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October 30, 2013 8:49:32 AM

Hello! So, this is an old problem for me, almost 6 months, but I just dealt with it. Basically, I went to the guys who made my pc and they ''fixed'' it. But alas, they didn't.

So, when playing demanding games, I can play for some time.. Then, major lag for ~10 seconds, back to 60 fps, again major lag, back to 60 fps - so on and so on.. So I thought it must be overheating!

I got the CPUID HW tool and as soon as the lag started I quickly ALT-F4 the game and print screened. The results are shocking... Even not knowing PCs too well, I KNOW this isn't normal.. -- http://imgur.com/qkDTWBo -- You can check most of my specs there, I also have 8 gb of ram.

I do meet the requirements for the game, I can play medium with 60 fps and high on 50ish.

So, back to the photo! As you can see on my processor (all bios set to optimized defaults, same for amd control center, all latest bios and drivers) two of the temperatures are 150 and 200 degrees!

And also TIMPIN 1 (not sure what that is) is kicking at ~80 on the 1st and 3rd (which I think isn't too bad).

So I think I was right? Was it the overheating? How do I fix this? Please help or contact me on skype : vegners

Thank you all! :) 
October 30, 2013 9:24:11 AM

Okay we got another AMD Temps Chaos.

Okay , i had to also go through the same thing ,
Let me make one thing clear

HW monitor & SPECCY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH AMD PROCESSORS !!!

They show over the top temps , and believe me , i found it out the HARD WAY.

The only programms that show accurate temps are the MoBo Tuning Utility and Core temps or AMD Overdriver.

===> Note that the Mobo Tuning utility show on die temps , and are generally higher than core temps.
===> The core temps are what u havta watch out for , Dont let it go above 65 Degrees celcius. When on idle , temperatures may drop to BELOW 10 degrees celcius . DO NOT WORRY. THATS NORMAL !

Besides , 200 degrees will literaly start a FIRE , and the computer shuts off when the temps reach 80/100 degrees. So thats PROOF for you.
I had found this out the HARD way , by RMA'ing my CPU TWICE :( 

The Lag in BF4 can be attributed to Poor Optimization as i have heard that the optimization ATM is very BAD.
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October 30, 2013 9:29:05 AM

Do you have an aftermarket CPU cooler? FX CPU's can run pretty hot, so if you're convinced that it's a temp problem then you should probably look into getting one. I think the most recommended is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, cheap but effective. Also take into account what Ghostface said.
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October 30, 2013 9:30:10 AM

Ghostface1994 said:
Okay we got another AMD Temps Chaos.

Okay , i had to also go through the same thing ,
Let me make one thing clear

HW monitor & SPECCY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH AMD PROCESSORS !!!

They show over the top temps , and believe me , i found it out the HARD WAY.

The only programms that show accurate temps are the MoBo Tuning Utility and Core temps or AMD Overdriver.

===> Note that the Mobo Tuning utility show on die temps , and are generally higher than core temps.
===> The core temps are what u havta watch out for , Dont let it go above 65 Degrees celcius. When on idle , temperatures may drop to BELOW 10 degrees celcius . DO NOT WORRY. THATS NORMAL !

Besides , 200 degrees will literaly start a FIRE , and the computer shuts off when the temps reach 80/100 degrees. So thats PROOF for you.
I had found this out the HARD way , by RMA'ing my CPU TWICE :( 

The Lag in BF4 can be attributed to Poor Optimization as i have heard that the optimization ATM is very BAD.


But the core IS above 65 degrees! As I found out the TIMPIN 1 is the core, and the 1st and 3rd are above 65 degrees! So do I need to underclock or buy a better cpu fan?
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October 30, 2013 9:32:13 AM

infusedsandwich said:
Ghostface1994 said:
Okay we got another AMD Temps Chaos.

Okay , i had to also go through the same thing ,
Let me make one thing clear

HW monitor & SPECCY ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH AMD PROCESSORS !!!

They show over the top temps , and believe me , i found it out the HARD WAY.

The only programms that show accurate temps are the MoBo Tuning Utility and Core temps or AMD Overdriver.

===> Note that the Mobo Tuning utility show on die temps , and are generally higher than core temps.
===> The core temps are what u havta watch out for , Dont let it go above 65 Degrees celcius. When on idle , temperatures may drop to BELOW 10 degrees celcius . DO NOT WORRY. THATS NORMAL !

Besides , 200 degrees will literaly start a FIRE , and the computer shuts off when the temps reach 80/100 degrees. So thats PROOF for you.
I had found this out the HARD way , by RMA'ing my CPU TWICE :( 

The Lag in BF4 can be attributed to Poor Optimization as i have heard that the optimization ATM is very BAD.


But the core IS above 65 degrees! As I found out the TIMPIN 1 is the core, and the 1st and 3rd are above 65 degrees! So do I need to underclock or buy a better cpu fan?


Can I ask how you know that it IS above? Try using a different temp monitoring program like ghostface suggested and see if it still occurs. :) 
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October 30, 2013 10:10:33 AM

infusedsandwich said:
Alright, I used different programs, and the results are as follows:
before the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#0 --
the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#1 --


That's pretty crazy.

I think you definitely need to get a new cooler and thermal paste as quickly as possible to avoid frying your CPU if this is the case.

A popular CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, effective and cheap. For thermal paste, anything form arctic tends to be good, I just got myself some MX-4.
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October 30, 2013 10:12:24 AM

JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
Alright, I used different programs, and the results are as follows:
before the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#0 --
the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#1 --


That's pretty crazy.

I think you definitely need to get a new cooler and thermal paste as quickly as possible to avoid frying your CPU if this is the case.

A popular CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, effective and cheap. For thermal paste, anything form arctic tends to be good, I just got myself some MX-4.


Thanks for that info, probably gonna do that... Also, before the lag spikes my soun dissapeares and it comes back slowly. Just thought that was worth mentioning.
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October 30, 2013 10:18:26 AM

infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
Alright, I used different programs, and the results are as follows:
before the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#0 --
the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#1 --


That's pretty crazy.

I think you definitely need to get a new cooler and thermal paste as quickly as possible to avoid frying your CPU if this is the case.

A popular CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, effective and cheap. For thermal paste, anything form arctic tends to be good, I just got myself some MX-4.


Thanks for that info, probably gonna do that... Also, before the lag spikes my soun dissapeares and it comes back slowly. Just thought that was worth mentioning.


Your what disappears, sorry? Do you currently have an aftermarket cooler or the stock one? Did you build the rig yourself? It could always be a case of the cooler being attached on to the CPU badly, or then the thermal paste has completely disintegrated, which results in the high temperatures that you see when it's made to work hard.
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October 30, 2013 10:31:39 AM

JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
Alright, I used different programs, and the results are as follows:
before the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#0 --
the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#1 --


That's pretty crazy.

I think you definitely need to get a new cooler and thermal paste as quickly as possible to avoid frying your CPU if this is the case.

A popular CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, effective and cheap. For thermal paste, anything form arctic tends to be good, I just got myself some MX-4.


Thanks for that info, probably gonna do that... Also, before the lag spikes my soun dissapeares and it comes back slowly. Just thought that was worth mentioning.


Your what disappears, sorry? Do you currently have an aftermarket cooler or the stock one? Did you build the rig yourself? It could always be a case of the cooler being attached on to the CPU badly, or then the thermal paste has completely disintegrated, which results in the high temperatures that you see when it's made to work hard.


The sound disappears. The computer company in my city built it - sds.lv - Its a stock cooler ( I do say it looks bad, its a very small, thin, red cooler). Im gonna check the cooling and thermal paste right now and tell you the results..
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October 30, 2013 11:05:04 AM

So I checked the case, the fan is surely in place, but it seems as if the thermal paste is dried up. But, as I squished the heat sink back in, I could feel a bit of the slippery sensation - so I'm not sure.
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October 30, 2013 11:14:51 AM

infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
Alright, I used different programs, and the results are as follows:
before the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#0 --
the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#1 --


That's pretty crazy.

I think you definitely need to get a new cooler and thermal paste as quickly as possible to avoid frying your CPU if this is the case.

A popular CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, effective and cheap. For thermal paste, anything form arctic tends to be good, I just got myself some MX-4.


Thanks for that info, probably gonna do that... Also, before the lag spikes my soun dissapeares and it comes back slowly. Just thought that was worth mentioning.


Your what disappears, sorry? Do you currently have an aftermarket cooler or the stock one? Did you build the rig yourself? It could always be a case of the cooler being attached on to the CPU badly, or then the thermal paste has completely disintegrated, which results in the high temperatures that you see when it's made to work hard.


The sound disappears. The computer company in my city built it - sds.lv - Its a stock cooler ( I do say it looks bad, its a very small, thin, red cooler). Im gonna check the cooling and thermal paste right now and tell you the results..


infusedsandwich said:
So I checked the case, the fan is surely in place, but it seems as if the thermal paste is dried up. But, as I squished the heat sink back in, I could feel a bit of the slippery sensation - so I'm not sure.


It's probably best to be safe and get a new cooler and thermal paste. It seems as though that would be the most likely fix for the high temperatures and consequently lag. Better to be safe than ruin a perfectly good CPU, I'd say. You could always get the thermal paste first, apply it and see if it makes a difference. If it doesn't do enough you could then invest in a new cooler. That reminds me - have you cleaned your system at all? Of dust?
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October 30, 2013 11:21:20 AM

JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
Alright, I used different programs, and the results are as follows:
before the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#0 --
the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#1 --


That's pretty crazy.

I think you definitely need to get a new cooler and thermal paste as quickly as possible to avoid frying your CPU if this is the case.

A popular CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, effective and cheap. For thermal paste, anything form arctic tends to be good, I just got myself some MX-4.


Thanks for that info, probably gonna do that... Also, before the lag spikes my soun dissapeares and it comes back slowly. Just thought that was worth mentioning.


Your what disappears, sorry? Do you currently have an aftermarket cooler or the stock one? Did you build the rig yourself? It could always be a case of the cooler being attached on to the CPU badly, or then the thermal paste has completely disintegrated, which results in the high temperatures that you see when it's made to work hard.


The sound disappears. The computer company in my city built it - sds.lv - Its a stock cooler ( I do say it looks bad, its a very small, thin, red cooler). Im gonna check the cooling and thermal paste right now and tell you the results..


infusedsandwich said:
So I checked the case, the fan is surely in place, but it seems as if the thermal paste is dried up. But, as I squished the heat sink back in, I could feel a bit of the slippery sensation - so I'm not sure.


It's probably best to be safe and get a new cooler and thermal paste. It seems as though that would be the most likely fix for the high temperatures and consequently lag. Better to be safe than ruin a perfectly good CPU, I'd say. You could always get the thermal paste first, apply it and see if it makes a difference. If it doesn't do enough you could then invest in a new cooler. That reminds me - have you cleaned your system at all? Of dust?


Im gonna bring it to the shop and tell them to get me the EVO and add some thermal paste. And yes, I have cleaned the system. Thanks for your support!
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October 30, 2013 2:41:59 PM

infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
JOOK-D said:
infusedsandwich said:
Alright, I used different programs, and the results are as follows:
before the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#0 --
the lag -- http://imgur.com/HDbcKW8&XS5YjkY#1 --


That's pretty crazy.

I think you definitely need to get a new cooler and thermal paste as quickly as possible to avoid frying your CPU if this is the case.

A popular CPU cooler is the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, effective and cheap. For thermal paste, anything form arctic tends to be good, I just got myself some MX-4.


Thanks for that info, probably gonna do that... Also, before the lag spikes my soun dissapeares and it comes back slowly. Just thought that was worth mentioning.


Your what disappears, sorry? Do you currently have an aftermarket cooler or the stock one? Did you build the rig yourself? It could always be a case of the cooler being attached on to the CPU badly, or then the thermal paste has completely disintegrated, which results in the high temperatures that you see when it's made to work hard.


The sound disappears. The computer company in my city built it - sds.lv - Its a stock cooler ( I do say it looks bad, its a very small, thin, red cooler). Im gonna check the cooling and thermal paste right now and tell you the results..


infusedsandwich said:
So I checked the case, the fan is surely in place, but it seems as if the thermal paste is dried up. But, as I squished the heat sink back in, I could feel a bit of the slippery sensation - so I'm not sure.


It's probably best to be safe and get a new cooler and thermal paste. It seems as though that would be the most likely fix for the high temperatures and consequently lag. Better to be safe than ruin a perfectly good CPU, I'd say. You could always get the thermal paste first, apply it and see if it makes a difference. If it doesn't do enough you could then invest in a new cooler. That reminds me - have you cleaned your system at all? Of dust?


Im gonna bring it to the shop and tell them to get me the EVO and add some thermal paste. And yes, I have cleaned the system. Thanks for your support!


No probs man :) 
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