AMD GPU's or Nvidia GPU?

Xyven · Oct 29, 2013

Hi guys, i'm planning to buy a new keyboard soon.
I have a budget of 450 dollars.

I have single monitor 1920x1080, and I'm planning on buying another GPU in 3-4 years, so this GPU has to last long. What do you guys recommend? What should I pick that will be able to handle future games? 770 4gb for my monitor, or R9 280X? Maybe 760 SLI?

I also have i7 3770k processor, and AX860 PSU (I think its way than enough for future reference)

EDIT: turns out my monitor is 24", 60 hertz, so after all, do i really need that huge graphics card? What would be best for me, for next 3 years , and suitable with my screen? I might get a second screen just for the help, would this require more VRAMS on gpu? Can anyone help me, what should i pick in this situation?

My monitor: LG M2452D, its a TV (sort of), but i use it for gaming

rolli59 · Oct 29, 2013

GTX770 2GB or R9 280X will handle everything very well on a single 1080P monitor for the for see-able future.

Xyven · Oct 29, 2013

What about GTX770 4gb? Will it be better? Is it good when comparing price to quality?

IInuyasha74 · Oct 29, 2013

You don't need 4GB, and I question if you need more than 2GB. Vram is mostly used with higher resolutions and with multiple displays. On a single monitor (a 32" TV in this case) I did a test with my 7850 2GB card using MSI Afterburner which can monitor vRAM use. After an hour of playing Tomb Raider on high settings with the resolution set to 1920x1080 I never used more than I think 1600MB of the vRam, and the textures were set to ultra.

So while other games might get higher resolution textures, its doubtful at that resolution that 2GB will be a bottleneck.

Also if I am not mistaken the R9 280x is equal to the 7970 so it should have 3GB of RAM, so you should be completely safe.

Xyven · Oct 29, 2013

If i were to choose R9 280X, what brand should I get?

IInuyasha74 · Oct 29, 2013

That is more up to you, what ever is cheapest. They are all pretty much following the reference design right now I think, so they should be about the same. Unless a few have custom ones out now.

TBC1 · Oct 29, 2013

Xyven :

I'd go with the asus dc2t 280x (most positive reviews so far) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121803

rolli59 · Oct 29, 2013

When I select cards I look mostly at the Manufacturers respectability and cooling solution then Price. One card might be faster than the other but in most cases we are talking very few fps like here where an OC 280X beats std with 3fps in BF3 http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/R9_280X_OC/7.html so I do ignore that and will buy the std card if cheaper with acceptable cooling solution.

IInuyasha74 · Oct 29, 2013

I agree with rolli59's order of looking at things. But I didn't think any of the worse companies had started selling them yet, and I didn't think any had changed the cooler design yet, but like TBC1 showed, ASUS, whichi s a good company, has one ot with a good cooler it looks like.

rolli59 · Oct 29, 2013

The R9 280X is basically a renamed HD7970 so basically quickly adopted the 7970 cooling solution since it has similar if not the same thermals.

Xyven · Nov 9, 2013

Now, being in my position, and having i7 intel processor, Is it still good to buy an AMD GPU? Cause i've heard rumors that Intel is optimized for nvidia, and same with AMD CPU's & GPU's.

I really want to purchase r9 280x since its cheaper+games like bf4 is going to be optimized with mantle.

So to summarize this, my question - should I still buy r9 280x with my intel processor?

IInuyasha74 · Nov 9, 2013

That is completely rumor and nothing more. As far as I am aware, the CPU cannot be optimized in this way. The only thing close to this is the APU's that AMD makes and that is only if you have a low end card and do crossfire with it. Otherwise the CPU won't favor Nvidia or AMD.
In fact, while it still is not favoring AMD, I would see it closer to Intel having better performs out of the AMD cards than the AMD CPU's would give in some situations. The big reason for this is that Nvidia has Physics which are only used in a few games, but require the CPU to execute the coding if you aren't using an Nvidia GPU. In this situation the Intel CPU would help the AMD card more since it is faster, and the Nvidia graphics card won't get this boost because it doesn't need it.

I would definitely buy the 280x if I was in your position.

huilun02 · Nov 9, 2013

Get an iPhone 5S it beats everything and is all you ever need. What brand Apple of course.

IInuyasha74 · Nov 9, 2013

I am going to assume you are either joking or not awake yet because that doesn't even make sens.

Xyven · Nov 9, 2013

IInuyasha74 :

Thanks! I'll be getting 280x then! Probably the asus version. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FRV9FDK/ref=s9_bbs_gw_d0_g147_i5?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-6&pf_rd_r=0FTA5BZD1XG104Y9S09A&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=430173467&pf_rd_i=468294 Do you think this is good?

IInuyasha74 · Nov 9, 2013

Asus typically makes pretty good cards and it looks like a good cooler, so I would say its a good one.
For price being in different countries, you will have to price check alone. Sorry

huilun02 · Nov 9, 2013

£290 at Amazon? It's £258 at Scan http://bit.ly/1aL0Ubg

This one is even faster http://bit.ly/HI857D
Damn that box is sexxay

Or pick what you like http://bit.ly/197YKfc

edit: sorry about that iPhone joke. I get easily ticked off when people buy into stereotypes and rumours. When asked ignorant questions I have an itch to give equally ignorant answers. Which video card should I get AMD or Nvidia? Get Apple of course!

IInuyasha74 · Nov 9, 2013

I would personally avoid 3 fan configurations, but this is for personal reasons.

Scan does seem to have several cheaper though so you should pick one you like the looks of there, or if its in your price range on Scan, go for a R9 290

Xyven · Nov 9, 2013

Unfortunately, my price range is up to ~300pounds

IInuyasha74 · Nov 9, 2013

Thats a shame. You are only $20 away
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/4gb-msi-radeon-r9-290-28nm-5000mhz-gddr5-gpu-947mhz-boost-1000mhz-2560-streams-dport-dvi-hdm

Xyven · Nov 9, 2013

Wow, I might actually go for that, but i really prefer amazon. Is there a big difference between 280x and 290?

IInuyasha74 · Nov 9, 2013

I understand wanting to stick with a seller you are used to, but based on the price difference, the 290 on amazon will probably be closer to 400.

I would personally get it on Scan, or go ahead with a 280x. You will be waiting a long time for amazon to meet that price.

huilun02 · Nov 9, 2013

Nahhh wait for one with a better cooler. The reference card will set your house on fire and wake everyone up within a mile.

IInuyasha74 · Nov 9, 2013

huilun02 :

He would be waiting a long time. The reference cards do get hot, but what high end card doesn't?
It won't set the house of fire, and wake everyone cause you can lock its fan speed at 40% and as Tomshardware showed in its reviews, thats a pretty comfortable volume.

AMD is currently not letting companies sell it with special cooling solutions form other companies, and is expected not to for some time. The reason is because the performance varies greatly dependent on heat conditions. AMD knows Nvidia is going to try to take back performance leadership with the 780 Ti, and they are likely going to wait until its release before allowing special cooling solutions because it doesn't want Nvidia to know how much performance the r9 290x will give.

Yes waiting for a better cooling solution would be better, but you will be waiting for quite some time for it.

Xyven · Nov 9, 2013

Now, choosing between models (lets say price isnt the issue), what should i go for: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 or asus 280x

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