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November 4, 2013 6:12:03 AM

Building gaming PC for 14yo son for Xmas. Will need prebuilt but can customize on iBuypower or Cyberpowerpc. $1200-$1500 budget. Don't need monitor. Looking for advice on best bang for buck that will also get son "respect" amongst his gamer peers. Thanks for indulging my ignorance!!

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November 4, 2013 6:15:53 AM

do you need a monitor, etc?

Any wanna be my mom. Be nice to get a $1500 PC for Xmas instead of spending $1500 on bail.
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November 4, 2013 6:17:31 AM

monitor not needed but do need keyboard and mouse
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November 4, 2013 6:19:37 AM

@op

what are your thoughts on building it yourself from parts?
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November 4, 2013 6:20:54 AM

While I would like to believe I have that skill....I must admit I don't nor do I know anyone who does. I realize this might mean it will cost me a bit more.
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November 4, 2013 6:23:34 AM

if you can plug your phone into a charger, build a puzzle or play with legos... you can build one. its that easy once you have advice on what to buy. your choice though

i'd advise this over buying a prebuilt as you know what you're buying and the people here can guide you through it if need be.

just a thought of course.
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November 4, 2013 6:25:57 AM

sorry for the multiple posts... TH is lagging or something...

edit: have taken care of duplicate posts...
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November 4, 2013 6:31:10 AM

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sorry for the multiple posts... TH is lagging or something...


No problem...Okay go for it on the recommendations for building it myself. If there is an opportunity to save $$ I will take it. Also.. if it's not necessary to spend that much to get good performance I appreciate that advice as well. He wants to play World of Warcraft, Skyrim etc...and he is a MINECRAFT addict! Thanks...does any of this come with directions to complete the install of components?
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November 4, 2013 6:33:29 AM

May I suggest that to get "better band for the buck and respect" that you consider funding a project for you and your son to build such a pc together.
The only part that needs some experience is the parts list, and you will get that here.
The end result is that Son(and you) will learn something. The experience is priceless.

Your budget is plenty adequate.
You will come out of it probably with a i5-4670K, a Z87 based motherboard, and a $500 graphics card like a GTX780.
Here are some links on the self build process:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok
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November 4, 2013 6:38:31 AM

computer parts normally come with manuals.

the motherboard manual tells you where to connect everything and since parts all have unique shapes.... its like legos or the game where you pass shapes through holes...

there are also TONS of videos with step by step by step.

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wow & minecraft do not require a good pc to play. skyrim requires a bit more.

just how important to you is "respect" amongst his gaming peers?

i could suggest something a bit flashy (but still within your budget) or something cheaper yet about equal in terms of performance.

also how big of a pc case can you fit?

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November 4, 2013 6:49:27 AM

Not sure how to link Cyberpower PC carts to show you all the details . . . but this is built with options off of the Gamer Xtreme 1000 (NO MONITOR) . . . you'd need to supply a custom graphic for the laser etching on the window, or remove that option or pick one of their pre-made images. In teh end it comes to 1277, and is one beastly machine.

*BASE_PRICE: [+779]
BLUETOOTH: None
CAS: Raidmax Viper Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ 1x USB 3.0 Port & Side Window Panel (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4670K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans for selected case (Maximum Silent Operation) [+29] (1,000 RPM Black Color with No LED Enlobal Magnetic Barometric Bearing 17 dBA)
ENGRAVING: Custom Picture (we will contact you for picture submission detail after processing your order) [+29]
FA_HDD: None
FAN: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo Gaming Cooling Fan [+4]
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU1: Intel GRID 2 Gaming Coupon [+0]
FREEBIE_MB: None
FREEBIE_VC2: None
GLASSES: None
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
HDD2: None
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: (Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming Keyboard & Mouse Combo [+0]
MB_SRT: 64GB SanDisk SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 490 MB/s Read & 240 MB/s Write [+76] (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory [+34] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Military Class 4, OC Genie II, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, HDMI, 2 Gen3 PCIe x16, 2x PCI-e & 2 PCI (Pro OC Certified)
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
NOISEREDUCE2: Power Supply Gasket [+5]
NOISEREDUCE3: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Corsair CX600 600W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [+25]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TABLET: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
TVRC: None
USB: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: AMD Radeon R9 280X 3GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+258] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
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Edit: I also agree with the others, making it a project that you two learn to build the machine together would probably be cheaper and more fun. Plus, learning to build the machine means it will be easier in the future to get upgrades and design new machines since you and him would both know how to self-install/self-build.
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November 4, 2013 6:50:19 AM

here is just one option as to what you can buy... i'm sure you will get plenty of other people stating some ideas

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xhbj) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xhbj/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1Xhbj/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
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**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k) | $219.99 @ Amazon
**CPU Cooler** | [Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i) | $99.99 @ TigerDirect
**Motherboard** | [Asus SABERTOOTH Z87 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-sabertoot...) | $234.99 @ NCIX US
**Memory** | [Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997092) | $79.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-driv...) | $98.99 @ Mac Mall
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h...) | $79.99 @ NCIX US
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-02gp42776k...) | $355.66 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r) | $49.99 @ NCIX US
**Power Supply** | [Corsair Professional 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu...) | $114.98 @ Newegg
**Optical Drive** | [Lite-On IHES312-98 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-optical-drive-ihes...) | $69.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-fqc04649) | $129.98 @ OutletPC
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $1515.53
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 09:46 EST-0500 |

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there is alot of wiggle room..

if he is not going to overclock you can save a bit of money on the cpu.

you dont need a watercooling loop so some money can be saved.

the gpu can be dropped down a notch and other upgrades added
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November 4, 2013 6:59:22 AM

A son should always respect his mom.
most can build a really high-end computer 1500, ill post one soon
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November 4, 2013 7:07:22 AM

Hi! First off, let me say that you are an awesome mom!
Second, I highly suggest that you build this yourself if you have the time/energy to put forth. It really isn't that hard, it's more or less just legos for adults. You can watch youtube videos on how you put everything together and how to install all of the necessary software. But if this seems like too much then try calling a local computer store and ask them if you brought them the parts would they be able to put it together for you?
Also, where do you live? This makes a difference when suggest parts and merchants to buy from. You don't have to be super specific, but at least the city you live in.

Here is the build I have put together:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($107.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($494.70 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1496.22

CPU: I chose a locked processor from the latest generation of CPU's from intel. This means that you will not be able to overclock the CPU, but if this is just for a 14yo casual gamer, I doubt that will make much of a difference to him.

Motherboard: I just chose a cheap mobo that supports your CPU. Gigabyte is a great brand, as well as Asus. I would limit my selection to those two brands, as they have the best handle on the Haswell chipset (I have chosen a Haswell based CPU for you).

RAM: I went with 8GB of ram, which is perfect for a gaming machine. When selecting RAM, you want to make sure that you are looking at a 2 module set (such as 2x4GB in this case) and also you want to look at the speed of the RAM. DDR3-1600 is pretty good for gaming, I wouldn't go any lower.

Storage: I have selected to storage drives for you. The first is an SSD for your Operating System and a few basic applications/games. An SSD will drastically reduce your boot-up times as well as your read/write speeds. It will make loading games and downloading files much faster. I also included a 1TB drive for mass storage. This drive is for everything else.

For the GPU I went with a GTX 780. This is a high end card that will run any current game at maximum settings. When building a gaming machine, the GPU is the work-horse. This is where you want to splurge the most. This card should not have to be upgraded for a few years.

Case: I just went with a cheap, minimalist look case. Honestly, this is where it comes down to personal preference. Make sure that you select an ATX Mid Tower case. A full tower will be huge and unnecessary for this build, and a micro-ATX case will not have enough space for the components. There are tons of cases out there, some with cool LED lighting, some optimized for silence, and other that just have a minimalist look. I prefer cases for Corsair because they usually have a nice sleek look, but Cooler Master is very popular as well as Fractal Design.

PSU: When selecting a PSU the brand is very important. You want one from Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, or XFX. I went with one that is semi-modular. All this means is that only the absolutely necessary cables are bound straight to the power supply, and the rest must be plugged in. This is great so you wont have to tie up a bunch of unused cables and stuff them in the case somewhere. It will help to make the build look a lot cleaner and tidier.

I chose Windows 7 just because I haven't used Windows 8. I have heard mixed reviews about it, so this is up to you.

The mouse and keyboard are both great for gaming. You want to stick with an optical mouse for gaming, and a mechanical keyboard for gaming. If you are bothered by the "clicky" noise of a mechanical keyboard, you can get a keyboard with different switches to make it quieter.

Sorry this isn't the most in depth review of the parts I chose for you. I hope this can be a jumping off point for you. If you are a first time builder with no tech experience, this forum and Youtube are your friends! You can learn just about everything you need to learn about part selection and assembly just by watching videos on youtube.

One last note, I highly recommend Carey Holzman's youtube channel if you want to watch in-depth videos on how to build a PC. He is absolutely amazing. http://www.youtube.com/user/CareyHolzman?feature=g-subs...

Hope this helps!
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November 4, 2013 7:09:06 AM

ssddx said:
computer parts normally come with manuals.

the motherboard manual tells you where to connect everything and since parts all have unique shapes.... its like legos or the game where you pass shapes through holes...

there are also TONS of videos with step by step by step.

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wow & minecraft do not require a good pc to play. skyrim requires a bit more.

just how important to you is "respect" amongst his gaming peers?

i could suggest something a bit flashy (but still within your budget) or something cheaper yet about equal in terms of performance.

also how big of a pc case can you fit?



Cred with the friends is more important to him than to me...don't want a huge case...mid tower size is probably enough right? If it has a window and led lights that would be cool...he liked the Chimera on the ibuypower website...
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November 4, 2013 7:13:40 AM

sacara21 said:
Hi! First off, let me say that you are an awesome mom!
Second, I highly suggest that you build this yourself if you have the time/energy to put forth. It really isn't that hard, it's more or less just legos for adults. You can watch youtube videos on how you put everything together and how to install all of the necessary software. But if this seems like too much then try calling a local computer store and ask them if you brought them the parts would they be able to put it together for you?
Also, where do you live? This makes a difference when suggest parts and merchants to buy from. You don't have to be super specific, but at least the city you live in.

Here is the build I have put together:
CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H87-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($107.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.75 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($494.70 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($127.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1496.22

CPU: I chose a locked processor from the latest generation of CPU's from intel. This means that you will not be able to overclock the CPU, but if this is just for a 14yo casual gamer, I doubt that will make much of a difference to him.

Motherboard: I just chose a cheap mobo that supports your CPU. Gigabyte is a great brand, as well as Asus. I would limit my selection to those two brands, as they have the best handle on the Haswell chipset (I have chosen a Haswell based CPU for you).

RAM: I went with 8GB of ram, which is perfect for a gaming machine. When selecting RAM, you want to make sure that you are looking at a 2 module set (such as 2x4GB in this case) and also you want to look at the speed of the RAM. DDR3-1600 is pretty good for gaming, I wouldn't go any lower.

Storage: I have selected to storage drives for you. The first is an SSD for your Operating System and a few basic applications/games. An SSD will drastically reduce your boot-up times as well as your read/write speeds. It will make loading games and downloading files much faster. I also included a 1TB drive for mass storage. This drive is for everything else.

For the GPU I went with a GTX 780. This is a high end card that will run any current game at maximum settings. When building a gaming machine, the GPU is the work-horse. This is where you want to splurge the most. This card should not have to be upgraded for a few years.

Case: I just went with a cheap, minimalist look case. Honestly, this is where it comes down to personal preference. Make sure that you select an ATX Mid Tower case. A full tower will be huge and unnecessary for this build, and a micro-ATX case will not have enough space for the components. There are tons of cases out there, some with cool LED lighting, some optimized for silence, and other that just have a minimalist look. I prefer cases for Corsair because they usually have a nice sleek look, but Cooler Master is very popular as well as Fractal Design.

PSU: When selecting a PSU the brand is very important. You want one from Antec, Corsair, Seasonic, or XFX. I went with one that is semi-modular. All this means is that only the absolutely necessary cables are bound straight to the power supply, and the rest must be plugged in. This is great so you wont have to tie up a bunch of unused cables and stuff them in the case somewhere. It will help to make the build look a lot cleaner and tidier.

I chose Windows 7 just because I haven't used Windows 8. I have heard mixed reviews about it, so this is up to you.

The mouse and keyboard are both great for gaming. You want to stick with an optical mouse for gaming, and a mechanical keyboard for gaming. If you are bothered by the "clicky" noise of a mechanical keyboard, you can get a keyboard with different switches to make it quieter.

Sorry this isn't the most in depth review of the parts I chose for you. I hope this can be a jumping off point for you. If you are a first time builder with no tech experience, this forum and Youtube are your friends! You can learn just about everything you need to learn about part selection and assembly just by watching videos on youtube.

One last note, I highly recommend Carey Holzman's youtube channel if you want to watch in-depth videos on how to build a PC. He is absolutely amazing. http://www.youtube.com/user/CareyHolzman?feature=g-subs...

Hope this helps!


This helps greatly...thank you for all the explanations. I was getting sucked in to thinking I needed i7 processor and 16 GB...I'd rather spend the $$ on the GPU...so thanks for clarifying on that.
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Also..we live in the St. Louis area
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November 4, 2013 7:22:04 AM

the reason i picked an unlocked processor is that right now there is a combo deal going on right now so the difference in price is not very large and it opens up an opportunity in 3 years or more when your kid is older to play around with overclocking. if he is 14 now he will be 17 then and in the age where overclocking is "cool".

i picked a higher end motherboard because it better supports overclocking and is one of the most recommended and reliable boards you can get.

8gb of ddr3-1600 ram is good enough for gaming. i personally will use only corsair or mushkin but of course there are other brands.

i used a gtx770 since a gtx780 really isnt needed for your purposes. however, if its budgetable its definitely worth going for so the computer is more future proof.

a mid tower case is the defacto standard however a full tower case offers much better cooling performance. if you have the room for full tower i definitely say go for it however a mid tower will work.

windows 7 > windows 8. i might get flak for that but quite simply its easier to use if you already know how windows works. win8 changes alot of things.

razer keyboards are junk and always have been. while they do work (most of the time) they are just as well known for breaking or having issues. i would roll with something else.

razer deathadder mice on the otherhand arent so bad. i would go with the older blue led version though since it has nicer drivers (which dont require you to create an account).

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if you need specific advice... or have a bunch of questions... or are just thoroughly confused i could talk you through some of it.

just give me a pm on availability in what time zone. i can set up a free chat room.
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November 4, 2013 7:28:22 AM

ssddx said:
the reason i picked an unlocked processor is that right now there is a combo deal going on right now so the difference in price is not very large and it opens up an opportunity in 3 years or more when your kid is older to play around with overclocking. if he is 14 now he will be 17 then and in the age where overclocking is "cool".

i picked a higher end motherboard because it better supports overclocking and is one of the most recommended and reliable boards you can get.

8gb of ddr3-1600 ram is good enough for gaming. i personally will use only corsair or mushkin but of course there are other brands.

i used a gtx770 since a gtx780 really isnt needed for your purposes. however, if its budgetable its definitely worth going for so the computer is more future proof.

a mid tower case is the defacto standard however a full tower case offers much better cooling performance. if you have the room for full tower i definitely say go for it however a mid tower will work.

windows 7 > windows 8. i might get flak for that but quite simply its easier to use if you already know how windows works. win8 changes alot of things.

razer keyboards are junk and always have been. while they do work (most of the time) they are just as well known for breaking or having issues. i would roll with something else.

razer deathadder mice on the otherhand arent so bad. i would go with the older blue led version though since it has nicer drivers (which dont require you to create an account).

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if you need specific advice... or have a bunch of questions... or are just thoroughly confused i could talk you through some of it.

just give me a pm on availability in what time zone. i can set up a free chat room.


Thanks for the additional clarification. How do I know if a processor is locked or not? I do like the option of being able to overclock if he wants to later as his skill/interest advances. I think I am good at the moment but will reply back if chat room questions become necessary...thanks very much. We are in the central time zone..
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November 4, 2013 7:28:47 AM

ssddx said:
the reason i picked an unlocked processor is that right now there is a combo deal going on right now so the difference in price is not very large and it opens up an opportunity in 3 years or more when your kid is older to play around with overclocking. if he is 14 now he will be 17 then and in the age where overclocking is "cool".

i picked a higher end motherboard because it better supports overclocking and is one of the most recommended and reliable boards you can get.

8gb of ddr3-1600 ram is good enough for gaming. i personally will use only corsair or mushkin but of course there are other brands.

i used a gtx770 since a gtx780 really isnt needed for your purposes. however, if its budgetable its definitely worth going for so the computer is more future proof.

a mid tower case is the defacto standard however a full tower case offers much better cooling performance. if you have the room for full tower i definitely say go for it however a mid tower will work.

windows 7 > windows 8. i might get flak for that but quite simply its easier to use if you already know how windows works. win8 changes alot of things.

razer keyboards are junk and always have been. while they do work (most of the time) they are just as well known for breaking or having issues. i would roll with something else.

razer deathadder mice on the otherhand arent so bad. i would go with the older blue led version though since it has nicer drivers (which dont require you to create an account).

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if you need specific advice... or have a bunch of questions... or are just thoroughly confused i could talk you through some of it.

just give me a pm on availability in what time zone. i can set up a free chat room.


Thanks for the additional clarification. How do I know if a processor is locked or not? I do like the option of being able to overclock if he wants to later as his skill/interest advances. I think I am good at the moment but will reply back if chat room questions become necessary...thanks very much. We are in the central time zone..
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November 4, 2013 7:30:32 AM

sacara21 said:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/brentwood.aspx

Are you close to this store? If you are you can save a lot of money by purchasing your CPU+Mobo from there. They offer great deals on combos for in-store only.


Yes thank you...I will check them out. Do you know if they will do a build?
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November 4, 2013 7:36:26 AM

ksmith4370 said:
sacara21 said:
http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/brentwood.aspx

Are you close to this store? If you are you can save a lot of money by purchasing your CPU+Mobo from there. They offer great deals on combos for in-store only.


Yes thank you...I will check them out. Do you know if they will do a build?


I do not, sorry.

Also, to tell if it is unlocked there will be a "k" at the end of the name. For example, the i5-4670k is probably the processor that you should get. However, when buying an unlocked processor you have to get a Z87 motherboard so it supports overclocking. Again, I would stick with Asus and Gigabyte for the mobo. I would suggest getting the unlocked version, as it will make a big difference down the road. And with that microcenter store, you probably won't see that much of a price increase if any at all over the locked processor+H87 mobo.
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November 4, 2013 8:28:56 AM

not sure if MS offers a pc building service but the cost would be so high you would go into shock likely.

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thats okay.. just thought i'd mention the option of sorting it out as unless you are familiar with technology it can get quite confusing!

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keep in mind that prices will likely change around cyber monday. you might be able to get a much better deal so i wouldnt finalize until then. your call though. i just noticed that many products werent on sale or didnt have any combo deals right now.

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you are right... you absolutely dont need an i7. while i definitely agree an i7 is a great chip to have its not required and if you want the best bang for the buck you would get more out of a better gpu then going with an i7.

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Processor:Intel Core i5 4670K @ 3.4GHz $239.99 @Newegg.com
Free Gift: Final Fantasy XIV game
Processor Cooler:Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo $34.99 @Newegg.com
Motherboard:Asus Maximus VI Hero $194.99 @Newegg.com
Memory:G.Skill RipJaw X 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2133 $74.99 @Newegg.com
Solid State:Samsung 840 Evo 120GB $99.99 @Newegg.com
Hard Drive:Western Digital Blue 1TB $69.99 @Newegg.com
Optical Drive:Lite-ON DVD Writer $17.99 @Newegg.com
Graphic Card:XFX R9-280X 3GB $309.99 @Newegg.com
Power Supply:Corsair TX650w $89.99 @Newegg.com
Case:Cooler Master HAF 912 Blue Edition $59.99 @Newegg.com
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 8.1 Retail $119.99 @Newegg.com
$1,312.89

Some of those items have extra discounts when promo codes is applied. Those promo codes can be used for a limited time.
I've picked Windows 8.1 because it's the latest operating system and gone with retail as the difference is $20 which gives both 32bit and 64bit. Also the license can be used as much as you like as long as it's only installed on one computer.


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What is the opinion on AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB Graphic Card vs. the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770?
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November 4, 2013 9:03:44 AM

AMD Radeon HD7990 is a dual GPU card, for a 14 year old, that is overboard and the card itself cost as much as a high-end computer.
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November 4, 2013 9:08:15 AM

ksmith4370 said:
What is the opinion on AMD Radeon HD 7990 6GB Graphic Card vs. the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770?


Well the 7990 is an $800 card while the 770 is a $350 card. The 7990 is probably far out of your budget range. I would choose from the GTX 780, 770, R9 280X in that order. Also if you go with the 770 or 780 you get 3 free games with it as well (I don't know when this offer ends).
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November 4, 2013 9:13:41 AM

i'd just like to note that wd blue drives only have a 2-3 year warranty (depending on if you buy oem or retail) while black drives like the one i listed have a 5 year warranty. definitely worth the extra 2 years in my opinion.

if you dont mind a micro sized motherboard i was thoroughly impressed by what asus is giving you with the hero board when i first looked into it. less expansion possibilities but i dont forsee you doing any crazy upgrading either.

i'm not too keen on the tx series psu. the only ones i would truest are the hx since they are rock solid. i've heard of some issues with the low end.

just because windows 8 is the latest and greatest doesnt mean its the best. i would go to a store and play around to see if you like it first as quite a few hardcore windows veterans (myself included) loath it and prefer 7 instead. you will be needing the 64 bit version so there is no need for retail. i dont forsee that you want the tech support that comes with retail anyways (as it directs you you know where overseas and its not helpful at all).

in terms of gpu performance in games... take a look at the following from TH.



not shown is the gtx770 which is similar to the r9-280x at the bottom. as of right now... the 280x is a pretty solid deal at only $ however we may see a price drop from nvidia to counter this. this is why i said to wait and see for a little bit to see what the prices are like on cyber monday.
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November 4, 2013 9:17:02 AM

what you're looking for is at least 60 frames per second. any of them manage it easily on skyrim... but you want high numbers since future games will require more power to process.

i would say either a gtx 770 or r9-280x would work fine. personally i prefer nvidia (since i dont care for ati drivers) but thats just me. its a good deal.

if you wanted an upgrade i would say go with a gtx780 or r9-290x but that might push your budget out another $100 or so if you want to keep "good" components instead of cutting corners.
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November 4, 2013 9:18:34 AM

Currently the Radeons are on $700 off special when you customize through Cypberpower and iBuypower...so it was just a question. I did call the local Microcenter store and they will do a custom build with a tech charge of just $100 so depending on the deals I can get through them I may just do that. I am still nervous to do it myself and screw something up and don't have all the time in the world to study youtube etc...

Operating system will be Windows 8 as that is what my son's school uses and he has a tablet computer through school running Onenote etc...so he is used to using 8 even on a desktop which can be less than ideal.

Good suggestion to wait on Cyber Monday....
I am really appreciating everyone's input!
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November 4, 2013 9:20:21 AM

ssddx said:
i'd just like to note that wd blue drives only have a 2-3 year warranty (depending on if you buy oem or retail) while black drives like the one i listed have a 5 year warranty. definitely worth the extra 2 years in my opinion.

if you dont mind a micro sized motherboard i was thoroughly impressed by what asus is giving you with the hero board when i first looked into it. less expansion possibilities but i dont forsee you doing any crazy upgrading either.

i'm not too keen on the tx series psu. the only ones i would truest are the hx since they are rock solid. i've heard of some issues with the low end.

just because windows 8 is the latest and greatest doesnt mean its the best. i would go to a store and play around to see if you like it first as quite a few hardcore windows veterans (myself included) loath it and prefer 7 instead. you will be needing the 64 bit version so there is no need for retail. i dont forsee that you want the tech support that comes with retail anyways (as it directs you you know where overseas and its not helpful at all).

in terms of gpu performance in games... take a look at the following from TH.



not shown is the gtx770 which is similar to the r9-280x at the bottom. as of right now... the 280x is a pretty solid deal at only $ however we may see a price drop from nvidia to counter this. this is why i said to wait and see for a little bit to see what the prices are like on cyber monday.


Nvidia has already cut prices....
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November 4, 2013 9:28:02 AM

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Not sure how to link Cyberpower PC carts to show you all the details . . . but this is built with options off of the Gamer Xtreme 1000 (NO MONITOR) . . . you'd need to supply a custom graphic for the laser etching on the window, or remove that option or pick one of their pre-made images. In teh end it comes to 1277, and is one beastly machine.

*BASE_PRICE: [+779]
BLUETOOTH: None
CAS: Raidmax Viper Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ 1x USB 3.0 Port & Side Window Panel (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4670K 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1150 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Maximum Enermax 120MM Case Cooling Fans for selected case (Maximum Silent Operation) [+29] (1,000 RPM Black Color with No LED Enlobal Magnetic Barometric Bearing 17 dBA)
ENGRAVING: Custom Picture (we will contact you for picture submission detail after processing your order) [+29]
FA_HDD: None
FAN: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo Gaming Cooling Fan [+4]
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_CU1: Intel GRID 2 Gaming Coupon [+0]
FREEBIE_MB: None
FREEBIE_VC2: None
GLASSES: None
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
HDD2: None
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: (Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Cooler Master Storm Devastator Gaming Keyboard & Mouse Combo [+0]
MB_SRT: 64GB SanDisk SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 490 MB/s Read & 240 MB/s Write [+76] (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory [+34] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] MSI Z87-G41 PC Mate Intel Z87 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Military Class 4, OC Genie II, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, HDMI, 2 Gen3 PCIe x16, 2x PCI-e & 2 PCI (Pro OC Certified)
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
NOISEREDUCE1: Sound Absorbing Foam on Side, Top And Bottom panels [+29]
NOISEREDUCE2: Power Supply Gasket [+5]
NOISEREDUCE3: Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts [+9]
OS: Microsoft® Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 600 Watts - Corsair CX600 600W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [+25]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: None
TABLET: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
TVRC: None
USB: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: AMD Radeon R9 280X 3GB GDDR5 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+258] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
VIDEO2: None
VIDEO3: None
WNC: None
_PRICE: (+1277)
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Edit: I also agree with the others, making it a project that you two learn to build the machine together would probably be cheaper and more fun. Plus, learning to build the machine means it will be easier in the future to get upgrades and design new machines since you and him would both know how to self-install/self-build.


No no no no no no no... stay very far away from Cyberpower. They use a lot of sub par components (like that garbage Raidmax case for instance), use a lot of mystery brand components, and overcharge for the ones they do use. Add in sub par technical support and you'll be chucking that machine in a year guaranteed. Build your own, it's relatively easy to do so and you'll get a system that will last for several years as opposed to one or two.
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^ exactly
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Processor:Intel Core i5 4430 @ 3.0GHz $189.99 @Newegg.com
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-B85-HD3 $89.99 @Newegg.com
Memory:G.Skill RipJaw X 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 2133 $74.99 @Newegg.com
Hard Drive:Western Digital Blue 1TB $69.99 @Newegg.com
Optical Drive:Lite-ON DVD Writer $17.99 @Newegg.com
Graphic Card:Evga GTX 760 2GB $249.99 @Newegg.com
Power Supply:Corsair TX650w $89.99 @Newegg.com
Case:NZXT Tempest 210 $39.99 @Newegg.com
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 8.1 Retail $119.99 @Newegg.com
$943.91
Shipping and tax not calculated.
For a 14 year old, a computer doesn't really need a unlock CPU, and a GPU that cost both arms and legs.
If he can play his games, then he will be extremely happy no matter if that system cost $500 or $5,000.





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November 4, 2013 10:12:17 AM

ssddx said:
^ exactly

Working with Microcenter's website I have come up with the following:
Processor and MOBO combo: i54670k, Gigabyte GA287x-UD4H Socket LGA 1150 ATX ~ $349.98
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB $94.99
Hard Drive: Samsung 840 EVO MZ-7TE120KW 120 GB SATA 6.0 2.5" $120
Hard Drive: Western Digital WD Black 1TB 7200 RPM $85
GPU: GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked $439
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming Series GS800 $85 after rebate
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX $89

Remaining questions:
Cooling?
Recommended DVD
Anything else or things you would change?

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November 4, 2013 10:13:07 AM

oh and operating system will be Windows 8
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November 4, 2013 10:13:55 AM

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No need for sound card. onboard is fine
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ksmith4370 said:
Currently the Radeons are on $700 off special when you customize through Cypberpower and iBuypower...so it was just a question. I did call the local Microcenter store and they will do a custom build with a tech charge of just $100 so depending on the deals I can get through them I may just do that. I am still nervous to do it myself and screw something up and don't have all the time in the world to study youtube etc...

Operating system will be Windows 8 as that is what my son's school uses and he has a tablet computer through school running Onenote etc...so he is used to using 8 even on a desktop which can be less than ideal.

Good suggestion to wait on Cyber Monday....
I am really appreciating everyone's input!


ksmith4370 said:
ssddx said:
^ exactly

Working with Microcenter's website I have come up with the following:
Processor and MOBO combo: i54670k, Gigabyte GA287x-UD4H Socket LGA 1150 ATX ~ $349.98
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB $94.99
Hard Drive: Samsung 840 EVO MZ-7TE120KW 120 GB SATA 6.0 2.5" $120
Hard Drive: Western Digital WD Black 1TB 7200 RPM $85
GPU: GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked $439
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming Series GS800 $85 after rebate
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX $89

Remaining questions:
Cooling?
Recommended DVD
Anything else or things you would change?



All looks good, except for 2 things.

One, you need an aftermarket CPU cooler since you are getting the unlocked processor. I recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO. Its only $30 and can handle mild overclocking.

Second, you might be overpaying a little bit for the memory. $95 for 8gb seems a little much to me. I'm sure that you can find cheaper.

Also the onboard audio should be sufficient unless your son is an audiophile and really likes music. And you can get any generic optical drive for DVDs. Should only be $15-$30.
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ksmith4370 said:
ssddx said:
^ exactly

Working with Microcenter's website I have come up with the following:
Processor and MOBO combo: i54670k, Gigabyte GA287x-UD4H Socket LGA 1150 ATX ~ $349.98
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB $94.99
Hard Drive: Samsung 840 EVO MZ-7TE120KW 120 GB SATA 6.0 2.5" $120
Hard Drive: Western Digital WD Black 1TB 7200 RPM $85
GPU: GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked $439
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming Series GS800 $85 after rebate
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX $89

Remaining questions:
Cooling?
Recommended DVD
Anything else or things you would change?



If you're going to pay that much for a rig - especially if gaming is the primary purpose - you should definitely overclock, and most motherboards will pretty much do it for you these days.

Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1339.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 14:12 EST-0500)

With the difference add whatever monitor or keyboard and mouse you want.
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November 4, 2013 11:15:27 AM

g-unit1111 said:
ksmith4370 said:
ssddx said:
^ exactly

Working with Microcenter's website I have come up with the following:
Processor and MOBO combo: i54670k, Gigabyte GA287x-UD4H Socket LGA 1150 ATX ~ $349.98
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB $94.99
Hard Drive: Samsung 840 EVO MZ-7TE120KW 120 GB SATA 6.0 2.5" $120
Hard Drive: Western Digital WD Black 1TB 7200 RPM $85
GPU: GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked $439
Power Supply: Corsair Gaming Series GS800 $85 after rebate
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer Mid Tower ATX $89

Remaining questions:
Cooling?
Recommended DVD
Anything else or things you would change?



If you're going to pay that much for a rig - especially if gaming is the primary purpose - you should definitely overclock, and most motherboards will pretty much do it for you these days.

Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($47.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($334.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($114.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1339.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 14:12 EST-0500)

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The CPU/Mobo combo that G-Unit has suggested is available at your local Microcenter.
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Hello.

Since you want to buy from microcenter I created a list from similar parts from microcenter.:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU and Mobo: 4th GEN CORE i5-4670K PROCESSOR BUNDLES ASUS Z87-A (SLI) LGA 1150 ATX 614826 ($319.98 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($519.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Keyboard: Gigabyte Force K3 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $1080.90 + 319.98 (CPU and mobo) = $1400.
+ Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM $99.99 = $1500
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 14:56 EST-0500)

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Memnarchon said:
Hello.

Since you want to buy from microcenter I created a list from similar parts from microcenter.:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU and Mobo: 4th GEN CORE i5-4670K PROCESSOR BUNDLES ASUS Z87-A (SLI) LGA 1150 ATX 614826 ($319.98 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($519.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Keyboard: Gigabyte Force K3 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $1080.90 + 319.98 (CPU and mobo) = $1400.
+ Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM $99.99 = $1500
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 14:56 EST-0500)

:) 


This is great! The only thing I would change is the GPU. 780 is good but MSI is no good. Stick with EVGA, Asus, or Gigabyte.
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November 4, 2013 2:10:05 PM

sacara21 said:
Memnarchon said:
Hello.

Since you want to buy from microcenter I created a list from similar parts from microcenter.:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU and Mobo: 4th GEN CORE i5-4670K PROCESSOR BUNDLES ASUS Z87-A (SLI) LGA 1150 ATX 614826 ($319.98 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($519.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: Antec GX700 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ Microcenter)
Keyboard: Gigabyte Force K3 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($29.99 @ Microcenter)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse ($59.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $1080.90 + 319.98 (CPU and mobo) = $1400.
+ Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit OEM $99.99 = $1500
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-04 14:56 EST-0500)

:) 


This is great! The only thing I would change is the GPU. 780 is good but MSI is no good. Stick with EVGA, Asus, or Gigabyte.


You forgot Galaxy and Sapphire (for AMD)
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November 4, 2013 2:28:48 PM

i agree... go with evga instead of msi.

i'd go with corsair ram instead... similar prices but i trust them better.

i'd get a caviar blue not a black (the warranty if you read a prior post)

the psu will work but i'd suggest the HX lineup instead of the rm.
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November 4, 2013 2:37:16 PM

sacara21 said:
780 is good but MSI is no good. Stick with EVGA, Asus, or Gigabyte.


This is not true.
MSI is the among the best (if not the best) when it comes to GPUs. (MSI Graphics Card Honored with 2013 CES Innovation Award)
EVGA has worse cooler:
EVGA 63C vs MSI 60C
While noise is also greater:
EVGA 40dB vs MSI 38dB.
I can even link the coolers from the others also like ASUS or Gigabyte, but MSI is better atm.
You can find a good review of MSI 780 Gaming here and here.

edit: And guys, before you suggest the EVGA, apart that hasn't got better card than MSI, you should check their prices at Microcenter.
All EVGAs 780 prices are still sky rocketed.

edit2: I don't know about the HX series if they fit to this case because they are bigger than other Corsair's PSUs.

edit3: I also love the corsair ram (you can see the 2x8GB 2133 Vengeance Pro at my rig) but at the same speed Corsair's memory is costing too much to discuss about trust on a product that has lifetime warranty...

Also about the HDD, the blue ones are the previous model blacks. Even after some benchmarks at Xbit labs about the 1-1,5TB HDDs show that blue has nothing to be jealus of black at performance for the 1TB models. The only difference is the warranty. Is it worth the difference? I have a 7y old blue on a rig behind me... And after 17 years ιn PC industry I never had any problems with Western Digital HDDs...
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November 4, 2013 2:59:50 PM

sacara21 said:
The CPU/Mobo combo that G-Unit has suggested is available at your local Microcenter.


Micro Center is not the only store you can buy PC parts from, and if you don't have a local one handy then you're SOL.
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November 4, 2013 3:11:35 PM

g-unit1111 said:
sacara21 said:
The CPU/Mobo combo that G-Unit has suggested is available at your local Microcenter.


Micro Center is not the only store you can buy PC parts from, and if you don't have a local one handy then you're SOL.


Obviously... but if you read the previous posts, OP said she was near one and wanted to use that store.
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