My Budget Gaming Rig - Can Someone Give Me Some Tips?

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So after doing a lot of research and asking a lot of questions about what would be a perfect budget gaming setup, I put together this build:

CPU: Athlon X4 750k - €66.90
MB: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 - €49.90
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Blue 1x 4GB 1600 mhz - €45.99
GPU: AMD Radeon 7850 - €+- 100/150,- (depending on 1/2GB).
HDD: Western Digital Blue 500GB - €47.90
Case: Cooler Master Elite 310 - Midtower Model - €27.90
PSU: Corsair builder series CX 430 (430w) - €41.90 (PSU's in my country are more expensive in Euro's than the same PSU in dollars in the USA...)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB - €17.99

Why did I go for AMD? I think they have a better price/performance ratio when it comes to budget parts.

So here are my questions:

~ I'm not planning on going CF or upgrading the CPU, but will I be able to OC the 750k and the 7850 with this build? It's not that hard and could give me some extra performance.

~ Just to be sure, will this run BF4? I'm used to low graphical settings, because I've always had consoles untill now (the ones I've had were 720p or below). Can I run/ record it on for example medium settings without lagg?

~ Is my GPU choice right? I could also go for the 7770, but I know the 7850 is way better for about 20 to 50 euro's more.

~ 1 or 2 GB for the GPU? I have only found 1 video about this, which was quite vague. It said something like: "go for 2 GB if you want resolutions higher than 1080p / go dual monitor". I'm only planning on using 1 monitor at 1080p (games like BF4 maybe on 720p). I'm not really aware on how much 2GB will increase my performance... (it's 50 euro's more expensive though).

~ Can I get cheaper parts with an equal / better performance ratio? This is my budget basically, and I know that the fx 6300 is way better than the 750k, but this is my budget and I'm not really planning on going any higher. Are there parts on which I can cheap out to for example up the CPU or any other part in this build?

~ I'm pretty sure it won't but I'm just going to ask to be on the safe side :p. Will my CPU bottleneck the 7850?

~ Should I wait for the Radeon 9000 series to be released? I'm sure the 9000 series will be better than the 7000 series, also making the 7000 series a lot cheaper, but I've got no clue about when they are going to be released (I'm planning to building this PC at the end of 2013- beginning of 2014).

Well, this are all of my questions about the parts I'm unsure about. I'd really appreciate if you could help me out! You don't have to answer all the of the questions :p, you would already make me happy answering the ones you know!

Extra: I'm planning on upgrading the ram to 8Gb 1600 mhz (another 4GB vengeance blue stick) later on (about a month/ 2 months).
 
Looks like a good choice.
There is not so much benefit over better netter video card. Because cpu is not so fast that faster video cards kind needs to work best way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIT9uLDjZcg

Now remember that BF 4 is one games really need cpu power just like crysis.
But look here too.
http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-benchmarks/

More memory is good to have soon as possible.

This is better cpu cooler / $ than CM 212 EVO.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Raijintek/Aidos/

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Motherboard is very easy for overclocking, it has user friendly bios, but it supports dual channel memory , so you must put 2 slots of ram for best performance. If you are overclocking you also must have aftermarket cooler, something like CM hyper 212 and more powerful PSU , so the PSU can handle the wattage.7850 is good card and 2 gb is all you need with today's games. And i think your CPU will not bottleneck your GPU. Btw tell me your budget and i'll pick some parts for you.
 

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It's funny that a lot of people use videos from Austin as examples :p. The build I made is also based on one of his videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f6INgYBmGo

I did not have a CPU cooler yet, is it possible to add that later (and therefore OC a bit later) just like my extra 4GB ram?
And I know a GPU is the most important part, but I didn't want a CPU that would bottleneck the 7850 :p.
 

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Will this PSU be enough for the overclocking of the CPU and GPU? I took 430 because I'm not going CF, but I thought it would be enough for OC (otherwise I would have gone for 400w).
Will the GPU also need extra cooling for OC? I didn't think so, but I don't want it to overheat :$.

My budget is about 450 dollars. Actually it's about 390-420 euro's, but after seeing a lot of videos, I found out that 450 dollars worth of parts in the USA equals about 390-420 euro's where I live.

In the video Austin made, he showed that the 750k + 7770 could run Crysis 3, medium settings without lag. Therefore I thought the CPU would be powerfull enough for Crysis 3 and BF4.

 

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I did just look up the 212 Evo, it costs 30 euro's where I live :eek: - half the price of the CPU itself :l. Is there a possible cheaper alternative? For an i5 3570k I'd say use it, but isn't it a bit too much for a 60-65 euro 750k?
 


Where do u buy?
Maybe not cheaper but better ye.
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Thermalright-HR-02-Macho-120-Tower-Kuehler_808612.html

This is as good as the CN 212 EVO.
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/Thermalright-True-Spirit-120-M-BW-Tower-Kuehler_826472.html

This pu is enough for OC cpu + video card.
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-Super-Flower-Golden-Green-PRO-Non-Modular-80--Gold_688894.html

It is enough for one GTX 780
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/550-Watt-Super-Flower-Golden-Green-PRO-Non-Modular-80--Gold_688894.html

 

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How about the one I have? Shoudn't 430w be enough for a CPU and 1 GPU OCed (its 80+ bronze)? I don't really know how much extra watt the overclocked components will use extra :l. I'd like to try to get the 7850 OCed to something near a 7870 :p. The CPU, well, idk.

Edit: 650w 80+ bronze OCZ PSU: http://r.twenga.nl/g3.php?pg=RDs4NTAzMTY2MjM3NjgxODkwOTc3OzMxNzc4ODE7aHR0cDovL3d3dy5zaWNvbXB1dGVycy5ubC9jb21wb25lbnRlbi92b2VkaW5nZW4vb2N6L29jei16cy02NTB3YXR0Lmh0bWw7ZmFlYjU3YjRmNTg2MTY3Y2MzNGZkMjNjMGNiMDk4ZjQ%3D&dac=1 (It's a Dutch site - sorry)
 


This I know for sure. 450w super flower golden green is enough.
But that can output more than it is labeled for.

Corsair cheaper psus are not so good. So if you want better reliability. Then Super flower is good choice. 5 year warranty and so on.

Only 1% RMA quote here. 880 sold units!
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/450-Watt-Super-Flower-Golden-Green-PRO-Non-Modular-80--Gold_688893.html

 

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I can't get that one in my country :l. Why 80+ gold actually? Isn't a 500w 80+ bronze fine as well? Or even a 430w 80+ bronze (the one I have now)?

Edit: I did find this one - 500w 80 plus gold: http://azerty.nl/8-1073-569659/lc-power-gold-series-lc9550-v2.html . I'd say its a bit cheap and I don't know the brand. Does this mean it isn't reliable despite the 80+ gold certificate?
 


Im from Finland and I order my parts from mindfactory, HWverand,caseking,Alternate..

HW versand ships parts to 20 country.
http://www.hardwareversand.de

http://www.hardwareversand.de/400+-+500+Watts/41092/Super-Flower+SF450P14XE+Golden+Green+Pro+80plus+gold.article

Sure if want to save then XFX is good choice. It is not so good as the super flower but it is better than corsair.
 

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This quotes are getting a bit long, so I'll start a new line here :p.
EVGA is a well known brand, I searched for it and found this one: http://nl.hardware.info/productinfo/196844/evga-bronze-500w#tab:specificaties - its 80+ bronze, costs 50 euro's and is from a reliable brand. I can't really exceed 50 euro's for the PSU because it would up my budget quite a bit with all the extra upgrades :$ (also a 30 euro aftermarket CPU cooler). Do you agree with me that this one is suitable for the overclocking? Or is there a specific feature a PSU needs for overclocking?
 

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Thanks for helping me out with the PSU! I think I'm going with the EVGA because I can't order the other one in The Netherlands (all my parts come from 1/2 sites).

I've still got quite some open questions, has someone maybe got an answer for them?


 


If you look this.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/battlefield-4-graphics-card-performance,review-32798-4.html

It looks like you need better video card.
7870 or maybe better buy is 7950


 

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Hmm, I'm definately OCing the 7850, that should give me about the same performance as a 7870 (bit less). I'm fine with 720p and medium settings :p. I'm probably not even going to buy the game on PC, it's just that this one is very demanding and I'd like to see it as a standard.