MSI GTX 660 + Corsair GS600 600W

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

Hi , can someone help me? I wan't to upgrade my graphics card but my power supply is too weak so i saw in the ARLT computer shop in germany a combination of MSI GTX 660 and Corsair GS660 with 600W but i'm not sure if it's enough cuz the hard drive , processor and other parts take power too, so here is my specs

Processor:
AMD Athlon II -250 X2 3.0 GHz

Motherboard AMD:
Biostar; NF520D3, AM3, nForce520;

RAM:
Transcend; DDR3 4GB 1333MHz;

Graphics card:
eVGA; GeForce GT430 ; 1024MB; DDR3;

Hard disk:
Seagate; 1TB; 16MB L2 Cache ; 7200rpm

DVD Drive:
DVD-RW SATA Dual Layer

Case:
Blueberry; MidiTower; 520W;

So if someone knows if the power is enough to run everything correctly , withouth the GT 430 cuz i want to add the GTX 660

please write an answer , PS: my current power supply is 520W Blueberry PSB520

kelvin08113 · Nov 1, 2013

It's more than enough.

maurelie · Nov 1, 2013

It's enough,but that cpu will bottleneck gtx660. If you have bigger budget, you might as well change the cpu and the motherboard.

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

At the moment i can't buy more than the MSI GTX660 and the Corsair GS600 , is that a big problem? I was in the service where i bought my computer , they said I need to replace the power supply , nothing more :S

maurelie · Nov 1, 2013

You will be able to run games, but you will not get the best performance from the GPU. If you see some benchmarks with the gtx660 for example on BF3, ultra resolution 1080p runs with 35-40 frames, you will get 25-30. Its not a big problem but in the future update your cpu and motherboard for best results and performances

maurelie · Nov 1, 2013

Can you give me that webpage that you are using to buy your parts, so i can see what they are offering? Maybe i can help you pick something better

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

maurelie :

arlt.com

maurelie · Nov 1, 2013

Ich schprache deutch, aber nicht sehr gut, haha, rusty on my german there, 8 years of german thats all i know

. Btw i could'n find your bundle kit and i got something else if you want.
http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/PC-Komponenten/Grafikkarten/AMD-arlt/Gigabyte-Radeon-HD7870-OC.html
http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/PC-Komponenten/Netzteile/500W-Corsair-Builder-Series-CX500.html
total 250 eur

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

I'm not sure if 500W is enough , and the graphics card with 3 fans looks more powerful

maurelie · Nov 1, 2013

it is enough, here is a 600w, its 10 eur more expensive, anyway i think you'll be good with 500, but with that price difference go with the 600w
http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/PC-Komponenten/Netzteile/Corsair-Builder-Series-CX600-V3.html

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

maurelie :

What is the problem with the motherboard?

maurelie · Nov 1, 2013

Its not the motherboard, its the cpu. But if you change to another cpu architecture you must change the motherboard. AMD Athlon II -250 X2 3.0 GHz is AM3 socket , so you must have AM3 motherboard

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

maurelie :

Nope , i will buy another AM3 processor XD

maurelie · Nov 1, 2013

am3 is pretty old socket, you wont be able to find many cpus with that socket

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

maurelie :

wtf old?? I bought this computer in 2011 lolwtf

tiny voices · Nov 1, 2013

Ok look, first of all, that GTX660 could EASILY run on 450w. It only needs ONE 6-[in power connector and pulls a MAX of 108w under FULL load.

Secondly, there isn't really much you can do to get a modern CPU. The AM3 socket is about 5 years old, so yes it is outdated and WILL bottleneck the 660. You bought it on the tail end of its run before they introduced the new FX series CPUs and AM3+ motherboards.

Your best bet is to look for a Phenom 2 x4 955 or something similar. It will not be bottlenecked by a 660 and perform decently in modern games. The MAX TDP of your motherboard is only 95w so MAKE SURE you don't get a 120w CPU. Get a 95w CPU.

http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Quad-Core-Processor-HDX945WFGIBOX/dp/B002FO6VTI/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1383307040&sr=8-13&keywords=phenom+2+x4
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Processor-Edition-Socket/dp/B0056D5AMY/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1383307147&sr=8-27&keywords=phenom+2+x4

These would be MUCH better than your current CPU.

However, It would make more sense to upgrade to a cheap AM3+ motherboard and get something like an fx4300 or fx6300. These would be WAY better than upgrading CPUs on a dead socket.

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

Is the CPU going to bottleneck the GTX 660 so much , that it's going to perform like the GT 430?

tiny voices · Nov 1, 2013

No, not that much. But in alot of games it will make it perform much worse than it should. It isn't really worth it unless you upgrade the CPU soon after.

What games are you looking for better performance in?

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

tiny voices :

GTA 4 , Tomb Raider 2013 , Minecraft

tiny voices · Nov 1, 2013

Well ALL of those games are VERY CPU dependent. Minecraft will not improve AT ALL with the new GPU and neither will GTA. Minecraft is a CPU dependent game. I run it the same with my i5 on integrated graphics and with my 2x gtx560s. Exactly the same. GTA is very similar is being VERY CPU dependent. Tomb Raider is definitely bottle necking on the CPU a substantial amount as well.

For those games you NEED a better CPU.

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

And if I don't have money at the moment and I will upgrade the cpu about 5 months after buying the card , is it going to perform like without bottleneck or is it going to stay slow even after the upgrade?

tiny voices · Nov 1, 2013

After you upgrade the GPU, minecraft and GTA will likely not change performance at all. Tomb Raider will improve a bit. NOT a lot because the new GPU will bottleneck on the CPU. What resolution are you playing at and what settings do you get in Tomb Raider?

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

tiny voices :

I play all my games on 1280x1024 , normal settings in tomb raider

tiny voices · Nov 1, 2013

The GPU will help a bit but it will not get you to max settings or anything simply because of the CPU bottleneck.

Real fast for me, play tomb raider and open task manager and see what the max CPU usage is and let me know.

And7rey · Nov 1, 2013

tiny voices :

lol , where can i see that , in the game doesn't shows and in the task manager too.

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