Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question
Solved

Hoping for some final advise before purchase - $1000 gaming

Tags:
  • Gaming
  • Systems
Last response: in Systems
Share
November 2, 2013 4:32:49 AM

Here's what I want to go with. Please let me know if anything sticks out or doesn't mesh well together.

Also, I want to build now, but I'm worried there might be a whole bunch of sales near black Friday. Should I wait?

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1WhKP
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1WhKP/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1WhKP/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4570 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $1087.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-02 07:32 EDT-0400)

More about : hoping final advise purchase 1000 gaming

Best solution

a b 4 Gaming
November 2, 2013 5:34:17 AM

First.....you have a non "K" series cpu, meaning you won't be able to overclock it. Therefore, looking at your build, there is no need for you to spend the extra money on a Z87 motherboard. The Z87 series is for overclocking so you could probably save a few dollars and get a H87 or other series that will meet your needs (although there may be some features avaliable on the Z series to justify your choosing a Z87 motherboard). Read this article:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z87-H87-H81-Q...

OR
you can spend a little more and get a "K" series cpu such as the i5 4670K to take full advantage of your Z87 motherboard.

If you decide to keep the i5 4570 then an aftermarket cpu cooler is not necessary as you won't be oc'ing. However, if you decide to upgrade to a i5 4670K, then keep the CM 212, it's a good one for the price.

Second, I would advise you to upgrade the SSD from a Samsung 840 EVO to a Samsung 840 PRO, should be a minor increase in price, but a better SSD.

Third, a GTX770 only requires about a 600W PSU, so you may be able to get somethig slightly smaller if you stay with the i5 4570. But if you are going to go with a i5 4670K and overclock, then keep it, unless you plan to SLI in the future, in which case you wuld need about an 850W PSU.

Also, since you will be getting the motherboard from Micro Center, they have excellent cpu/mobo combos that can drop the cost by $30 or more.

Finally, don't forget you will need an OS (win7 or win8) for your build.
Share
November 2, 2013 6:04:52 AM

animal said:
First.....you have a non "K" series cpu, meaning you won't be able to overclock it. Therefore, looking at your build, there is no need for you to spend the extra money on a Z87 motherboard. The Z87 series is for overclocking so you could probably save a few dollars and get a H87 or other series that will meet your needs (although there may be some features avaliable on the Z series to justify your choosing a Z87 motherboard). Read this article:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z87-H87-H81-Q...

OR
you can spend a little more and get a "K" series cpu such as the i5 4670K to take full advantage of your Z87 motherboard.

If you decide to keep the i5 4570 then an aftermarket cpu cooler is not necessary as you won't be oc'ing. However, if you decide to upgrade to a i5 4670K, then keep the CM 212, it's a good one for the price.

Second, I would advise you to upgrade the SSD from a Samsung 840 EVO to a Samsung 840 PRO, should be a minor increase in price, but a better SSD.

Third, a GTX770 only requires about a 600W PSU, so you may be able to get somethig slightly smaller if you stay with the i5 4570. But if you are going to go with a i5 4670K and overclock, then keep it, unless you plan to SLI in the future, in which case you wuld need about an 850W PSU.

Also, since you will be getting the motherboard from Micro Center, they have excellent cpu/mobo combos that can drop the cost by $30 or more.

Finally, don't forget you will need an OS (win7 or win8) for your build.


Adding on to what the previous reply stated,

I agree that if you are not planning to overclock, there is no need to get a Z series board. My opinion would be to change your CPU to a i5 3570k, or if you are set on the i5 4570, get a motherboard that is less expensive. As for your GPU, it looks solid. I suggest getting a disk drive, they come in handy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....
I assume that this build is for gaming? If so, everything looks good.

As for waiting, you probably won't save too much money on sales, maybe $50-$100 max, and that is only if the parts you want go on sale. I suggest buying all the parts from newegg, in result of fast shipping and great customer support (as long as they are not too much more expensive). I just built my first desktop a two days ago, so I understand your anxiousness.
After considering changing your CPU, I would say go for it.
m
0
l
Related resources
a b 4 Gaming
November 2, 2013 6:05:04 AM

If you are ready to build now, do it now.
Your parts are good.
I have a few comments:

1. If you live near a microcenter, they will sell you a i5-4670K for $200.
Since the i504570 is a non "K" version, you can't overclock. In that case, use a much cheaper B85 based motherboard.

2. And... consider a cheaper M-ATX sized motherboard.

3. A GTX770 needs only a 575w psu. I might prefer a Seasonic unit of 600w or so. Perhaps something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
At this time of the year, Seasonic has had some good sales. Keep an eye out. Sign up for the newegg email bargain letter.
m
0
l
November 2, 2013 6:10:18 AM

Thanks for all the advice.

I've never really overclocked before, but I also hate to leave anything on the table by not getting the options. Ultimately I'm at the top of my budget already though so I'll probably reduce the motherboard and spend the money on the PRO SSD.

Planning on getting everything through Newegg, price doesn't change much.
m
0
l
November 2, 2013 6:13:22 AM

geofelt said:
If you are ready to build now, do it now.
Your parts are good.
I have a few comments:

1. If you live near a microcenter, they will sell you a i5-4670K for $200.
Since the i504570 is a non "K" version, you can't overclock. In that case, use a much cheaper B85 based motherboard.

2. And... consider a cheaper M-ATX sized motherboard.

3. A GTX770 needs only a 575w psu. I might prefer a Seasonic unit of 600w or so. Perhaps something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
At this time of the year, Seasonic has had some good sales. Keep an eye out. Sign up for the newegg email bargain letter.



Including the $20 mail-in rebate, the evga 750W is only $60, while the seasonic you referenced is $65. Is there any reason not to get more power for less money?
m
0
l
November 2, 2013 6:16:36 AM

chris886 said:
geofelt said:
If you are ready to build now, do it now.
Your parts are good.
I have a few comments:

1. If you live near a microcenter, they will sell you a i5-4670K for $200.
Since the i504570 is a non "K" version, you can't overclock. In that case, use a much cheaper B85 based motherboard.

2. And... consider a cheaper M-ATX sized motherboard.

3. A GTX770 needs only a 575w psu. I might prefer a Seasonic unit of 600w or so. Perhaps something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
At this time of the year, Seasonic has had some good sales. Keep an eye out. Sign up for the newegg email bargain letter.



Including the $20 mail-in rebate, the evga 750W is only $60, while the seasonic you referenced is $65. Is there any reason not to get more power for less money?


I would say to stick with your set-up as is if you are at the top of your budget, just get a less expensive motherboard, since you would not need the Z series chipset.
m
0
l
a b 4 Gaming
November 2, 2013 6:22:46 AM

Because you don't need more power with your build. Also, while I have nothing against EVGA, Seasonic is one of the best (if not the best) PSU manufacturer out there. But what you get is YOUR decision, you asked for advice, we gave our advice, but it is your money you will be spending!

Also, if youare not going to oc, there is no need to get the CM 212 EVO cpu cooler, that will save you a few dollars as well. Spend the saved money on the better SS and a ODD.

And PLEASE do not forget to choose a Best Answer for whomever you feel assisted you most.
m
0
l
November 2, 2013 6:46:31 AM

Ughh.. My impulses got the best of me. If i'm going to make this build last another 4 years, I didn't want to regret not getting better core parts. So this is what I ended up ordering. I should get $60 or so back in rebates.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Wj1j
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Wj1j/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Wj1j/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($96.66 @ Newegg)
Total: $1179.34
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-02 09:44 EDT-0400)

m
0
l
a b 4 Gaming
November 2, 2013 6:49:40 AM

Don't forget that you will need to install an OS.....how will you do that without a disc drive?

And thank you for the Best Answer.

BTW, since you upgraded your cpu, the motherboard probably comes with overclocking software that will allow you to do pre-set overclocks, it should be a simple choose and click operation......read the motherboard manual/documentation when you get it. Everything should be fine since you have the CM 212 and a larger PSU than necessary for normal (stock seped) operation. Great build and best of luck to you!
m
0
l
November 2, 2013 6:58:59 AM

I have an extra optical drive already from my current build. I also have an OS on hand.

Thanks for the detailed advice.

That's good to hear that there is stock OC software. Hopefully it will make it less stressful and problem free.
m
0
l
!