i5 4570 vs 8350 for my needs

ryland134

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I am interested in building a computer around ~$600 that can run CS:GO on 1280 x 960 res (which even my laptop can). While running cs:go I will be livestreaming with OBS and I hope to get atleast 250 fps (which is pretty easily achieveable with low settings).

Which one would be the best for my needs? I do not want to overclock, I want to keep my hardware as healthy as possible and have it for as long as possible.

I am not thinking about future games (I know bf4 will use all 8 cores and such) I want to know what runs CSGO best while streaming.
 
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I wouldn't get the M5A97 R2.0 (I have one) as it's not going to be good for overclocking. *EDIT: I've been informed they're probably the best 970 boards around for overclocking, however you don't want to go crazy with the OC. They also don't support CF / SLI.*
If you're looking to do that in future for the extra performance boost go for one of the 990 boards that will have more features and...
IMO logainofhades is right. Streaming can be done better with more cores , rather than powerful cores. The FX 8320 will be the best choice as the 500MHz difference between 8320 and 8350 is no worth 30 bucks. Here's a build which will go far more ahead of the 1280 x 960 you expect -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.99 @ Mwave)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $587.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-01 12:11 EDT-0400)

If for some reason you can't get discounts and promos , get this -
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.99 @ Mwave)
Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 1GB Video Card ($117.27 @ TigerDirect)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $585.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-01 12:13 EDT-0400)

Same build , except GPU ( 1GB 650TI BE )
 

Aaayron

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That motherboard supports triple channel?
 


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If you weren't streaming I would have suggested the i5 though.
Regardless, they're both going to be able to run it at extremely good FPS anyway. It's more dependent on your graphics card.
 


I have heard , IDK.
OP can try 8GB RAM too.
 

LGA 1366 and 2011 are the only platforms that support triple channel, the 2011 supports quad as well.
The memory controllers are on the CPU's today and they have to support the channels!
 

ryland134

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This is what I have planned right now (there is no good deals on gpus right now, pretty confident though that I will be getting a 7870) I will be purchasing these items on blackfriday / cybermonday to get them even cheaper

Component Selection Base Price Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU

AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor $153.99 $4.99 $158.98 SuperBiiz

Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard $94.99 FREE $94.99 Amazon

GeIL 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory $62.99 FREE $62.99 Newegg

Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk $79.99 FREE $79.99
Video Card

Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card $184.99 -$15.00 FREE $169.99 Newegg


NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $29.99 FREE $29.99 Newegg

Power Supply

EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply $39.99 -$15.00 $24.99 NCIX US

$15.00 mail-in rebate
Base Total: $646.93
Mail-in Rebates: -$30.00
Shipping: $4.99
Total: $621.92
(Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)

I am a student so I get OS for practically free.

Anything else you guys think I should change?
 

ryland134

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sadly I didnt clarify 100% I have OS and monitors and such, All I need is the tower. A 7870 + 8320 can easily fit into the budget.
 


I wouldn't get the M5A97 R2.0 (I have one) as it's not going to be good for overclocking. *EDIT: I've been informed they're probably the best 970 boards around for overclocking, however you don't want to go crazy with the OC. They also don't support CF / SLI.*
If you're looking to do that in future for the extra performance boost go for one of the 990 boards that will have more features and more reliable in general.

If there's almost $100 more to play with you could potentially get a 7950 or 7970.
 
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Here's what I would prefer then ( if no OS , monitor is needed and budget can be extended by a tad bit ) -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 530 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($48.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $627.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-02 02:21 EDT-0400)

Almost the same build , but with a different , more powerful , efficient and reliable PSU. A much more faster and powerful SSD. Different Mobo and chassis. A better performing RAM too.
This is the best I could find for that money , Hope you like it :)
 

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Actually, it supports crossfire, not SLI.