Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

GTX 770 4gb vs 780 3GB [Final Build before buying] HELP!

Tags:
  • Systems
Last response: in Systems
Share
November 3, 2013 9:51:58 PM

EDIT:

Updated my build!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($540.91 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($540.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $2368.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-07 01:52 EST-0500)



or



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Performance Edition (2-Pack) 63.5 CFM 120mm Fans ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition 67.8 CFM 140mm Fan ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Total: $2052.32
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-07 01:55 EST-0500)






Would the extra $300 be worth the upgrade?

I was only supposed to spend $2000 on this, so money is kind of a big deal.

I have been suggested the AMD R9 290 but I am not really buying into it yet.
Until I see some aftermarket coolers and the prices on those I don't think I will be buying.
No way I want to get a reference card that has heating issues, as well as we all know the new cards have their problems on release.
I prefer a card that has already been tweaked with and has the knots straightened out with better cooling.
Also, I would like to have my build completed by the 2nd week in December, so if the cards aren't out then I cant consider them.
I am also going to be checking out the Black Friday/ Cyber Monday deals and hopefully there will be something I can use.
Most likely a HDD.

Are there any other things I may need?
Wires, connectors?
I already have Artic Thermal Paste and 3 Acer thin bezel 23" Monitors.

I will be using this build to play Skyrim on Ultra Settings with a bunch of mods and ENB's active while on Nvidia Surround while streaming it on Twitch.tv with 2 accessory monitor TV's overhead, one using my browser and one using the program I monitor my Twitch.tv Stream.

I would like to do this with Skyrim, DayZ, and Battlefield 4.

I thought I would give a detailed explanation so it can be actually visualized and understood.

I will be running my 2 overhead TVs on my separate i7 integrated GPU.

More about : gtx 770 4gb 780 3gb final build buying

November 3, 2013 9:59:45 PM

You could crossfire two 280X and get better performance for cheaper.
m
0
l
November 3, 2013 10:26:37 PM

i would disagree with the above poster, a 770 is (if only slightly) faster than a 280X, has 1 more GB of RAM than the 280X, and Crossfire is still not completely fixed
m
0
l
Related resources
November 3, 2013 11:01:15 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($81.76 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2054.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 02:00 EST-0500)

Thats the best I can squeeze out of $2000 is is about $50 over, Although I might be able to shave off that little bit extra if you like I assume you can pay a smidge extra
m
0
l
November 4, 2013 1:07:02 AM

mcdonh said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($81.76 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2054.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 02:00 EST-0500)

Thats the best I can squeeze out of $2000 is is about $50 over, Although I might be able to shave off that little bit extra if you like I assume you can pay a smidge extra


I am actually liking this!

Are those 780s better than the 4gb 770s?
What all did you change?
m
0
l
November 4, 2013 1:11:36 AM

x24x said:
mcdonh said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($81.76 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2054.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 02:00 EST-0500)

Thats the best I can squeeze out of $2000 is is about $50 over, Although I might be able to shave off that little bit extra if you like I assume you can pay a smidge extra


I am actually liking this!

Are those 780s better than the 4gb 770s?
What all did you change?


780's overclocked are better than GTX Titans, I changed the RAM to a better quality brand and speed, I lowered your ssd Capacity as you don't need that much. I got you a better CPU cooler as the i7 4770K can be overclocked and that is a very good cpu cooler. I switched the mobo, gave you a more apropriate psu (power supply) you don't need a full tower so I changed that to a kind of mid tower version of the phantom (most beautiful case of all time :D ) and of course I gave you amazing graphics cards ;) 
m
0
l
November 4, 2013 11:05:10 AM

mcdonh said:
x24x said:
mcdonh said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($81.76 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2054.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 02:00 EST-0500)

Thats the best I can squeeze out of $2000 is is about $50 over, Although I might be able to shave off that little bit extra if you like I assume you can pay a smidge extra


I am actually liking this!

Are those 780s better than the 4gb 770s?
What all did you change?


780's overclocked are better than GTX Titans, I changed the RAM to a better quality brand and speed, I lowered your ssd Capacity as you don't need that much. I got you a better CPU cooler as the i7 4770K can be overclocked and that is a very good cpu cooler. I switched the mobo, gave you a more apropriate psu (power supply) you don't need a full tower so I changed that to a kind of mid tower version of the phantom (most beautiful case of all time :D ) and of course I gave you amazing graphics cards ;) 


Do you think I should do liquid cooling? Like $99 corsair?
Is it hard to set up?
I was getting the heat sync because it's easier
m
0
l
November 4, 2013 12:50:49 PM

top stop stacking replies i'll make a new section. Ok although water cooling is good and closed loops are not to hard to setup the Noctua heatsink is easier. Also that particular heatsink can out perform most lower end water cooling systems, the h100i only just beats it and that is one of the best closed loop water cooling systems out there. I would sugest you just stick with the heatsink because it is an amzing heatsink although pherhaps unseemly. Basically your desicion is more$ looks better or less$ doesn'yt look so good
m
0
l
November 4, 2013 5:18:04 PM

mcdonh said:
top stop stacking replies i'll make a new section. Ok although water cooling is good and closed loops are not to hard to setup the Noctua heatsink is easier. Also that particular heatsink can out perform most lower end water cooling systems, the h100i only just beats it and that is one of the best closed loop water cooling systems out there. I would sugest you just stick with the heatsink because it is an amzing heatsink although pherhaps unseemly. Basically your desicion is more$ looks better or less$ doesn'yt look so good

How is this?



Do I need a better power supply for the build?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Other: MSI GeForce GT 610 2GB Video Card ($46.94)
Total: $2209.59
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 20:17 EST-0500)
m
0
l
November 4, 2013 9:36:52 PM

or should I just modify this one?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($131.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($165.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($389.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1998.24
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 20:18 EST-0500)
m
0
l
November 4, 2013 10:38:52 PM

the power supply should be fine for both of those builds, of course the top one is better however, not actually sure what you mean here
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 12:54:56 AM

I think I am actually going to go with this build.
I found out that I can run my 2 extra monitors off of the i7 built in GPU through the mobo ports !! :) 

If I run 3 monitors on Nvidia surround and I run 2 tv's off of the i7 GPU on the MOBO ports, then will that work? If I decided on the 4gb windforce Gigabyte 770s SLI then would the performance decrease if I used the integrated GPU of the i7 (just for 2 extra screens like browsers?)

Can you recommend a mid tower that can hold the radiator of the h100i, and all of the other components, as well as being simple looking with a window and good performance ventilation? gunmetal/black


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2004.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 03:54 EST-0500)
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 7:26:34 AM

x24x said:
I think I am actually going to go with this build.
I found out that I can run my 2 extra monitors off of the i7 built in GPU through the mobo ports !! :) 

If I run 3 monitors on Nvidia surround and I run 2 tv's off of the i7 GPU on the MOBO ports, then will that work? If I decided on the 4gb windforce Gigabyte 770s SLI then would the performance decrease if I used the integrated GPU of the i7 (just for 2 extra screens like browsers?)

Can you recommend a mid tower that can hold the radiator of the h100i, and all of the other components, as well as being simple looking with a window and good performance ventilation? gunmetal/black


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2004.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 03:54 EST-0500)


Why don't you buy R9 290 crossfire instead? You will gain a 30% performance increase. I recommend buying Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl MIDI tower. My friend got that build, only with R9 290X and I can't hear his R9 290X while we play BF4.
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 7:44:37 AM

Axzevos said:
x24x said:
I think I am actually going to go with this build.
I found out that I can run my 2 extra monitors off of the i7 built in GPU through the mobo ports !! :) 

If I run 3 monitors on Nvidia surround and I run 2 tv's off of the i7 GPU on the MOBO ports, then will that work? If I decided on the 4gb windforce Gigabyte 770s SLI then would the performance decrease if I used the integrated GPU of the i7 (just for 2 extra screens like browsers?)

Can you recommend a mid tower that can hold the radiator of the h100i, and all of the other components, as well as being simple looking with a window and good performance ventilation? gunmetal/black


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2004.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 03:54 EST-0500)


Why don't you buy R9 290 crossfire instead? You will gain a 30% performance increase. I recommend buying Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl MIDI tower. My friend got that build, only with R9 290X and I can't hear his R9 290X while we play BF4.


+1
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 9:53:58 AM

mcdonh said:
the power supply should be fine for both of those builds, of course the top one is better however, not actually sure what you mean here


Axzevos said:
x24x said:
I think I am actually going to go with this build.
I found out that I can run my 2 extra monitors off of the i7 built in GPU through the mobo ports !! :) 

If I run 3 monitors on Nvidia surround and I run 2 tv's off of the i7 GPU on the MOBO ports, then will that work? If I decided on the 4gb windforce Gigabyte 770s SLI then would the performance decrease if I used the integrated GPU of the i7 (just for 2 extra screens like browsers?)



Can you recommend a mid tower that can hold the radiator of the h100i, and all of the other components, as well as being simple looking with a window and good performance ventilation? gunmetal/black


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2004.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 03:54 EST-0500)


Why don't you buy R9 290 crossfire instead? You will gain a 30% performance increase. I recommend buying Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl MIDI tower. My friend got that build, only with R9 290X and I can't hear his R9 290X while we play BF4.


What would be the price increase for crossfire 290x with the aftermarket coolers?
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 10:16:59 AM

x24x said:
mcdonh said:
the power supply should be fine for both of those builds, of course the top one is better however, not actually sure what you mean here


Axzevos said:
x24x said:
I think I am actually going to go with this build.
I found out that I can run my 2 extra monitors off of the i7 built in GPU through the mobo ports !! :) 

If I run 3 monitors on Nvidia surround and I run 2 tv's off of the i7 GPU on the MOBO ports, then will that work? If I decided on the 4gb windforce Gigabyte 770s SLI then would the performance decrease if I used the integrated GPU of the i7 (just for 2 extra screens like browsers?)



Can you recommend a mid tower that can hold the radiator of the h100i, and all of the other components, as well as being simple looking with a window and good performance ventilation? gunmetal/black


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2004.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 03:54 EST-0500)


Why don't you buy R9 290 crossfire instead? You will gain a 30% performance increase. I recommend buying Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl MIDI tower. My friend got that build, only with R9 290X and I can't hear his R9 290X while we play BF4.


What would be the price increase for crossfire 290x with the aftermarket coolers?


Thats hard to say since they are not out yet. But you will be able to OC them, and then maybe 10-15% better then the reference R9 290X. But I said R9 290 non X. R9 290X costs 159-179 dollars more then R9 290.
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 10:35:35 AM

mcdonh said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($81.76 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2054.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 02:00 EST-0500)

Thats the best I can squeeze out of $2000 is is about $50 over, Although I might be able to shave off that little bit extra if you like I assume you can pay a smidge extra


Nice!
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 10:39:39 AM

mcdonh said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.69 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($81.76 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2054.06
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 02:00 EST-0500)

Thats the best I can squeeze out of $2000 is is about $50 over, Although I might be able to shave off that little bit extra if you like I assume you can pay a smidge extra


Thats a nice build :) . I recommend him going for that one.
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 11:50:24 AM

Which one would be worth it and best?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Gun Metal) ATX Full Tower Case ($149.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2004.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:47 EST-0500)

Or

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($98.99 @ Mac Mall)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.70 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($494.70 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2087.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 14:48 EST-0500)
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 12:30:46 PM

I would go with the second build for the price.
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 12:49:22 PM

man you don't need liquid cooling, take it out of the second build and put in the phantec or the noctua and you will be perfectly on budget almost and with good performance
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 2:41:04 PM

mcdonh said:
man you don't need liquid cooling, take it out of the second build and put in the phantec or the noctua and you will be perfectly on budget almost and with good performance


What is wrong with the liquid?
It's only about $40 difference and it looks nicer than a blocky heat sync.
What are the drawbacks?
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 3:03:28 PM

x24x said:
mcdonh said:
man you don't need liquid cooling, take it out of the second build and put in the phantec or the noctua and you will be perfectly on budget almost and with good performance


What is wrong with the liquid?
It's only about $40 difference and it looks nicer than a blocky heat sync.
What are the drawbacks?

essentially it is your choice but it is harder to install and there is a higher amount of maintenance required(refilling, cleaning out radiators etc.)
By the way for above questions and what not crossfire 290's are not better than 780's in sli as they have the ability to out perform titans, dual 290X's could by they cost more.

A good and simple case is the NZXT Phantom 410 and it comes with decent cooling aswell, it comes in a variety of colours including matte black and gunmetal
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 3:41:06 PM

Excited, as this is the first thread where there is discussion of graphics card tradeoffs since the 290X/290 release and nVidia's price cuts. Throwing the 780Ti into the mix is even more interesting. It's just so hard to commit to buying a graphics card right now given how fast the ground is moving under the industry.

Amazing that the BestConfigs from last months have SLI 770s when now you can have SLI 780s / 290s allowing for 4K gaming eventually.
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 5:28:07 PM

no one really has 4K monitors yet, but I think people are probably waiting for the price goes down, and I also know alot of pc enthusiasts are waiting for the 800 series from nividia or the 780ti but who knows what the future holds ;) 

anyway we had best not steal this thread
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 8:31:33 PM

mcdonh said:
no one really has 4K monitors yet, but I think people are probably waiting for the price goes down, and I also know alot of pc enthusiasts are waiting for the 800 series from nividia or the 780ti but who knows what the future holds ;) 

anyway we had best not steal this thread


I love discussions that improve knowledge about this stuff!

I have a few build ideas again lol.

I went with a little higher power supply (does it matter if its lower or higher on this build?)


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.48 @ OutletPC)
Other: Corsair Obsidian 750D ($159.99)
Total: $2094.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 23:20 EST-0500)


or


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($509.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.48 @ OutletPC)
Other: Corsair Obsidian 750D ($159.99)
Total: $2354.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 23:20 EST-0500)



or



PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($309.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($119.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.34 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.48 @ OutletPC)
Other: Corsair Obsidian 750D ($159.99)
Other: MSI R9 290 4GD5 (V803) Radeon R9 290 4GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ($399.99)
Other: MSI R9 290 4GD5 (V803) Radeon R9 290 4GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ($399.99)
Total: $2134.08
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-05 23:20 EST-0500)
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 10:03:28 PM

4tb is allot of data storage but if you need it feel free. the higher power supply isn't a problem, it will allow for upgrades you might want to make and that is a very good quality power supply, for gaming you only need 8gb but I supose more the merrier eh :)  technically the second build is the best. why the 750D though, its a nice case yes but its big for your build and well....a bit blockish NZXT Phantom all the way :D 
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 10:35:53 PM

mcdonh said:
x24x said:
mcdonh said:
man you don't need liquid cooling, take it out of the second build and put in the phantec or the noctua and you will be perfectly on budget almost and with good performance


What is wrong with the liquid?
It's only about $40 difference and it looks nicer than a blocky heat sync.
What are the drawbacks?

essentially it is your choice but it is harder to install and there is a higher amount of maintenance required(refilling, cleaning out radiators etc.)
By the way for above questions and what not crossfire 290's are not better than 780's in sli as they have the ability to out perform titans, dual 290X's could by they cost more.

A good and simple case is the NZXT Phantom 410 and it comes with decent cooling aswell, it comes in a variety of colours including matte black and gunmetal


mcdonh said:
4tb is allot of data storage but if you need it feel free. the higher power supply isn't a problem, it will allow for upgrades you might want to make and that is a very good quality power supply, for gaming you only need 8gb but I supose more the merrier eh :)  technically the second build is the best. why the 750D though, its a nice case yes but its big for your build and well....a bit blockish NZXT Phantom all the way :D 


You are right and wrong.
R9 290 costs 400 dollars, while gtx 780 costs 550 dollars. If both had same price, I would of course buy GTX 780, but since it's he could save 300 dollars. I would go with R9 290 since it got alot better performance per dollar. And on most cases, it beats a gtx 780 when both are stock :) 
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 10:56:08 PM

so if I am running dual cards I should go with the 780s evga?

What is the best aftermarket 780?

I like the simple blocky cases lol :) 

I also want to swap out the fans on the 780s cooling system for ball bearing fans. Preferibly black and blue. Any suggestions? also, suggestions on case fans?
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 11:01:28 PM

WAIT FOR GTX 780 TI
m
0
l
November 5, 2013 11:18:27 PM

BuzzKenway said:
WAIT FOR GTX 780 TI


I cant wait lol

I need Dual SLI
m
0
l
November 6, 2013 3:09:17 PM

Do they both perform the same?

For-ev-er lol


What do you think about the 780 build with 120gb ssd?
m
0
l
November 6, 2013 11:17:13 PM

Updated the OP with the current build I selected.
I didn't want to create a new thread so people can reference the comments.
m
0
l
November 7, 2013 12:20:37 AM

EVGA Gtx 780 SC ACX is best also Msi Gtx 780 Lightning is also good

120 gigs SSd would be great ! Go with Samsung SSD

Also go with Asus Mobo
m
0
l
!