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October 30, 2013 5:00:59 AM

First off, new here so hello! Secondly, I have very limited knowledge here and will ask some kinda stupid questions..

Ok, My IT guy helped me build a system in 2009 that I up-graded in 2011. He no longer works for the company so he is not avail to help me out today. My current set up is;

Asus Rampage III MB
2tb SATA hdd
i7-950 @ 3.06 Ghz
12gb DDR3 mem
3 way SLI GTX 260s @ 576 Mhz (896 gddr3 mem)
1000 watt power

I just loaded BF4 last night and cant run it at the level I would like. Note, my system is NOT overclocked. I know enough to put a system together but I seem to fail at over clocking..

Any way I am considering up grading my GPU since they are part of the original build from '09. I am also considering adding a SSD.

Couple questions.

My MB is PCI 2.0 and most new cards are 3.0. I know they are backwards compatible but not sure if I will be loosing any bandwidth with my current MB and processor? Looking at a GTX690

By adding a SSD, would I simply load the OS to the SSD, I assume I don't need to worry about raid if I run an SSD and SATA. Is there any complications to adding a SSD?

Looking at my set up, what would you consider for performance up-grades for gamming?

Thanks in advance guys -

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October 30, 2013 5:09:02 AM

vodka0tter said:
First off, new here so hello! Secondly, I have very limited knowledge here and will ask some kinda stupid questions..

Ok, My IT guy helped me build a system in 2009 that I up-graded in 2011. He no longer works for the company so he is not avail to help me out today. My current set up is;

Asus Rampage III MB
2tb SATA hdd
i7-950 @ 3.06 Ghz
12gb DDR3 mem
3 way SLI GTX 260s @ 576 Mhz (896 gddr3 mem)
1000 watt power

I just loaded BF4 last night and cant run it at the level I would like. Note, my system is NOT overclocked. I know enough to put a system together but I seem to fail at over clocking..

Any way I am considering up grading my GPU since they are part of the original build from '09. I am also considering adding a SSD.

Couple questions.

My MB is PCI 2.0 and most new cards are 3.0. I know they are backwards compatible but not sure if I will be loosing any bandwidth with my current MB and processor? Looking at a GTX690

By adding a SSD, would I simply load the OS to the SSD, I assume I don't need to worry about raid if I run an SSD and SATA. Is there any complications to adding a SSD?

Looking at my set up, what would you consider for performance up-grades for gamming?

Thanks in advance guys -


Would you like to build a new system or upgrade? What is your budget? Ok with amazon.com/.co.uk?
I would not recommend adding a 690 to that, it would be held back by various components
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October 30, 2013 5:17:43 AM

no budget in mind. I would prefer to up-grade if possible as opposed to build a new. Having said that I guess I am not opposed to a new build.

I assume the MB is the limiting factor?
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October 30, 2013 5:19:23 AM

Your IT guy actually knew what he was doing! WOW!
No probs with PCI-E 2.0, it is plenty fast enough for a GTX690-there WILL be a small loss of performance but TBH you'll only notice it by running benchmarks.
I'll make it plain that I'm not a fan of multi card configurations so my advice is skewed, I just feel the downs are greater than the ups.
So from that perspective I'll say your best option will be something around the GTX770/R9 280x class: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-revi... I don't think that at stock clocks the CPU can drive a faster card to its fullest and on a single 1080 display that class of card is enough for all but the most discerning of clientele. ;) 
Pushing the current CPU is a worthwhile pastime, current games are FINALLY taking advantage of Quads and with a little tweaking (and a better cooler) you will easily be able to play even the uber demanding titles out there at high settings with the current rig (plus better GPU), even at stock speed that i7 is still no sloth so I'll strongly advise against a full CPU/MB/RAM upgrade-it's just too much cash for too little gain.
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October 30, 2013 5:34:10 AM

My attempts at pushing the CPU beyond stock were by using the ASUS overclocking routine (a menu that is provided by ASUS) which resulted in the PC locking up at even slightest attempt. I simply don't know enough to do more so = fail (lol) Side bar, I use a Corsair hydro (self contained) unit for CPU cooling, Case is air cooled with tons of air volume moving.

So would consideration towards up grading the CPU be in order along with GPU and SSD? I would really like to keep the MB/RAM etc...
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October 30, 2013 6:06:18 AM

Your IT guy put just about the fastest CPU available into the MB at build time, any upgrade will be minimal and you'll have to look on E-bay or Craiglist to source one, nobody I can find holds new CPUs for that 'board.
It's odd that OCing is a no go, could be a memory issue, if you want, you can look further into the subject. Toms has a few useful articles on overclocking those CPUs in the Overclocking Forum stickies.
Best advice I can think of is to get a upgraded graphics card and see how things pan out, the installed cards lack of VRAM is definitely going to be a restriction in current titles.
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October 30, 2013 6:12:02 AM

Well building a new $1000 system or something might perform better and be more future proof or if you want you can add something like a gtx780 or something in there but i would rather build a whole new system but thats just me
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October 30, 2013 9:05:31 AM

Any thoughts on starting with the ASUS Maximus V EXTREME LGA 1155 Intel Z77 board. Considering at pairing it with a i7-3770K; 3.5 and a GTX Titan.
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October 30, 2013 9:30:00 AM

Unless you're dead set on getting a Titan, I'd hold off until we know more about the 780 Ti, particularly since it's going to be $300 cheaper on release and have comparable performance.
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October 30, 2013 10:12:44 AM

There's no gaming advantage with an i7 the less expensive i5 does just as well, but if you're using software that can take advantage of the i7s Hyperthreding then go for it!
Agree about the Titan, the GTX780 performs much the same for less.
Performance of the GTX780Ti is yet to be seen as is its final pricing.

Still think your best option is to drop in a new card and see how it runs before doing a CPU/MB upgrade, particularly with Christmas so close, if it does speed tings up enough for you then you've saved several hundred dollars, if not, well you were going to upgrade anyway weren't you? ;) 
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October 30, 2013 11:27:32 AM

Yeah - going to pick up a GTX780 and plug her in - see what it brings. Thanks for the advice folks! Appreciate it!
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