bottle neck with r9 270x ?!

Spike UrAss · Nov 2, 2013

i donno where to put this post so sorry for that

a friend asked me if he gonna buy r9 270x and install it with this parts
intel i3 2120 3.30 GHZ
and 8GB ram

he want to play bf4 in ultra setting so can he !!?
and is there gonna be any bottle neck with this rig !?

Pinhedd · Nov 2, 2013

BF4 will bring an i3 to its knees.

subhadeep082012-1331288 · Nov 2, 2013

Spike UrAss :

Yes there can be bottlenecking as battlefield 4 is a cpu intensive game but still your sandy bridge processor is just enough to handle the game.Also you have a nice Gpu.Enjoy Gaming!

Spike UrAss · Nov 2, 2013

i have 280x woth 4670k but it's my friend rig i'm asking about i guess he was playing bf4 but not in ultra so he wanna know if he gonna buy 270x gonna be ok and give it full power or ultra on bf4 or a bad bottle neck

batmanbob · Nov 4, 2013

BF4 will destroy an I3 but the card will rock BF4 Im running the XFX R9 270x and im scoring 65 FPS (lowest recorded so far) online

solomonshv · Nov 4, 2013

batmanbob :

what the hell are you smoking? that i3 is faster in gaming than your CPU.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=102
also note the above benchmarks feature an i3 2100. the OP has a 2120 which is even faster.

to OP. your CPU is fine. go frag some scrubs.

batmanbob · Nov 4, 2013

solomonshv :

Yeah he will be able to run it no problem but when push comes to shove 4 cores at a higher clock speed will no doubt beat a dual core hyper threaded... not to mention the benchmark clearly puts the AMD ahead of the Intel

huilun02 · Nov 4, 2013

Yes I'm afraid your i3 is going to be a bottleneck in Battlefield 4. Disregard all those benchmarks, they don't reflect actual performance in BF4.

Consider upgrading to an i5-3570

solomonshv · Nov 4, 2013

what benchmarks are you talking about? the benchmarks i linked shows the intel cpu either matching or killing YOUR cpu
in games and it manages to do this with using half the power.

and like i said, the OP has a 2120, not a 2100. which is even faster.

it appears your cpu is only good for zipping files with.

and the 270x doesn't exactly deliver ground breaking performance. if anything it's the GPU that will be the bottle neck.

Spike UrAss · Nov 4, 2013

hmmm so what should i tell him then :v

solomonshv · Nov 4, 2013

well ladies, check out these benchmarks:

http--www.gamegpu.ru-images-stories-Test_GPU-Action-Battlefield_4-test-bf4_proz_2.jpg

the i3 2100 on there doing just fine. average frame rate almost on par with the Phenom X4 955 BE. the 2120 will be even closer in performance.and batmanbob says he plays just fine with his phenom. and so will the OP.

and these benchmarks are running on an Asus Ares card. if you are running a 270x you will see an even smaller difference, or probably not any at all.

full benchmarks here: http://www.bf4blog.com/battlefield-4-retail-gpu-cpu-benchmarks/

still going to argue?

solomonshv · Nov 4, 2013

tell him to not burn anymore money. he will be just fine.

potpolima · Nov 4, 2013

Pinhedd :

i disagree, i3 destroys quad core amd cheap shit out there...you don't need expensive system to play games..i hate person like you who encourages people to waste their money

solomonshv · Nov 4, 2013

potpolima :

THANK YOU!!! i'm glad there is at least one other sane person on here. i don't know many more benchmarks i have to show these people to prove that they are wrong.

huilun02 · Nov 4, 2013

That very chart already shows a bottleneck occurring with the i3-2100... It's only at 61 average because of the ARES trying to compensate for the CPU's shortcomings. I don't think the OP has an ARES to cover his ass...

A CPU bottleneck would cease to occur only when changing to a better CPU results in hardly any improvements at all.

potpolima · Nov 4, 2013

huilun02 :

he's not buying an expensive ares 2 so why would he need a powerful cpu?? where's your logic man?? i3 2100 is enough up to gtx 660/r9 270x

solomonshv · Nov 4, 2013

huilun02 :

wow! you are the graphic card expert and you don't know how to read a chart! congrats! the red lines are maximums and mean nothing. the grey lines are average. a 6th grader could have told you that.

the averages are 39 vs 44. and OP has a 2120 which is significantly faster and would probably yield an extra FPS or two.

now let me teach you how the rest works. the CPU processes the code written in the game then feeds instructions down to the GPU. the GPU can NOT read instructions from a program running without the help of the CPU.

what is happening in this situation is that neither the i3 nor the phenom X4 can feed instructions fast enough to the Ares II. the OP will NOT have this problem because his GPU barely handle the workload passed down from either of the CPUs in question. the ares II is essentially a pair of 270x on one card.

and for future reference, the GPU cannot do the job of the CPU in this particular situation. so i don't know where you are coming from with this "compensate" BS. in order for that to happen the game would have to have been written in openCL or something along those lines. which is not the case.

and lastly, the OP has just one 270x, so he will not be using settings this high. with the settings he will be using, the i3 2120 will yield north of 50 FPS which is more than enough to play this game. if he spends 300+ on upgrading the CPU and mobo just to squeeze an extra 2 or 3 FPS, do you think he will see a difference? NO! so stop misleading people to make them spend money they don't need to spend.

huilun02 · Nov 4, 2013

The grey lines are the minimum framerates, look at the legend at the bottom of the chart. His friend wants to play on the Ultra setting, read the first post.

And Guru3D benchmarked the release of BF4 with the latest drivers.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/battlefield_4_vga_graphics_performance_benchmark,7.html

The stock 270X achieved average 53fps at 1920x1200 Ultra, and can definitely hit 60 in 1080p with a moderate overclock. It would be kind of sad not being able to get the most out his card due to the CPU.

solomonshv · Nov 4, 2013

like i said, his cpu is faster than the one in the benchmark i posted.

how much faster? about 10% faster actually:
i3 2100: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-2100+%40+3.10GHz
i3 2120: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i3-2120+%40+3.30GHz

40+ FPS is definitely playable. you want him to spend another $300 for a difference he wont see?

huilun02 · Nov 4, 2013

It is unfortunate in his situation. But I'm not going to insist on getting a new CPU, it's his friend who is spending anyway. I'll leave it to him to decide. Wish him all the best

Spike UrAss · Nov 4, 2013

thanks for all of u guys
i will tell him to get the 270x and try it out and if any bottle neck happened then he will save some money to get better cpu i guess there will be no problem with this !

R3AP3R · Feb 10, 2014

batmanbob :

solomonshv :

Yeah he will be able to run it no problem but when push comes to shove 4 cores at a higher clock speed will no doubt beat a dual core hyper threaded... not to mention the benchmark clearly puts the AMD ahead of the Intel

I'm running and amd fx-8350 over clocked at 4.4 ghz, and an asus r9 27th, I play battlefield 4 on ultra with no lags or anything

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