what improvements can be made here?

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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/heeroyuy79/saved/2Jpc

i am also wanting to put fans on the case (it apparently has 4 spaces for 120mm fans but i think a fan controller would be needed but i know nothing about fan controllers (my case has one built in)

i would like it if the price was around £600 (£650 the absolute maximum i would say)

also if a cheaper lower watt PSU can be used (this wont be upgraded for xfire or sli at all) then that would be useful

just made a few changes (cheaper ram 8 core processor instead of 6 core (slightly slower but i expect the better architecture and a bit of OC can negate that - the fact that the 8 core is a bit cheaper is a bonus) and a 500W corsair psu)
 

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heres another option

you would save a bit of money if you want to go 280x. i coule put a bit less of a cpu and throw in an ssd if you want. its a good build though

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1XgUi
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1XgUi/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1XgUi/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Thermal Compound: Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste (£8.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£29.99 @ Novatech)
Memory: PNY XLR8 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.78 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (£251.72 @ Scan.co.uk)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN951N 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter (£18.74 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£28.49 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£41.40 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.86 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £648.19
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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dottorrent

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Do you really need a blu-ray drive? If so, here is a more improved setup, though a quid over your budget -

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor (£113.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Thermal Compound: Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste (£8.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£76.09 @ Dabs)
Memory: PNY XLR8 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£46.74 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (£171.83 @ Dabs)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-N10 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£13.49 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case (£46.55 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£55.68 @ Dabs)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (£56.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £651.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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This has a better thermal paste than the old Arctic silver 5, a more powerful PSU, a better motherboard, higher quality case and a higher quality HDD. Hope you like it.
 

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That motherboard is going to die with the FX-8350. That is a 95w TDP limit board and the CPU has a 125w TDP.
 

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sorry man, but you are wrong. gigabyte lists the 8300 series cpu's as compatible with this board probably because the tdp is 95w

http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=3833

anyway mine is a bit of a better build with a better gpu, cpu and hdd
 

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That says the FX 8300 CPU, not the series.
 

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yup sorry you are right, heres the build with a 280x and a $100 motherboard.
 

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is the motherboard I selected not compatible? (pcpartpicker appears to have some compatibility filter thing that apparently stops you from selecting things that are not compatible with what you have selected so I just went with that)

the blu ray drive may change because the build is not actually for me its for a friend whos asking me to build him something that can game but cheaply (the blu ray is because he does have blu ray dvds but as of this moment I do not know if he wants blu ray functionality) (so the £650 is the absolute upper limit)

and the thermal paste is something I will be using as well so i'm going to buy that myself (unless that nanodiamond stuff is better because as far as I am aware silver 5 is one of the go to for high end stuff - it along with my 212 has got my 2500k up to 4.7 ghz)
 

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What PcPartPicker doesn't tell you is TDP limits. That ASrock Motherboard has a TDP limit of 95, hence the 4 pin ATX connector and the CPU you have selected has a 125W TDP. If you breach the motherboard's limit, you will burn the components out. The motherboard I have selected will support it fine, even with an overclock.
 

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so will mine. you should check out benchmarks of the different components, my build is the best that has been listed so far
 

dottorrent

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Though the FX-8300 is not actually sold in retail stores, it is installed in OEM gaming and editing systems, so I do think my system maybe easier to buy and source.
 

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if you check back to my build, it has an 8350 and a Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 all readilly available high end components. its just the difference of a $50 motherboard and a $30 motherboard.
really not a big deal

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xv0X
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xv0X/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xv0X/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£23.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Thermal Compound: Antec Formula 7 Nano Diamond 4g Thermal Paste (£8.36 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£51.88 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: PNY XLR8 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£37.88 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£52.78 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card (£219.99 @ Ebuyer)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN951N 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter (£18.74 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£28.49 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£41.40 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (£10.78 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £638.27
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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I honestly think so.

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well I have made a few changes myself (I removed the thermal paste because that's something i'm buying anyway)
the motherboard someone said would be better
I dunno about the 8350 i'm going to check benchmarks and stuff later but for now I will tell him the rough price range and see if what is there is ok

ok for some reason a load of changes I made didn't apply I have gone and remade the changes and saved it so it should show what I changed now