I'm making a switch to intel! (oh boy)..

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First I'd like to say that if this is in the wrong section I do apologize.

Down to the point! My fx-6300 just isn't putting out the horsepower that I need and I decided to make a (cautious) switch to intel, so I came here for help!

Current build:
Amd fx-6300 @ 4.4 GHz (coolermaster hyper 212+ CPU cooler)
Amd Radeon HD 7870 2 GB GHz edition (powercolor's vortex ii cooler style)
Asrock 990fx extreme3 motherboard.
8 GB g.skill ripjaws @1600MHz
Some OCZ 600 watt power supply (the name is at the tip of my tongue, I promise!)
All put comfortably into a coolermaster HAF 922 case.

Word on the street is, okay, let's be real here. Word around every forum for every single game that I play is that intel stomps AMD in many ways.

vvvvvv I need help with the motherboard and CPU cooling method here. vvvvvv

New build idea!:
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
Same GPU
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130726
Same RAM
Same power supply

And down to the final bit, the cooling, I decided to upgrade that as well! I want a pre-built water cooling system and I have the CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i in mind, any other ideas or will this do the trick?




 
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That will be a great combo and in a couple of years when the 770 is not up to par anymore the i7 will still be a top level gaming CPU. I have no doubt of that.
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Intel does outperform AMD in most gaming scenarios. However a cheaper alternative for you would be to upgrade to an 8350. The 8350 is a very good gaming CPU especially when overclocked. The 4670K is better in most cases especially when overclocked but the 8350 would be significant upgrade from your 6300 for cheaper than a platform change.

If the budget is not really an issue then go with the 4670K. The H100i is a very good cooler.
 

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I'm wanting to switch to the i5 for its' performance over any amd processor (or at least, that's what I have heard!). Budget is not an issue at all.

 
If you are really set on Intel upgrade and expense, then all three of your choices are good (though I would go with an ASUS board, but that's me).
But pay attention to Anort13. He's right about the processor. The biggest increase in gaming performance will be with a newer and higher level graphics card.
The 8 core AMD CPU's work just fine for nearly all games, and my wifes 6300 system is wickedfast running one of my GTX660's.
 
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If budget is really not an issue go with the i7 4770K. The extra threads provided by Hyperthreading aren't used in many games yet but there are a few that can take advantage of it. My i7 2600K at 4.5Ghz is still a beast and I bought it in January 2011 when it was released. The 4770K is almost 20% faster clock for clock than my older Sandy Bridge processor. I have no reason to even think about upgrading though. If CPU performance is what you are after the 4770K is about as good as it gets.
 

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Although my method for my final choice of motherboard is a bit odd.. (The colors really matter after all! hehe), I'd like to stick to that motherboard for the upgrade unless I can find a better one with the same color scheme. As for the CPU, my 6300 just feels sluggish in games and in general pc use now, even after the clock speed boost. And it goes without say that it just seems as though intel has more of the fine tuning done with their processors.
 

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Ahhh I was wondering when someone would bring up the i7! I would not mind putting the money down on one at all and I do understand that it is an amazing piece of technology, but along with the question "should I buy one?.." arises another question, "Is that much speed really necessary for what I do?.."

I do basic browsing and gaming (currently guild wars 2, where I need better single thread performance and AMD doesn't cut it right now, and BF 4.)
 
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BF4 and Crysis 3 are the 2 games I can think of off the top of my head that will make use of the extra threads of the i7. Future games will also I'm sure. I usually upgrade graphics cards about twice before I upgrade CPUs. So if budget is not really an issue you might as well future proof as much as possible.
 

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That part of your response does make me think. Is my 7870 a bottleneck? I know that for GW 2 that my processor is too weak for huge areas and big battles, but for games on a smaller scale, would upgrading my GPU be more beneficial?
 
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Different games and even different parts of the same games can be biased toward the CPU or GPU. For instance in BF3 and BF4 multiplayer the CPU is extremely important while the single player campaign is much more heavily GPU biased. Skyrim is a CPU hog where as other games will give you the same performance if you have an i7 4960X extreme edition or an Athlon II X2 240.

A higher end CPU is certainly the place to start as a base for a high end gaming system. The GPU is more important though. Your 7870 is a good upper mid range card. You could improve gaming performance with a better card though even with your 6300.
 

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Thank you so much for all of this information, it really is making me consider a bit more about system upgrades. I'll most likely get that i5-4670k unless I get power hungry and buy that i7! ;D. Might as well ask here, what would be a good step up from the 7870? (I'm willing to change to nvidia if needed.)
 
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Honestly that depends on your budget more than anything. I am going to upgrade in the next week or two and I'm going with the GTX 780. It will max any game at 1920 x 1080 and although it's a little slower than the new AMD R9 290X it runs cooler and uses less power. And after the recent price cuts I'm happy paying $500 for one. I was actually going to get one for $650 before the prices dropped but I put it off because of the new AMD cards. Glad I waited!

At 1920 x 1980 the GTX 770 / R9 280/HD 7970 ( the 280 is a rebranded 7970 ) level cards will let you play pretty much anything on high to very high.

Your existing power supply is sufficient for any of the cards listed above except maybe the R9 290X. That one needs a 650w recommended minimum.
 

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Thanks again for this information, you really know your stuff! I might go for the i7 and gtx 770..
 
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That will be a great combo and in a couple of years when the 770 is not up to par anymore the i7 will still be a top level gaming CPU. I have no doubt of that.
 
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I can not thank you enough for the knowledge and help you gave me. Have a good rest of your day/night.