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October 31, 2013 11:24:12 AM

i cant decide between 770 or r9 280x. amd have mantle and im really looking forward at the games that will support this. and im also considering sli (if 770) or cfx (if amd) in the future. which gpu is more of a future proof? will it make a difference if i take 770 4gb over the 2gb or over the r9 280x? planning for multi-monitor gaming.

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October 31, 2013 11:29:13 AM

Frank Esguerra said:
i cant decide between 770 or r9 280x. amd have mantle and im really looking forward at the games that will support this. and im also considering sli (if 770) or cfx (if amd) in the future. which gpu is more of a future proof? will it make a difference if i take 770 4gb over the 2gb or over the r9 280x? planning for multi-monitor gaming.


If I were you I would get the GTX 770, it is more future proof and it has PhsX and CUDA Cores, the stuff AMD GPU's dont have. Also the GTX 770 will achieve better gaming results in SLI than it will with a r9 280x in Crossfire.
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October 31, 2013 11:33:39 AM

will the 770 4gb makes a lot of performance boost than the 770 2gb?
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October 31, 2013 11:36:48 AM

Frank Esguerra said:
will the 770 4gb makes a lot of performance boost than the 770 2gb?


If you are doing a multi-monitor setup the absolutely YES. If you are using just 1 monitor then there will be very little difference. But getting the 4gb one is making it future proof as the next gen games use the extra vRAM for texture settings and whatnot. So if you can afford it go with the GTX 770 4gb.
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October 31, 2013 11:40:48 AM

AndyC53 said:
Frank Esguerra said:
i cant decide between 770 or r9 280x. amd have mantle and im really looking forward at the games that will support this. and im also considering sli (if 770) or cfx (if amd) in the future. which gpu is more of a future proof? will it make a difference if i take 770 4gb over the 2gb or over the r9 280x? planning for multi-monitor gaming.


If I were you I would get the GTX 770, it is more future proof and it has PhsX and CUDA Cores, the stuff AMD GPU's dont have. Also the GTX 770 will achieve better gaming results in SLI than it will with a r9 280x in Crossfire.


How is it more future proof? The 280x is just as fast, if not faster. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r7_260x_r9_...

Hardware Physx is barely used, and Cuda cores are the same as Stream processors from AMD with a different name. lol. Physx is far from being widely accepted as a standard in video games. Some professional programs use cuda cores better than the stream processors though, but he talking about gaming not video editing.

Honestly you should look at a Nvidia GTX 780 or an AMD R9 290/290x if you want your GPU to last for a few years before upgrading again. Spend more money now to have relevant tech longer or spend less and have more frequent upgrades.
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October 31, 2013 11:44:33 AM

sincreator said:
AndyC53 said:
Frank Esguerra said:
i cant decide between 770 or r9 280x. amd have mantle and im really looking forward at the games that will support this. and im also considering sli (if 770) or cfx (if amd) in the future. which gpu is more of a future proof? will it make a difference if i take 770 4gb over the 2gb or over the r9 280x? planning for multi-monitor gaming.


If I were you I would get the GTX 770, it is more future proof and it has PhsX and CUDA Cores, the stuff AMD GPU's dont have. Also the GTX 770 will achieve better gaming results in SLI than it will with a r9 280x in Crossfire.


How is it more future proof? The 280x is just as fast, if not faster. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r7_260x_r9_...

Hardware Physx is barely used, and Cuda cores are the same as Stream processors from AMD with a different name. lol. Physx is far from being widely accepted as a standard in video games. Some professional programs use cuda cores better than the stream processors though, but he talking about gaming not video editing.

Honestly you should look at a Nvidia GTX 780 or an AMD R9 290/290x if you want your GPU to last for a few years before upgrading again. Spend more money now to have relevant tech longer or spend less and have more frequent upgrades.


The GTX 770 is more future proof as it will run better in SLI than the r9 280x in crossfire.
Look at these links: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1856843/gtx770-s...
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1858395/gtx-770-...
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October 31, 2013 11:48:16 AM

I agree with SinCreator. While it offers nice effects in games that use it, few games use PhysX. In the future, this nVidia-only proprietary solution could hopefully be replaced with a more vendor-neutral OpenCL method of doing physics calculations. It is hard to say what Mantle will bring, but IMHO, Mantle could offer the future-resistance you're seeking.
For multi-monitor gaming, I would choose 4GB or even 3GB over 2GB. Otherwise, you'd probably have to reduce or eliminate AA and/or other eye candy sooner rather than later. With only 2GB however, you will not be "suffering" by any stretch.
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October 31, 2013 11:53:07 AM

i'll be mostly gaming.

future proof in the sense of playing games on high or max settings, the need to upgrade after 2 years. i have my very reliable 6870 and im using for like 2 years and playing on 1080p. so far cant complain about it but there are some games that i need to dial down the graphics settings to be around 30 fps.

before its decided that i'd go for r9 280x, but after the nvidia price drop and free games. it makes me consider going for 770.
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October 31, 2013 11:53:24 AM

Onus said:
I agree with SinCreator. While it offers nice effects in games that use it, few games use PhysX. In the future, this nVidia-only proprietary solution could hopefully be replaced with a more vendor-neutral OpenCL method of doing physics calculations. It is hard to say what Mantle will bring, but IMHO, Mantle could offer the future-resistance you're seeking.
For multi-monitor gaming, I would choose 4GB or even 3GB over 2GB. Otherwise, you'd probably have to reduce or eliminate AA and/or other eye candy sooner rather than later. With only 2GB however, you will not be "suffering" by any stretch.



Thank you for backing me up on this. I thought it was about to get ugly in here. :lol: 

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October 31, 2013 11:55:41 AM

Frank Esguerra said:
i'll be mostly gaming.

future proof in the sense of playing games on high or max settings, the need to upgrade after 2 years. i have my very reliable 6870 and im using for like 2 years and playing on 1080p. so far cant complain about it but there are some games that i need to dial down the graphics settings to be around 30 fps.

before its decided that i'd go for r9 280x, but after the nvidia price drop and free games. it makes me consider going for 770.


I also agree that PhsX doesnt help much in gaming but everyone is also saying that SLI with 770's is better than r9 280x's in Crossfire.
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October 31, 2013 12:05:51 PM

Frank Esguerra said:
i'll be mostly gaming.

future proof in the sense of playing games on high or max settings, the need to upgrade after 2 years. i have my very reliable 6870 and im using for like 2 years and playing on 1080p. so far cant complain about it but there are some games that i need to dial down the graphics settings to be around 30 fps.

before its decided that i'd go for r9 280x, but after the nvidia price drop and free games. it makes me consider going for 770.


Well the 280x is really a 7970 rebranded and you can get them a lot cheaper now than the 280x since their price has dropped, and they come with a choice of 3 games out of 9 total I believe. I'll admit that I like the games that Nvidia has currently bundled better though. :) 
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October 31, 2013 12:22:07 PM

AndyC53 said:
Frank Esguerra said:
i'll be mostly gaming.

future proof in the sense of playing games on high or max settings, the need to upgrade after 2 years. i have my very reliable 6870 and im using for like 2 years and playing on 1080p. so far cant complain about it but there are some games that i need to dial down the graphics settings to be around 30 fps.

before its decided that i'd go for r9 280x, but after the nvidia price drop and free games. it makes me consider going for 770.


I also agree that PhsX doesnt help much in gaming but everyone is also saying that SLI with 770's is better than r9 280x's in Crossfire.


Well the 280x is really a 7970ghz edition, and a HD7990 is 2 x 7970(normal not ghz ed.) on one card or crossfire 280x if you prefer to call it that instead. So 2 x 280x will be a bit faster than a stock HD7990.

You do the comparison. 7990 vs SLI 770 in these benchmarks from a highly reputable review site and maybe add another 3-5% for the higher clocks that the 280x's would have: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_r9_290x_cro...

EDIT: I exagerated the clocks a little bit. The difference is only about 50mhz, unless you get an OC model 280x/7970ghz ed.
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