:15:40 AM

Alright so I'm planning on getting a new computer cause my current one is getting old and outdated, i have roughly $800 give or take, and I want the most out of it. I've been searching around and was thinking maybe i could build a computer instead of buying one. so i looked up Frys electronics and came up with some items.
The first list of component are a set of items ill buy and piece together to build a computer, the next three are pre-built computers with specs that were top rated in there sub-genre of computers (Gaming, Everyday, and Business) for the price I'm willing to pay.
Now i may or may not get the graphics card and sound card, I'm still undecided because i heard they're not needed. The computer will mostly be used for school (video game programming/Coding), gaming and occasional streaming(If Possible).

This will be my first time building a computer so i don't know if what i picked was good or not, i kind of picked stuff based on how much money i had to spend, any info on what i picked would be great. Frys is the only place close enough to get computer/computer parts, and i don't intend on ordering anything online.
If you could tell me what i picked was good or bad, and what is better for what i can spend. Or if i should just buy a premade computer.
And yes I know tax will be like $70 but a buddy of mine is helping me out and says he'll pay that part.
Thanks

I mostly copy and pasted specs from website
_Built_
Tower - Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Computer Case
Processor - Intel Core i5 3450 Boxed 3.1GHz 3rd Generation Processor
Motherboard - Asus P8Z77-V LE Plus Intel Z77 1155 Motherboard
Ram - DDR3 8GB 1866MHz Dual Memory
HDD - WD Desktop Mainstream 1TB Internal Hard Drive Retail Kit WDBH2D0010HNC-NRSN
CPU Cooler - Enermax White Cluster Universal Cpu Cooler
Power Supply - Thermaltake Smart 750w ATX Power Supply 80 PLUS Bronze
Graphics Card - MSI N630GT-MD4GD3 GeForce GT 630 4GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Sound Card - None (May get one if necessary)

The only info given on the premade comps were in the title
_Pre-Made_
iBuyPower Gaming PC
Case -Generic gaming tower (doesnt really matter)
Processor -Intel Core i5 3570
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -8GB DDR3
HDD -1TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Liquid Cooler
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -Nvidia GT630 2GB
Sound card -None

Hp Pavillion P6-2311b Desktop PC
Case -Generic Home Tower
Processor -Intel Core i3 3220
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -6GB DDR3
HDD -1.5TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Standard
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -None
Soundcard -None

Hp Envy H8-1430 Desktop PC
Case -Generic Home Tower
Processor -Intel Core i5 3350
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -10GB DDR3
HDD -2TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Standard
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -Nvidia GT620
Sound Card -None

October 29, 2013 10:24:09 AM

If you want to play games at more than lowest possible settings, You will need a better GPU than any of these. Also better. $150+ for a mix of medium and high settings in games.

None of these computers are very good at all.
October 29, 2013 10:28:12 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.27 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H87 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($90.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 760 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Antec Three Hundred Two ATX Mid Tower Case ($58.15 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $755.42
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-29 13:28 EDT-0400)

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October 29, 2013 10:30:39 AM

samuel32913 said:
Alright so I'm planning on getting a new computer cause my current one is getting old and outdated, i have roughly $800 give or take, and I want the most out of it. I've been searching around and was thinking maybe i could build a computer instead of buying one. so i looked up Frys electronics and came up with some items.
The first list of component are a set of items ill buy and piece together to build a computer, the next three are pre-built computers with specs that were top rated in there sub-genre of computers (Gaming, Everyday, and Business) for the price I'm willing to pay.
Now i may or may not get the graphics card and sound card, I'm still undecided because i heard they're not needed. The computer will mostly be used for school (video game programming/Coding), gaming and occasional streaming(If Possible).

This will be my first time building a computer so i don't know if what i picked was good or not, i kind of picked stuff based on how much money i had to spend, any info on what i picked would be great. Frys is the only place close enough to get computer/computer parts, and i don't intend on ordering anything online.
If you could tell me what i picked was good or bad, and what is better for what i can spend. Or if i should just buy a premade computer.
And yes I know tax will be like $70 but a buddy of mine is helping me out and says he'll pay that part.
Thanks

I mostly copy and pasted specs from website
_Built_
Tower - Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Computer Case
Processor - Intel Core i5 3450 Boxed 3.1GHz 3rd Generation Processor
Motherboard - Asus P8Z77-V LE Plus Intel Z77 1155 Motherboard
Ram - DDR3 8GB 1866MHz Dual Memory
HDD - WD Desktop Mainstream 1TB Internal Hard Drive Retail Kit WDBH2D0010HNC-NRSN
CPU Cooler - Enermax White Cluster Universal Cpu Cooler
Power Supply - Thermaltake Smart 750w ATX Power Supply 80 PLUS Bronze
Graphics Card - MSI N630GT-MD4GD3 GeForce GT 630 4GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Sound Card - None (May get one if necessary)

The only info given on the premade comps were in the title
_Pre-Made_
iBuyPower Gaming PC
Case -Generic gaming tower (doesnt really matter)
Processor -Intel Core i5 3570
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -8GB DDR3
HDD -1TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Liquid Cooler
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -Nvidia GT630 2GB
Sound card -None

Hp Pavillion P6-2311b Desktop PC
Case -Generic Home Tower
Processor -Intel Core i3 3220
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -6GB DDR3
HDD -1.5TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Standard
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -None
Soundcard -None

Hp Envy H8-1430 Desktop PC
Case -Generic Home Tower
Processor -Intel Core i5 3350
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -10GB DDR3
HDD -2TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Standard
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -Nvidia GT620
Sound Card -None



Well i would recommend building one since it is cheaper and since you are not hard core gaming you can get a $300 one that would do your needs pretty well but i would say to get something like this:
AMD Athlon X4 750K CPU: http://goo.gl/RkUcEn

MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Motherboard: http://goo.gl/WCCjN2

2GB Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X Graphics Card: http://goo.gl/2sCSdP

8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM: http://goo.gl/1JmAv6

1TB Western Digital Caviar Black Hard Drive: http://goo.gl/gCKgyq

500W Corsair CX500 Power Supply: http://goo.gl/cj2EoT

Rosewill Line-M Case: http://goo.gl/Mw8bMq

These parts make up the $600 build however since this is a custom PC feel free to customize it with some of these options!

OS - Windows 7 System Builder: http://goo.gl/uhOIH0

OS - Windows 8.1 System Builder: http://goo.gl/j6SsEn

Wi-Fi Adapter - TP-LINK TL-WDN4800: http://goo.gl/CVZvsp

Optical Drive - Lite-On DVD Burner: http://goo.gl/ksl6QQ

Hard Drive - 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black: http://goo.gl/6VEksV

If You Want A Liquid Cooler Here You Go : http://goo.gl/AM2MRY

This will play games very well, max out bf3 1080p and more than enough for what you need.
Just ask me if you need any help or want anything changed :) 
October 29, 2013 10:34:25 AM

diazalon said:
samuel32913 said:
Alright so I'm planning on getting a new computer cause my current one is getting old and outdated, i have roughly $800 give or take, and I want the most out of it. I've been searching around and was thinking maybe i could build a computer instead of buying one. so i looked up Frys electronics and came up with some items.
The first list of component are a set of items ill buy and piece together to build a computer, the next three are pre-built computers with specs that were top rated in there sub-genre of computers (Gaming, Everyday, and Business) for the price I'm willing to pay.
Now i may or may not get the graphics card and sound card, I'm still undecided because i heard they're not needed. The computer will mostly be used for school (video game programming/Coding), gaming and occasional streaming(If Possible).

This will be my first time building a computer so i don't know if what i picked was good or not, i kind of picked stuff based on how much money i had to spend, any info on what i picked would be great. Frys is the only place close enough to get computer/computer parts, and i don't intend on ordering anything online.
If you could tell me what i picked was good or bad, and what is better for what i can spend. Or if i should just buy a premade computer.
And yes I know tax will be like $70 but a buddy of mine is helping me out and says he'll pay that part.
Thanks

I mostly copy and pasted specs from website
_Built_
Tower - Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Computer Case
Processor - Intel Core i5 3450 Boxed 3.1GHz 3rd Generation Processor
Motherboard - Asus P8Z77-V LE Plus Intel Z77 1155 Motherboard
Ram - DDR3 8GB 1866MHz Dual Memory
HDD - WD Desktop Mainstream 1TB Internal Hard Drive Retail Kit WDBH2D0010HNC-NRSN
CPU Cooler - Enermax White Cluster Universal Cpu Cooler
Power Supply - Thermaltake Smart 750w ATX Power Supply 80 PLUS Bronze
Graphics Card - MSI N630GT-MD4GD3 GeForce GT 630 4GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Sound Card - None (May get one if necessary)

The only info given on the premade comps were in the title
_Pre-Made_
iBuyPower Gaming PC
Case -Generic gaming tower (doesnt really matter)
Processor -Intel Core i5 3570
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -8GB DDR3
HDD -1TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Liquid Cooler
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -Nvidia GT630 2GB
Sound card -None

Hp Pavillion P6-2311b Desktop PC
Case -Generic Home Tower
Processor -Intel Core i3 3220
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -6GB DDR3
HDD -1.5TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Standard
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -None
Soundcard -None

Hp Envy H8-1430 Desktop PC
Case -Generic Home Tower
Processor -Intel Core i5 3350
Motherboard -Unspecified
Ram -10GB DDR3
HDD -2TB SATA
CPU Cooler -Standard
Power Supply -Unspecified
Graphics Card -Nvidia GT620
Sound Card -None



Well i would recommend building one since it is cheaper and since you are not hard core gaming you can get a $300 one that would do your needs pretty well but i would say to get something like this:
AMD Athlon X4 750K CPU: http://goo.gl/RkUcEn

MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Motherboard: http://goo.gl/WCCjN2

2GB Gigabyte Radeon R9 270X Graphics Card: http://goo.gl/2sCSdP

8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM: http://goo.gl/1JmAv6

1TB Western Digital Caviar Black Hard Drive: http://goo.gl/gCKgyq

500W Corsair CX500 Power Supply: http://goo.gl/cj2EoT

Rosewill Line-M Case: http://goo.gl/Mw8bMq

These parts make up the $600 build however since this is a custom PC feel free to customize it with some of these options!

OS - Windows 7 System Builder: http://goo.gl/uhOIH0

OS - Windows 8.1 System Builder: http://goo.gl/j6SsEn

Wi-Fi Adapter - TP-LINK TL-WDN4800: http://goo.gl/CVZvsp

Optical Drive - Lite-On DVD Burner: http://goo.gl/ksl6QQ

Hard Drive - 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black: http://goo.gl/6VEksV

If You Want A Liquid Cooler Here You Go : http://goo.gl/AM2MRY

This will play games very well, max out bf3 1080p and more than enough for what you need.
Just ask me if you need any help or want anything changed :) 


This build is not great.

The PSU is low quality. CX line form corsair uses poor quality capacitors.

The CPU will bog down Heavily with animation and editing. The i5 is many times better for that

The liquid cooler is junk and will be outperformed by cheap air coolers.

Have a look at the build I posted.
October 29, 2013 10:35:38 AM

Please give specs of the old system, it may be less expensive to upgrade rather than buy/assemble a new machine-and include the monitor details.
On a budget your best option is AMD, Intel shines in games and video encoding but for general uses, and despite what benchmarks may indicate, for real world uses AMD offers more bang per (fill in local currency here) and more than adequate performance.
In the uses you mention gaming and game coding, which types of games do you play and what settings do you want top use?
October 29, 2013 10:58:14 AM

My current Specs

Cpu - Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2160
Graphics Card - Palit GeForce 9600 GT Sonic
MotherBoard - Gigabyte GA-P31-DS3L
Ram - Corsair Twin 2X2048-6400C5
Power Supply - Corsair VX450W
Tower - Cooler Master RC0331 Elite
Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE 250GB (WD2500AAJS)
OP - Windows Vista Home Premium x64 OEM

Monitor: I just have an old box monitor, I dont know the size and Im not at home to measure it.

In terms of what kind of games I play are just random mmo's (DCUO and occasionally WoW), Moba's, and other random games like sims. With graphics, I dont really care how high they are because Im just so used to running games on low settings it doesnt bother me all that much.

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October 29, 2013 12:04:35 PM
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Not convinced you'll need the raw power of an i5 and not everything takes advantage of Hyperthreading, which rules out the less expensive dual core i3s so I'll rock the boat a bit and do this:
CPU: True quad core and with a decent integrated graphics engine: $140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MB: Full sized, good expansion possibilities:$80 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Don't go cheap on the power: $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memories are made of his: $63: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And you'll need somewhere to store all the goodness: $70: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2W0...
Total: $403.
But since Vista is SO last season, add $100 for your choice of OS: Win 7 or Win 8.1, just make sure you install/purchase the 64 bit version.
New total: $503
Graphics not enough? Add a HD7750 (GDDR5 version) for <>$90
New, new total: about $600
This assumes you keep the existing case and optical drive.
October 29, 2013 12:06:50 PM

So should I keep the rest of my comp, or are you changing some components of my original post for the new build?
October 29, 2013 12:41:38 PM

I'm suggesting you keep your existing case and optical drive, nothing else, (although you could salvage the HDD as well) and put the new components into it.
And I'm suggesting an entirely different build to the one in your-and other-posts because I really don't think you need an i5 setup.
October 29, 2013 12:54:09 PM

I also actually forgot to add a new optical drive, because my current one is broken. Any suggestions on that? I don't need anything expensive since it'll mostly just be for installing things.

EDIT: I'll probably get win8 since most of my school computers use it.
October 30, 2013 6:02:22 AM

samuel32913 said:
Frys is the only place close enough to get computer/computer parts, and i don't intend on ordering anything online.


Is this still the case?

The build below would easily provide four years of "school work". Gaming would need a graphics upgrade along the way. For $800 and only at one location to buy from, this isn't a bad build. If you wanted to forget gaming for now, skip the graphics card and use the onboard HD 4600. That would drop your build to $560..

All At Frys
CPU: i5-4570 $199
MB: MSI H87-G43 $100
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 CL9 1.35v $65
HD: WD Blue 1TB $70
Video Card: Diamond HD 7870 $165 after rebate
Case: CM Elite 343 $40
Power Supply: Antec VP-450 $60
Optical Drive: LG 24x DVD-RW $25
Total: $724

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