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November 3, 2013 8:11:31 PM

this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1X8sL
or this buildhttp://pcpartpicker.com/user/hujo98/saved/2Fin
i already have a case and a HDD so dont mention that but how would this perform and which one should i go with

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November 3, 2013 8:17:04 PM

The first build has some problems:

That motherboard is no good for overclocking. The VRMs have no heatsinks and the board overheats.
The CPU cooler will be loud and not cool any better than an air cooler. I ALWAYS prefer air coolers to closed loop liquid coolers.
Get win8. It is simply better.
750w is overkill. 650w will be plenty.

Second build:

Same thing with the CPU cooler.
The Cx line form Corsair isn't the best .The XFX650 would be MUCH better.
Win8 as well



Both build will perform the same in most games. The GPUs are the same and this does 85% of the work in games. It all whether your prefer AMD or intel from there.
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November 3, 2013 8:42:52 PM

but what if i wanted to crossfire 2 R9 280xs in the future wouldn't it be better to go with the higher power supply? and i don't really care what people say about the OS because i personally don't care for windows 8, and would i even need to overclock the amd build for gaming.because at this point im just pushing my budget
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November 3, 2013 8:44:26 PM

No, overclock modern CPUs is a hobby. It doesn't really give any gaming performance increase.

Neither of these builds will work with more than one GPU. You need a motherboard that can run 2 PSI lanes at x8/x8.
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November 3, 2013 9:02:14 PM

could you possibly give me a mobo that can run 2psi lanes at x8/x8
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November 3, 2013 9:10:03 PM

could you give me one that will support amd?
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November 4, 2013 4:01:46 AM

Blaise170 said:
This supports 2-way SLI and Crossfire.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g41pcma...

This doesn't support sli and crossfire only at x16/x4,i wouldn't choose that one.
The cheapest one that does is the following as far as i kan see,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fatal1t...

To update your intel build for crossfire,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XeWj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XeWj/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XeWj/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($56.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($75.99 @ B&H)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($60.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other: battlefield 4 ($59.99)
Total: $1191.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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That psu is a minimum in what i recommend.A better choice would probably be the next one although that one is more expensive,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss85...
or the
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-power-supply-hale8285...
for a little less money but not modulair,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850snlb...
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-gs800
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November 4, 2013 12:45:41 PM

thanks for all your help i think im going with the amd build and worry about overclocking later if you could help me inprove the amd build more that would be awsome.
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November 5, 2013 2:21:43 PM

For an amd buld you could look at something like this,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($125.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($62.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($75.99 @ B&H)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($60.75 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other: battlefield 4 ($59.99)
Total: $1183.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 17:20 EST-0500)

I chose the FX 8320 because of the price and with some overclocking it should do very well or even without that it should be good.

If you would choose the next cooler you could shave another $20 of,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-r...

Or if you wanted some really fast ram for just a little bit more,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c11d8g...
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November 5, 2013 2:27:20 PM

Vic 40 said:
For an amd buld you could look at something like this,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($125.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($62.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($75.99 @ B&H)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($60.75 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other: battlefield 4 ($59.99)
Total: $1183.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 17:20 EST-0500)

I chose the FX 8320 because of the price and with some overclocking it should do very well or even without that it should be good.

If you would choose the next cooler you could shave another $20 of,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-r...


The Corsair h60 is a joke and the Coolermaster hyper 212 evo will cool the same or better for way less money.

Also, a 60gb SSD is pointless. 120gb or none at all is really the only way to go.

750w is way overkill. Get an antec, XFX, COrsair, Seasonic 650w unit.

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November 5, 2013 3:21:42 PM

You will still need a standard HDD to go with your SSD. 1tb is usually good.

Everything else looks good. I would get win8 for sure.
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November 5, 2013 3:26:11 PM

k thanks i already have a western digital 1T so ill think ill be fine but i just cant get myself to get windows 8 i dont like the layout and i play a few older games that wont run on windows 8 i think or at least my friend cant run them on win 8
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November 5, 2013 3:36:09 PM

Anything that runs on 7 will run on 8. You need to know how to run things in compatibility mode. I run plenty of OLD games in XP mode all the time.
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November 5, 2013 3:45:14 PM

i dont know how to do that and i dont really feel like trying to do it. it seems to challenging
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November 5, 2013 3:47:29 PM

You literally right click the icon and select properties -> run in compatibility mode...
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November 5, 2013 3:53:19 PM

now what about the layout? it looks like my phone
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November 5, 2013 3:57:56 PM

I have been using with no touch screens and find it even faster to navigate than win7. I rarely if ever (once every few days) use the 'app screen' I always just use the normal desktop.
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November 5, 2013 4:00:48 PM

While I found Windows 8 to be much nicer aesthetically, there were a few games that I couldn't get to run even in compatibility mode.
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November 5, 2013 4:07:02 PM

what are some of the games
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November 5, 2013 4:09:42 PM

I can run anything like rollercoaster tycoon, old flight simulators, Doom, old sims games.
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November 5, 2013 4:11:27 PM

GTA IV was one of them actually. It wouldn't run no matter what I tried.
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November 5, 2013 4:21:20 PM

was that the only game you noticed or is there other games?
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November 5, 2013 4:28:18 PM

iNSANE WaffLeZz said:
was that the only game you noticed or is there other games?


That's the only one I can think of off the top of my head, but there were a few other programs that warranted the switch for me. Otherwise Window 8 is actually brilliant, it runs most apps faster and the boot time is incredible.
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November 5, 2013 4:42:51 PM

so do you think it will run starwars battlefront 2 and yes i still like to play it, counter strike, garrys mod, half life 2, and FTL?
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November 5, 2013 4:49:50 PM

Yes all those sound run fine. I play garys mod, TF2, half life 2 all the time.

those don't really count as old. I'm talking pre-XP even run fine.
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November 5, 2013 4:55:02 PM

ok i will get win 8 this really helped thanks
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November 6, 2013 1:36:35 PM

Yes any high quality mid-tower ATX case will fit these parts just fine.
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November 6, 2013 1:51:35 PM

how would this one work NZXT 220 and yes i know it doesnt have a SSD or 2.5 inch spot for it but ill just custom mount it
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November 6, 2013 1:59:02 PM

iNSANE WaffLeZz said:
how would this one work NZXT 220 and yes i know it doesnt have a SSD or 2.5 inch spot for it but ill just custom mount it


It will be fine. I have my SSD and laptop HDD mounted in a bracket that works well, you might want to take a look.

http://www.amazon.com/SILVERSTONE-SDP08-3-5-2-5-Inch-Co...
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November 6, 2013 2:03:19 PM

iNSANE WaffLeZz said:
how would this one work NZXT 220 and yes i know it doesnt have a SSD or 2.5 inch spot for it but ill just custom mount it


This is a very good quality case.
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November 6, 2013 2:04:33 PM

so just take out the 3.5 inch bracket and put in a 2.5?
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November 6, 2013 2:10:54 PM

iNSANE WaffLeZz said:
so just take out the 3.5 inch bracket and put in a 2.5?


The one I linked is a 3.5" bracket. You simply screw in the HDDs, and then you can slide it into the tower like you would a normal 3.5" HDD.
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November 6, 2013 2:18:43 PM

if its 3.5 i already have some in the case but the ssd is 2.5 inches so i dont know if you meant to say 2.5 or maybe i just dont understand
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November 6, 2013 2:20:52 PM

iNSANE WaffLeZz said:
if its 3.5 i already have some in the case but the ssd is 2.5 inches so i dont know if you meant to say 2.5 or maybe i just dont understand


My SSD which is 2.5" will not normally fit in my tower. Towers use the 3.5" standard. The bracket I linked converts the 2.5" SSD into a 3.5" SSD so that you can put it in the tower without it falling out. :) 
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November 6, 2013 2:28:37 PM

oh so its pretty much 2 in 1
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November 6, 2013 2:32:59 PM

iNSANE WaffLeZz said:
oh so its pretty much 2 in 1


Yeah you can place two 2.5" drives into the bracket and it works just like a regular 3.5" HDD (size-wise).
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November 6, 2013 2:37:43 PM

is there a video you can send me on how to install it?
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November 6, 2013 2:40:13 PM

You just slide your 2.5 drive in and screw it in. Then you slide the bracket into the 3.5 bay on the computer and screw it in like a normal HDD.
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November 6, 2013 2:52:06 PM

Here's a picture of mine, just to give you an idea.

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November 6, 2013 3:38:29 PM

I bought my parts separately. I had to wait a bit longer, but I saved almost $50 on RAM and about $60 on my GPU.
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November 6, 2013 3:53:41 PM

so im taking that as a yes and did you ever get any parts that didnt work out of the box and if you want to it would be alot easier to talk over skype:hujo98
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November 6, 2013 4:11:35 PM

iNSANE WaffLeZz said:
so im taking that as a yes and did you ever get any parts that didnt work out of the box and if you want to it would be alot easier to talk over skype:hujo98


I just received a gtx660ti that was dead on arrival today actually. Just mailed it off for RMA. Should have a new one by late next week.

Other than that, no I have not.
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November 6, 2013 4:23:29 PM

Vic 40 said:
For an amd buld you could look at something like this,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($125.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($62.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($75.99 @ B&H)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($60.75 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other: battlefield 4 ($59.99)
Total: $1183.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 17:20 EST-0500)

I chose the FX 8320 because of the price and with some overclocking it should do very well or even without that it should be good.

If you would choose the next cooler you could shave another $20 of,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-r...

Or if you wanted some really fast ram for just a little bit more,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c11d8g...


Wouldn't the 7970 save $50 plus still perform the same as a 280X?

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November 6, 2013 4:43:27 PM

is the a certain time you have to mail it in for RMA
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