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I have a Gigabyte Motherboard GA-EX58-UD5 with sata 2 ports and an i7 920 processor- socket lga 1366 I would like to get a new motherboard with sata3 as I have just bought an ssd which I am told will work better with sata3, I would like to use the same processor, which motherboard would you recommend
 
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LGA1366 motherboards don't normally come with sata3 ports. There's this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-motherboard-270wsw555a2 but it's an HPTX server board that won't fit in most consumer-level cases (if you've already got a Corsair 900D or something, it might). SSDs work pretty well even with sata2, I think there was an article here at TH about that a year or two ago, but I couldn't immediately find it. If you really want sata3 without changing your processor, you could get a controller card, such as this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124045
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LGA1366 motherboards don't normally come with sata3 ports. There's this one: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-motherboard-270wsw555a2 but it's an HPTX server board that won't fit in most consumer-level cases (if you've already got a Corsair 900D or something, it might). SSDs work pretty well even with sata2, I think there was an article here at TH about that a year or two ago, but I couldn't immediately find it. If you really want sata3 without changing your processor, you could get a controller card, such as this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124045
 
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A SSD will be wonderful.
Fortunately, it does not depend on 6gb sata 3 for most things.
Only sequential access of large blocks will be impacted. Even at that, it will be 2x faster than your hard drive.
In small random I/o, which the os does mostly, there will be no impact from being connected to sata 2.

I suggest you just install and enjoy.

If, by chance you want to use the ssd as a data drive, look at buying a pcie add in sata 3 card. You just can't use it as a boot os drive.

Once you get into replacing the motherboard, you might as well consider replacing the cpu to a more modern version also.
 
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You would hope so. But, I am skeptical. Some older motherboards included some 6gb sata ports via a separate marvell chip. It worked, but the performance was not as good as that provided by the integrated controllers of the newer cpu chipsets.

And... the best use of a ssd is for the os. If you use an add in card to get the connectivity, you will not be able to boot from it.

Really, you will be very pleased with a ssd on sata 2. If you have the funds for a new motherboard, use it instead to get the next size up ssd. Larger ssd's perform a bit better in sequential operations because they have more nand chips that can be accessed in parallel.
 
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Thank you, I have the SSD installed Samsung Evo 840 250gb but it takes near 2 minutes to boot which is about the same as the HDD it replaced I thought it would boot faster and that it may be the sata2 that is the problem
 
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An SSD via sata2 sped up boot times for me, so I doubt that's the problem, but there are some questions you can answer that might help us figure out why it didn't improve boot times for you:
1. How much of that 2 minutes is in BIOS screens, as opposed to Windows loading? An SSD won't affect the former.
2. Which version of Windows are you using, and what method did you use for transferring it to the SSD? A fresh install is probably better than restoring it from a backup that was made with the HDD.
3. Have you run the Windows performance assessment? That will usually detect an SSD and apply some hidden optimizations for it, like enabling TRIM and disabling automatic defrag.
4. How many programs do you have set to run upon startup, and are you waiting for them before considering the bootup finished? (I realize hidden services would be hard to count, but you can probably count the ones that have visible indications that they're finished loading, such as system tray icons)
 
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If you did not do a clean install, your alignment might be wrong.
Run the ATTO ssd benchmark.
You should see in green a OK message.

With sata 2, your sequential read and write numbers might be in the 200 mb/s range.
But, the access times should be good, in the 0.100 range

For high boot times, look into the bios options.
Are you initializing any hardware you are not using?
Is your dvd the first boot device? How long must the bios wait before it determines that not to use the dvd? Set the dvd lower for normal operations.
Is the bios checking ram every time?
Are the ram settings good, possibly the motherboard is trying to find better settings every time.
 
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Hi,thank you for your help, I was timing all the boot time from start, but from the Windows is starting screen it only takes 40 seconds to get to desktop which is good, I have disabled all programs from loading at start up for now, I am running Windows 7 64 bit and I did a clean install but I could only install in IDE I could not install in AHCI so I had to alter the registry and then set AHCI in the BIOS, all seems to be working fine, I did run the Windows experience index which gives a score for the hard drive of 7.7 so that is pretty good , perhaps I was expecting too much
 
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