2 year old HDD super slow

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So I recently found out that my HDD that i bought with a new laptop in summer 2011 (pretty much precisely two years ago) is failing.
It's a Toshiba MK5065GSX and had a two year long warranty together with the laptop.

Overnight i suddenly got a message alerting me to back up my data, because an imminent HDD failure was detected. I am trying to do so, currently, but with this speed it could take me days.
The results from HD Tune are.... scary.
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Any idea what i could do, besides wait for the backup and never buy toshiba again? Or what on earth might have caused this?
 

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+1 and might I add that the brand doesn't matter much. If you want increased reliability get an SSD. No moving parts which is what it sounds like is your problem. They're also much faster and consume MUCH less of your batteries. Personally, I prefer Crucial or Samsung. BTW, you should consider yourself lucky you got any warning. We all learn the backup lesson the hard way.
 
Just manufacture defects. you can do 1 of two things. Store it away if you don't have something to back it up to. Its better to slave a failing hard drive than to boot from it and copy files over or 2 just keep copying the file that you can. Can you show us a pic of the health status just to see how far its gone?
 
I agree with all of the previous responders. Try not to take out your frustration on Toshiba for the failing HDD as they didn't manufacturer it. It is an off the shelf component.

Be patient and let it perform it's backup, then just replace the drive and move on. If a drive is failing, you are best to decommission the drive as soon as is practically possible, and stress it as little as possible in the mean-time. Doing a full read of the drive may stress the ailing portions, depending on the defect, so you don't want to interrupt a backup half-way through and then try it again, especially with the uncertainty of when or if the drive is going to conk out altogether. If you deal with computers long enough, you will see this happen from time to time.
 

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The Backup is speeding up a little since the normal personal data save organized all files alphanumerically. The system image creation is faster.






The health tab is completely empty. HDTune somehow fails to read the SMART data, that is readily available in SpeedFan for example.
The reallocated sector count is apparently too high. It would also be quite nice to know what this means. The HDD isn't supposed to reallocate bad sectors to the spare tracks until i do a format as far as i know.
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The Error scan tab shows this.

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I don't dare to run a full scan. If the harddrive actually has a mechanical problem i might use up the last bits of life that's left in it.

Well Toshiba is the company the harddrive comes from. The laptop is from HP. Also i am unwilling to accept that right after the warranty runs out a harddrive that is seemingly not damaged, fails like this, without so much as knowing what the hell went wrong.
I have found a thread on here from 2011 that described methods of how one could speed up the read speed again.
 

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I understand you're being upset about this but I suggest you move on. This could have happened the first day you had the computer. HDDs fail all the time especially in portables. There's nothing you could have done to prevent this except that if you had been doing regular backups you wouldn't have your tit in a wringer right now.
 

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Yes, but if it had happened on the first day i could have sent it back and gotten a new one. But it HAD to fail right after the warranty ran out.

Also please quit telling me to move on. SpeedFan says that the performance of the HDD according to SMART readings should be 98%. The HDTune quick scan couldn't find any bad sectors. Every file is accessible and windows is running, and the issue came suddenly out of the blue.

I want to know what exactly happened, and how i could have avoided this.
 
Ok to answer a few things.

1) If its a toshiba hard drive it was made by them and honestly I don't care for them. If you get a new one stick with Western Digital or get a Samsung or Intel SSD. But everyones hard drives dies after a time. Honestly yesterday was my 4th failed hard drive in the past 2 weeks i have had to replace. over a dozen in the past 4 months.

2) You have reallocated sector counts which explains why it is slow. They are not entirely bad sectors. What happens is when you have a sector on the hard drive that it has issues reading and writing too but there is data there it will try to read the data and Relocated it. Once it does it relocates it to a different part on the hard drive. All drives have a Reallocated Area EVEN SSD's. then it just doesn't use that spot anymore and actually maps that bad or failing sector to the new reallocated sector. The one thing people don't know is a true "Bad Sector" is when it is unable to recover the data from that sector. if it can recover it, it reallocates it, and doesn't use the old one. it just doesn't exist. If it can't get the data after so many ties it then marks it as Bad and will always show up. Now it will NOT show up on a surface scan, It won't fully crap out on you quite yet but that explains why its so slow. Not sure why so many reallocated sector counts make it so slow though.

7FF is 2047 reallocated sectors which is A LOT. If a client of mine gets 1 Bad sector i swap them out with a new hard drive then and there. If they have ohhh...more than 300 reallocated sector counts then i swap them out. After 500 they system start to get slow.

If you want to read more about it go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.

But this happens all the time. It just does. Hard drives are ticking time bombs. They can just die out of the blue. Most people have no idea about this stuff happening. I install Crystal Disk Info on all my clients PC's so that they can I can check up on them.

And honestly there is no way to avoid this. Just keep and eye on your SMART status in the future. Also the Average life of a hard drive is about 4 years. Yes i have clients with hard drive with 24/7 usage and have 8 years on them and no issue. I've had hard drive last less than a month (same thing reallocated sector counts) It just happens.
 

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1)I only noticed it was toshiba after i had already ordered an ext hdd to back up to. Guess what brand...

2) If the sector is not entirely unreadable and destroyed, there are ways to try and get it to work again. Like HDD Regenerator, which does so by repeatedly reading and writing onto the damaged sector without throwing it away and using the spare track instead.
Now HDDRegen can recover data from these sectors, but i already got all my data backed up. (the system image creation failed but wasn't that important anyways)
So the question is whether or not there is a formatting program that simply writes 0s all over the thing repeatedly WITHOUT marking the errored sectors as bad on the first pass.

The thing is that i really don't know how it could happen so fast. I have a hunch that it might have been a past overheating problem, and that the sudden ridiculously slow speed is caused by some internal SMART regulator limiting the I/O speed to avoid further damage to the HDD.
In that case i would like to know whether or not i can turn this off.
 
Assuming you have backed up your data and you now wish to find out what happened to your drive, I would use a bootable version of MHDD to perform a full surface scan of your drive. MHDD will identify those sectors which are "slow", ie those that require several retries before they can be read successfully.

If the surface map shows a checkerboard pattern, then this will point to a weak head.
 

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Attempting this now.

[Update]
It failed spectacularly. MHDD fails to start normally.
Killdisk failed at 0%, no matter what i tried
This should normally mean that the drive is dead, however i simply recreated the drive from the image windows had of it, and now i'm again, posting from this laptop.
 

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A later update.
The "failed" harddrive that i had reformatted, killdisked and subsequently reused continued to work normally until it started to slow down again in march/april 2014, but it worked at an acceptable speed until i replaced it in april 2014.
So much for leaving it and moving on.