Suggestions with new budget upgrade

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 1, 2013

Hi,

I will be upgrading my dad's PC to something more capable for gaming. Right now his Q9400 @ 2.66 Ghz is bottlenecking the GTX560Ti a lot.

I am hoping to get a budget upgrade with the FX4300 as the main processor. I have never used any AMD parts, so I don't know what to expect, but it is quite cheap.

Here are some parts I am thinking of:

Can anyone shed some light onto this build? Especially if the motherboard is acceptable or will the FX4300 bottleneck the GTX560Ti or just plain bad. Remember this is a budget build.

Caspr · Nov 1, 2013

First of all the CPU is not good, for that price you could get an i3 which is good for gaming, and why would you need 700W+ PSU? a 600W would be more than enough and it would be cheaper.

CTurbo · Nov 1, 2013

You can get a FX 6300 for that same exact price! The 970 Extreme4 is fine but I recommend opting for a 990FX if possible.

CTurbo · Nov 1, 2013

FX 6300 >>> any i3

JOOK-D · Nov 1, 2013

If you're going with AMD, I would recommend at least an FX 6300, if not an FX 8320 (since you're on a budget).

Does your dad need those parts you're planning to give him? If he does then fine. If he doesn't, you really don't need to upgrade them and the money could be better spent elsewhere, such as upgrading the CPU. If you're looking to overclock at some point I recommend going with a 990 board. Instead of the CM 412 you could get the CM Hyper 212 EVO which is probably the best bang for buck cooler you can find.

The 4300 may still bottleneck your GPU.

logainofhades · Nov 1, 2013

What is budget, and what parts to do you need?

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 1, 2013

logainofhades :

Budget is under 1000 AUD.

I will have to replace basically everything except for the GTX560Ti. His current case is actually too thin for the graphics card and the PCIE cables actually touch the side of the case and makes a lot of heat, plus the case has no fans or ventilation.

To Caspr: I might need the 750W PSU, and I will be giving my dad my 650W PSU as I consider SLI/Crossfire in the future. I want to GTX670 in the future, but single cards aren't price efficient yet.

Also guys, I might give my dad my GTX670 in the future, I have a i5 3570k @ 4.2Ghz right now which doesn't bottleneck the 670, but I will also need to find a CPU which doesn't bottleneck it for my dad in the future.

Thanks.

logainofhades · Nov 1, 2013

FX 6300 is best bang for $$$ on a budget build.

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 1, 2013

logainofhades :

Would it bottleneck a GTX670 if I give my current GTX670 to my dad in the future?

logainofhades · Nov 1, 2013

Platinum_Gamer :

It should work fine. Get an aftermarket cooler when the time comes and bump the multiplier to 19.5 and you have an FX 6350.

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 1, 2013

Any suggestions with a good OCable Motherboard? Not too good with AM3 packages...

JOOK-D · Nov 1, 2013

Platinum_Gamer :

If you're planning to OC go with one of the 990 boards, not the 970. I don't have too much time to help right now but it's a start

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 1, 2013

JOOK-D :

Cheers, it seems that most of them don't support PCIE 3.0.

logainofhades · Nov 4, 2013

You don't need PCI-E 3.0. Performance difference between 2.0 and 3.0 is 0 with current gen single gpu cards. Not even a 7970 or GTX 680 would be bottlenecked by 2.0. Crossfire R9 290x is probably pushing the limits of 2.0 since there is no longer a CF ribbon for those card. That kind of setup seems to be far above and beyond the intentions and budget for this system.

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 4, 2013

That is true, I thought I would be missing out maybe a special feature of PCIE3.0, but I guess not now.

Lets compare the FX6300, if a computer had a GTX670 but an i5 3570k and also a FX6300, would they get virtually the same frames in a game such as BF4 or would there be a big difference between them; the i5 having better performance.

I am asking that because if there isn't bottlenecking between the cards by the CPU, then what will be the drawback?

JOOK-D · Nov 4, 2013

Platinum_Gamer :

The i5 3570k would get better frames due to it having 4 beefy cores and the FX having 6 weaker cores. Since games only tend to use a few of those cores the intels are currently on top. The 3570k is on par (some benches say slightly worse than) with the FX 8350 in well threaded games like BF4, in singleplayer. Once the multiplayer aspect is introduced however, the i5 gets better frames. That's not to say the FX performs badly though, you'll still get smooth gameplay. Neither CPU would bottleneck the GPU but due to the i5's architecture it would perform slightly better.

logainofhades · Nov 4, 2013

A 3570k would still be superior in games, but the FX 6300 still does well enough in BF4. A bit of overclocking would help, but the 3570k would still be better.

http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-benchmarks/

logainofhades · Nov 4, 2013

A 3570k would still be superior in games, but the FX 6300 still does well enough in BF4. A bit of overclocking would help, but the 3570k would still be better.

http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-benchmarks/

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 6, 2013

But for the price, the FX6300 is still very good.

EDIT: Does anyone know when the next generation of AMD/Intel CPUs are coming out?

logainofhades · Nov 6, 2013

Early next year for AMD, but they will be APU's. Nobody knows about FX like CPU's yet. I believe fall of next year for Intel.

Platinum_Gamer · Nov 6, 2013

Thanks for the info!

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