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October 29, 2013 7:11:48 PM

I am about to build my first gaming PC and am unsure about what CPU to buy. I have done a fair amount of research and decided to get either a AMD fx 8350 or a Intel I5. Also since the new consoles use 8 cores will upcoming next gen titles perform better on the fx 8350 due to the fact that it has 8 cores. Also I heard that AMD will be keeping the same socket type longer than Intel, meaning that when upgrading CPUs with Intel a new motherboard is needed, is this true?
This PC is primarily for gaming, currently I think I will be getting a GTX 780 if that helps.
Please keep in mind I am a beginner who does not know everything about PCs, please go easy on me :) 

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October 29, 2013 7:19:42 PM

Either would be fine. You're going to hear from each respected fanbase, but the truth is, the i5 games much better now. There is a chance that the 8350 will outperform the i5 in the future though.

K model i5 > 8350 > non-K model i5
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October 29, 2013 7:39:04 PM

CTurbo said:
Either would be fine. You're going to hear from each respected fanbase, but the truth is, the i5 games much better now. There is a chance that the 8350 will outperform the i5 in the future though.

K model i5 > 8350 > non-K model i5


Thanks for the your response! What model of I5 would you recommend?

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October 30, 2013 6:23:18 AM

Obviously I'm going to say get a 4670K or a 3570K because you can overclock the crap out of them.
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October 30, 2013 7:30:19 AM

If your budget allows for it, a 3570k or 4670k. I wouldn't consider a locked i5, personally. If not in your budget, FX 8320 or 8350.
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October 30, 2013 9:25:02 AM

logainofhades said:
If your budget allows for it, a 3570k or 4670k. I wouldn't consider a locked i5, personally. If not in your budget, FX 8320 or 8350.

I would like to keep the PC at or under 1500. As for overclocking I am not sure how that works or how to do it (I am a beginner). But I would be intrested in doing it to get better performance from the CPU. If I do overclock it does this mean I need liquid cooling?

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October 30, 2013 9:36:55 AM

No you do not NEED liquid cooling for overclocking. You DO need an aftermarket cooler though. There a many really good air coolers that work work just fine.

Also, you don't HAVE to overclock at first. You could run it at stock speeds until you are comfortable enough to overclock later, or until you feel like you need the extra oomph. It's just nice to have the option. Overclocking can keep a processor relevant for a couple more years.
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October 30, 2013 9:50:01 AM

CTurbo said:
No you do not NEED liquid cooling for overclocking. You DO need an aftermarket cooler though. There a many really good air coolers that work work just fine.

Also, you don't HAVE to overclock at first. You could run it at stock speeds until you are comfortable enough to overclock later, or until you feel like you need the extra oomph. It's just nice to have the option. Overclocking can keep a processor relevant for a couple more years.

ok thanks for clearing that up. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need a motherboards that supports overclocking? And what is the diffrence between the I5 3570k and 4670k?

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October 30, 2013 9:50:46 AM

I think it's hard to speculate how new CPU's will perform in future. It's probably best to get what you need for right now rather than worrying about the future, as it's impossible to know which will perform better i.e The new consoles may or may not bring optimisation for 8-core to PC, it's not possible to know for certain. Also, PC upgrades in future will happen, and they will happen when its necessary to upgrade so I don't think you should worry too much about upgrading as these CPUs will be good for a good few years at least.

Essentially it's based on what you'll use the PC for, and your budget. If the PC is primarily for gaming, get one of the i5 k series as many of these wonderful people have suggested. :p  If you're going to be doing things like gaming, video editing, 3d modelling etc. AND you're on a budget, the AMD FX 8320 or FX 8350 are both pretty perfect. They perform well, and would leave you excess $$$ for other improvements like an SSD or a nicer motherboard.

In conclusion, if you're not on a particular budget, then go for the i5 k series for the best experience but at the most cost. If you are on a budget then definitely get one of those AMD's as they are absolute monsters for the price. As a general rule, the intel's will perform better at single threaded games (generally older titles) and the AMD FX 83xx series and intel i5's will perform about the same with newer titles which use multiple cores.
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October 30, 2013 9:54:57 AM

Dboss9 said:
CTurbo said:
No you do not NEED liquid cooling for overclocking. You DO need an aftermarket cooler though. There a many really good air coolers that work work just fine.

Also, you don't HAVE to overclock at first. You could run it at stock speeds until you are comfortable enough to overclock later, or until you feel like you need the extra oomph. It's just nice to have the option. Overclocking can keep a processor relevant for a couple more years.

ok thanks for clearing that up. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need a motherboards that supports overclocking? And what is the diffrence between the I5 3570k and 4670k?



Yes you need a board that supports overclocking. Z77 for 3570k and Z87 for 4670k. 4670k is the latest, obviously, and is about 5-10% faster per clock than a 3570k. They also use different sockets. 3570k setups are often $20-$40 cheaper. FX 8320 with a decent motherboard would be cheaper yet. Which board you get also depends on what features you want, like SLI and/or Crossfire support.
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October 30, 2013 10:43:16 AM

logainofhades said:
Dboss9 said:
CTurbo said:
No you do not NEED liquid cooling for overclocking. You DO need an aftermarket cooler though. There a many really good air coolers that work work just fine.

Also, you don't HAVE to overclock at first. You could run it at stock speeds until you are comfortable enough to overclock later, or until you feel like you need the extra oomph. It's just nice to have the option. Overclocking can keep a processor relevant for a couple more years.

ok thanks for clearing that up. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need a motherboards that supports overclocking? And what is the diffrence between the I5 3570k and 4670k?



Yes you need a board that supports overclocking. Z77 for 3570k and Z87 for 4670k. 4670k is the latest, obviously, and is about 5-10% faster per clock than a 3570k. They also use different sockets. 3570k setups are often $20-$40 cheaper. FX 8320 with a decent motherboard would be cheaper yet. Which board you get also depends on what features you want, like SLI and/or Crossfire support.

Ok thanks, is there a motherboard you would recommend? I would like to have SLI support as I will probably be getting a Nvidia gpu, but if it supports crossfire too that would be great especially if I decide to change my gpu.

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October 30, 2013 10:44:21 AM

JOOK-D said:
I think it's hard to speculate how new CPU's will perform in future. It's probably best to get what you need for right now rather than worrying about the future, as it's impossible to know which will perform better i.e The new consoles may or may not bring optimisation for 8-core to PC, it's not possible to know for certain. Also, PC upgrades in future will happen, and they will happen when its necessary to upgrade so I don't think you should worry too much about upgrading as these CPUs will be good for a good few years at least.

Essentially it's based on what you'll use the PC for, and your budget. If the PC is primarily for gaming, get one of the i5 k series as many of these wonderful people have suggested. :p  If you're going to be doing things like gaming, video editing, 3d modelling etc. AND you're on a budget, the AMD FX 8320 or FX 8350 are both pretty perfect. They perform well, and would leave you excess $$$ for other improvements like an SSD or a nicer motherboard.

In conclusion, if you're not on a particular budget, then go for the i5 k series for the best experience but at the most cost. If you are on a budget then definitely get one of those AMD's as they are absolute monsters for the price. As a general rule, the intel's will perform better at single threaded games (generally older titles) and the AMD FX 83xx series and intel i5's will perform about the same with newer titles which use multiple cores.

That was very informative, Thanks! :D 

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October 30, 2013 11:39:49 AM

Dboss9 said:
logainofhades said:
Dboss9 said:
CTurbo said:
No you do not NEED liquid cooling for overclocking. You DO need an aftermarket cooler though. There a many really good air coolers that work work just fine.

Also, you don't HAVE to overclock at first. You could run it at stock speeds until you are comfortable enough to overclock later, or until you feel like you need the extra oomph. It's just nice to have the option. Overclocking can keep a processor relevant for a couple more years.

ok thanks for clearing that up. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need a motherboards that supports overclocking? And what is the diffrence between the I5 3570k and 4670k?



Yes you need a board that supports overclocking. Z77 for 3570k and Z87 for 4670k. 4670k is the latest, obviously, and is about 5-10% faster per clock than a 3570k. They also use different sockets. 3570k setups are often $20-$40 cheaper. FX 8320 with a decent motherboard would be cheaper yet. Which board you get also depends on what features you want, like SLI and/or Crossfire support.

Ok thanks, is there a motherboard you would recommend? I would like to have SLI support as I will probably be getting a Nvidia gpu, but if it supports crossfire too that would be great especially if I decide to change my gpu.



For a 3570k, z77 extreme4. There is a z87 version as well. Any of these 3 would be good buys. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z87-express-motherb...

For the AMD side of things, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 30, 2013 12:11:18 PM

logainofhades said:
Dboss9 said:
logainofhades said:
Dboss9 said:
CTurbo said:
No you do not NEED liquid cooling for overclocking. You DO need an aftermarket cooler though. There a many really good air coolers that work work just fine.

Also, you don't HAVE to overclock at first. You could run it at stock speeds until you are comfortable enough to overclock later, or until you feel like you need the extra oomph. It's just nice to have the option. Overclocking can keep a processor relevant for a couple more years.

ok thanks for clearing that up. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need a motherboards that supports overclocking? And what is the diffrence between the I5 3570k and 4670k?



Yes you need a board that supports overclocking. Z77 for 3570k and Z87 for 4670k. 4670k is the latest, obviously, and is about 5-10% faster per clock than a 3570k. They also use different sockets. 3570k setups are often $20-$40 cheaper. FX 8320 with a decent motherboard would be cheaper yet. Which board you get also depends on what features you want, like SLI and/or Crossfire support.

Ok thanks, is there a motherboard you would recommend? I would like to have SLI support as I will probably be getting a Nvidia gpu, but if it supports crossfire too that would be great especially if I decide to change my gpu.



For a 3570k, z77 extreme4. There is a z87 version as well. Any of these 3 would be good buys. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z87-express-motherb...

For the AMD side of things, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for the recommendations!
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October 30, 2013 12:13:39 PM

Thank you all for your responses! I think I will get a I5 4670k. :) 
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