which build is provide better performance

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 3, 2013

this build http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1X8sL
or this buildhttp://pcpartpicker.com/user/hujo98/saved/2Fin
i already have a case and a HDD so dont mention that but how would this perform and which one should i go with

tiny voices · Nov 3, 2013

The first build has some problems:

That motherboard is no good for overclocking. The VRMs have no heatsinks and the board overheats.
The CPU cooler will be loud and not cool any better than an air cooler. I ALWAYS prefer air coolers to closed loop liquid coolers.
Get win8. It is simply better.
750w is overkill. 650w will be plenty.

Second build:

Same thing with the CPU cooler.
The Cx line form Corsair isn't the best .The XFX650 would be MUCH better.
Win8 as well

Both build will perform the same in most games. The GPUs are the same and this does 85% of the work in games. It all whether your prefer AMD or intel from there.

Blaise170 · Nov 3, 2013

The Intel build will be better, but get this RAM instead. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl8d8gbxm

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 3, 2013

but what if i wanted to crossfire 2 R9 280xs in the future wouldn't it be better to go with the higher power supply? and i don't really care what people say about the OS because i personally don't care for windows 8, and would i even need to overclock the amd build for gaming.because at this point im just pushing my budget

tiny voices · Nov 3, 2013

No, overclock modern CPUs is a hobby. It doesn't really give any gaming performance increase.

Neither of these builds will work with more than one GPU. You need a motherboard that can run 2 PSI lanes at x8/x8.

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 4, 2013

could you possibly give me a mobo that can run 2psi lanes at x8/x8

Blaise170 · Nov 4, 2013

This supports 2-way SLI and Crossfire.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g41pcmate

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 4, 2013

could you give me one that will support amd?

Blaise170 · Nov 4, 2013

iNSANE WaffLeZz :

This AM3+ motherboard will support 2-way SLI and Crossfire.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-970extreme4

Vic 40 · Nov 4, 2013

Blaise170 :

This doesn't support sli and crossfire only at x16/x4,i wouldn't choose that one.
The cheapest one that does is the following as far as i kan see,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fatal1tyz87killer

To update your intel build for crossfire,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XeWj
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XeWj/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XeWj/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($56.88 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($75.99 @ B&H)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($60.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other: battlefield 4 ($59.99)
Total: $1191.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 06:37 EST-0500)

That psu is a minimum in what i recommend.A better choice would probably be the next one although that one is more expensive,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-ss850am
or the
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nzxt-power-supply-hale82850m
for a little less money but not modulair,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1850snlb9
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-gs800

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 4, 2013

thanks for all your help i think im going with the amd build and worry about overclocking later if you could help me inprove the amd build more that would be awsome.

Vic 40 · Nov 5, 2013

For an amd buld you could look at something like this,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($125.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($62.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($75.99 @ B&H)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($60.75 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other: battlefield 4 ($59.99)
Total: $1183.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 17:20 EST-0500)

I chose the FX 8320 because of the price and with some overclocking it should do very well or even without that it should be good.

If you would choose the next cooler you could shave another $20 of,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

Or if you wanted some really fast ram for just a little bit more,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c11d8gab

tiny voices · Nov 5, 2013

Vic 40 :

For an amd buld you could look at something like this,

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XVNm/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($158.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($125.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($62.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Razer DeathStalker Wired Gaming Keyboard ($75.99 @ B&H)
Mouse: Razer Naga 2012 Wired Laser Mouse ($60.75 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Razer Kraken Pro Headset ($65.99 @ B&H)
Other: battlefield 4 ($59.99)
Total: $1183.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 17:20 EST-0500)

I chose the FX 8320 because of the price and with some overclocking it should do very well or even without that it should be good.

If you would choose the next cooler you could shave another $20 of,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

The Corsair h60 is a joke and the Coolermaster hyper 212 evo will cool the same or better for way less money.

Also, a 60gb SSD is pointless. 120gb or none at all is really the only way to go.

750w is way overkill. Get an antec, XFX, COrsair, Seasonic 650w unit.

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 5, 2013

ok so i changed up the SSD new, PSU, the ram and added the coolmaster 212 evo. good or bad?http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1XXCs

tiny voices · Nov 5, 2013

You will still need a standard HDD to go with your SSD. 1tb is usually good.

Everything else looks good. I would get win8 for sure.

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 5, 2013

k thanks i already have a western digital 1T so ill think ill be fine but i just cant get myself to get windows 8 i dont like the layout and i play a few older games that wont run on windows 8 i think or at least my friend cant run them on win 8

tiny voices · Nov 5, 2013

Anything that runs on 7 will run on 8. You need to know how to run things in compatibility mode. I run plenty of OLD games in XP mode all the time.

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 5, 2013

i dont know how to do that and i dont really feel like trying to do it. it seems to challenging

tiny voices · Nov 5, 2013

You literally right click the icon and select properties -> run in compatibility mode...

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 5, 2013

now what about the layout? it looks like my phone

tiny voices · Nov 5, 2013

I have been using with no touch screens and find it even faster to navigate than win7. I rarely if ever (once every few days) use the 'app screen' I always just use the normal desktop.

Blaise170 · Nov 5, 2013

While I found Windows 8 to be much nicer aesthetically, there were a few games that I couldn't get to run even in compatibility mode.

iNSANE WaffLeZz · Nov 5, 2013

what are some of the games

tiny voices · Nov 5, 2013

I can run anything like rollercoaster tycoon, old flight simulators, Doom, old sims games.

Blaise170 · Nov 5, 2013

GTA IV was one of them actually. It wouldn't run no matter what I tried.

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